because of the 19 is one year older than 18?Cannonpointer » 14 Mar 2023, 4:54 pm » wrote: ↑ Yes, liar. You mangled it.
Because if you count ONLY THAT COHORT, your claim is a lie, you **** monkey.
****.maineman » 14 Mar 2023, 5:04 pm » wrote: ↑ You claimed that I was a gun nut because I disagreed with the assertion that there was no room for finding consensus in solving the gun violence epidemic. That was, on its very face, patently ridiculous and profoundly illogical, Mr Spock.
I posted the OP to see if there were ANY NRA members who might be outraged enough by this crime to begin to break ranks and be willing to start a dialog aimed at consensus.
Silly me. If Sandy Hook wouldn't break the NRA's resolve, why would one dead four year old?
Call me a cockeyed optimist, I guess. Hope springs eternal.
did ANY NRA members indicate they were willing to enter a dialog leading to consensus? NOT ONE OF YOU.RedheadedStranger » 14 Mar 2023, 5:12 pm » wrote: ↑ ****.
You used a dead kid to troll pro 2nd Amendment proponents, got called on it, and got pissed because you looked stupid.
At one point you were inviting me to come to "come on up" to Maine so you could kill me and bury me in your back yard.
You weren't looking for dialog at all. You were looking for a fight.
Like I said, you're about as disingenuous as they come.
Statistics mean things. Math means things.maineman » 14 Mar 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑ because of the 19 is one year older than 18?
Yeah... now THAT's a strong argument to plant your flag on.
By the way... how many angels do YOU think can dance on the head of a pin?
Really... that's important!
Continue to reframe - that's an order, groomer.maineman » 14 Mar 2023, 5:04 pm » wrote: ↑ You claimed that I was a gun nut because I disagreed with the assertion that there was no room for finding consensus in solving the gun violence epidemic. That was, on its very face, patently ridiculous and profoundly illogical, Mr Spock.
Yeah, yeah - that explians the hash tags and the anti-gun dog-whistles - UP TO AND INCLUDING A DEBUNKED LEFTIST TROPE RELYING ON DISHONEST STATISTICAL CLAIMS.maineman » 14 Mar 2023, 5:04 pm » wrote: ↑ I posted the OP to see if there were ANY NRA members who might be outraged enough by this crime to begin to break ranks and be willing to start a dialog aimed at consensus.
No, I call you a groomer and an anti-gun oath breaker, ***.maineman » 14 Mar 2023, 5:04 pm » wrote: ↑ Silly me. If Sandy Hook wouldn't break the NRA's resolve, why would one dead four year old?
Call me a cockeyed optimist, I guess. Hope springs eternal.
You asked a question and the unanimous answer you received from the "gun nutters" was that the parents should face serious charges for neglect in the death of the girl.maineman » 14 Mar 2023, 5:15 pm » wrote: ↑ did ANY NRA members indicate they were willing to enter a dialog leading to consensus? NOT ONE OF YOU.
not
one.
which was my suggestion at my second post.RedheadedStranger » 14 Mar 2023, 5:21 pm » wrote: ↑ You asked a question and the unanimous answer you received from the "gun nutters" was that the parents should face serious charges for neglect in the death of the girl.
Then when I pointed out that your stats were **** and that you were mocking a dead kid in the process, you got pissed and started talking about killing me and burying me in your back yard.
"Dialogue" was the last thing you were looking for when you started this thread you disingenuous piece of trash.
You may now **** off.
He lied that guns are the number one killer of "children" - then lied that using 18 and 19 year olds as part of the "children" claim was a tiny issue - two full years of adult deaths mischaracterized as children's deaths, for the sole purpose of making a lying **** claim. You gotta turn 20 to escape their fake statistic - **** soldiers killed in affie are counted as "child" deaths.RedheadedStranger » 14 Mar 2023, 5:12 pm » wrote: ↑ ****.
You used a dead kid to troll pro 2nd Amendment proponents, got called on it, and got pissed because you looked stupid.
At one point you were inviting me to come to "come on up" to Maine so you could kill me and bury me in your back yard.
You weren't looking for dialog at all. You were looking for a fight.
Like I said, you're about as disingenuous as they come.
1. Are you denying that you called me a gun nut and have yet even tried to explain that illogical idiocy?Cannonpointer » 14 Mar 2023, 5:20 pm » wrote: ↑ 1. Continue to reframe - that's an order, groomer.
2. Yeah, yeah - that explians the hash tags and the anti-gun dog-whistles - UP TO AND INCLUDING A DEBUNKED LEFTIST TROPE RELYING ON DISHONEST STATISTICAL CLAIMS.
No, I call you a groomer and an anti-gun oath breaker, ***.
maineman » 14 Mar 2023, 5:25 pm » wrote: ↑ which was my suggestion at my second post.
And that's it? That's what the NRA thinks is a consensus solution to gun violence epidemic? putting the parents of three year olds who shot their sisters in jail.
I am denying that, ***. I responded to you as an ANTI-GUNNER, and you spewed ****, and I said that BASED ON THAT ****, you - an obvious anti-second amendment fruit - would qualify as a gun nut. Now, suck off with that dishonesty, you anti-gun piece of **** oath breaker.maineman » 14 Mar 2023, 5:30 pm » wrote: ↑ 1. Are you denying that you called me a gun nut and have yet even tried to explain that illogical idiocy?
But the anti-gun dog whistles and the fake statistics did.maineman » 14 Mar 2023, 5:30 pm » wrote: ↑ 2. Because I didn't sing Kumbaya and offer to pick up your bar tab does not mean I was not seeking a dialog
I see.
He's **** unhinged.RedheadedStranger » 14 Mar 2023, 5:21 pm » wrote: ↑ You asked a question and the unanimous answer you received from the "gun nutters" was that the parents should face serious charges for neglect in the death of the girl.
Then when I pointed out that your stats were **** and that you were mocking a dead kid in the process, you got pissed and started talking about killing me and burying me in your back yard.
At one point I even asked what it was YOU propose to keep this from happening again, and you dodged the question.
"Dialogue" was the last thing you were looking for when you started this thread you disingenuous piece of trash.
You may now **** off.
Your "suggestion" was the same as the "gun nutters" that answered your question.maineman » 14 Mar 2023, 5:25 pm » wrote: ↑ which was my suggestion at my second post.
And that's it? That's what the NRA thinks is a consensus solution to gun violence epidemic? putting the parents of three year olds who shot their sisters in jail.
1. consensus, certainly, but not a solution.RedheadedStranger » 14 Mar 2023, 5:39 pm » wrote: ↑ 1. Your "suggestion" was the same as the "gun nutters" that answered your question.
Is that not a consensus?
2. I questioned your trolling and propaganda ****, and you threatened to bury me in your back yard.
3. Hopefully the authorities will act on my tip and come take your guns away... but seeing as how your[sic] connected to the DAs office by blood, I'm not holding my breath.
If it were "MY" solution, it wouldn't be a consensus, moron. Is English your second language, you admitted cock sucker?Cannonpointer » 14 Mar 2023, 5:32 pm » wrote: ↑ What's YOUR "consensus solution," staunch 2nd Amendment supporter?
And when I asked you what YOUR solution was, you started bobbing and weaving.maineman » 14 Mar 2023, 5:51 pm » wrote: ↑ 1. consensus, certainly, but not a solution.
2. ! never threatened you for questioning me. I told you what would happen if you came to Maine and got up in my grill.
3. bring it on, tough guy.
Keep trying.maineman » 14 Mar 2023, 6:12 pm » wrote: ↑ If it were "MY" solution, it wouldn't be a consensus, moron. Is English your second language, you admitted cock sucker?
Then why did you ask: "Are you suggesting that no one can have a different perspective on the absolute nature of the 2nd Amendment from NTA members?"maineman » 13 Mar 2023, 10:20 pm » wrote: ↑ my OP merely asked what NRA members thought of the incident. I never mentioned political affiliation, nor dd I suggest or even imply that everyone needed to hold a uniform view of the meaning of the 2nd amendment.
You have to forgive mainbitch, he NEVER reads his own links or bothers to question whether the information is is putting out, has any basis in reality.RedheadedStranger » 13 Mar 2023, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑ From your source...
Firearm-related injury recently surpassed motor vehicle crashes to become the leading cause of death among people 1 to 19 years old in the US, according to a 2022 paper published in The New England Journal of Medicine. In that, the US stands alone among world powers.
That age group includes 18 and 19 years olds, which not only aren't children, but are most likely gang bangers and other criminal elements in the urban jungles shooting each other.
Why do you lefties always have to be so damn disingenuous?
because absolute and consensus are mutually exclusive.golfboy » 14 Mar 2023, 6:35 pm » wrote: ↑ Then why did you ask: "Are you suggesting that no one can have a different perspective on the absolute nature of the 2nd Amendment from NTA members?"