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Cannonpointer » 14 Mar 2023, 11:13 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2023, 11:13 pm

Do they, though?

This government does not have the consent of the governed. It governs by force or not at all.

Of course they vary.
Some say work through the system. Vote. Change and add laws, regulations.
Some say blow it all up. (I guess we rebuild while our enemies "help".)  
Some like things just as they are. Biden is not senile. Everything MSM says is true.

In the midst of that stew of opinion, I wonder if the Great American Experiment has plateaued.
We are all standing in the middle of a directionless flat wondering which featureless horizon is best.
 

Cannonpointer » 14 Mar 2023, 11:12 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2023, 11:12 pm

You do not have that right, dick sucker.

He is another pretender.
Thinks he's "deep" but cherrypicks a single element looking for a gotcha!
Cherrypicking is fine but expecting that to save a narrative is usually weak.

maineman » 15 Mar 2023, 8:03 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 8:03 am

^^^ from the guy who admittedly sucks men's cocks.

funny stuff.

Explain how my sexual habits have anything to do with you getting caught lying, penis cheeks. 

Any more deflections? Or is it time to deal with getting caught lying, flipper?
 
 
 

maineman » 15 Mar 2023, 8:06 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 8:06 am

I love Maine and I love my guns... why would I ever move?

Stop ****** bleeding then, busted out liar - and man up to your lie.

Was that a bad stat you believed - because your a gulled, ****-fed left-tard?

Or were you lying on purpose, groomer?
 
 

Cannonpointer » 15 Mar 2023, 10:29 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 10:29 am

Explain how my sexual habits have anything to do with you getting caught lying, penis cheeks. 

Any more deflections? Or is it time to deal with getting caught lying, flipper?
 
 
 

Defending what you learned to ancestrally follow after birth following family history believing life is more than just adapting to the moment here possible after birth isn't lying, it is denying living as equally timed apart now.

Every social narrative demands unconditional surrender of instinctive awareness to gain citizenship as a collective we say so and let no one stand in the way of progression of ancestral changes being trained to ignore common since conceived cradle to grave until extinction arrives.

Grooming and nurturing are the same outcomes in every society imagined into rule of law fruition. Doesn't matter what the common language barrier was..

DeezerShoove » 15 Mar 2023, 9:58 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 9:58 am

He is another pretender.
Thinks he's "deep" but cherrypicks a single element looking for a gotcha!
Cherrypicking is fine but expecting that to save a narrative is usually weak.

Yup. He really **** the bed with this thread - celebrating a child's death too obviously to step back from, using a complete ****-statistic manufactured for retards, threatening death-by-gun to people then bemoaning how complacent we all are to gun-violence. This thread is his biggest fail - one long, amber heard bed-****. And it revealed the groomer for what he really stands for.

It also showed me that he has NO COMPUNCTION pretending to believe one thing while peddling another. His thin claims of non-groomerdom evaporated with his panty dance through this little stink-garden. "Oh, I'm not a groomer." "Oh, I'm not AGAINST the second amendment. I'm STAUNCHLY pro-second amendment - just lookin' fer some dickalog on the subject. Ha ha, dead baby." 
 

Nostradamus'omh » 15 Mar 2023, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 10:34 am

Defending what you learned to ancestrally follow after birth following family history believing life is more than just adapting to the moment here possible after birth isn't lying, it is denying living as equally timed apart now.

Every social narrative demands unconditional surrender of instinctive awareness to gain citizenship as a collective we say so and let no one stand in the way of progression of ancestral changes being trained to ignore common since conceived cradle to grave until extinction arrives.

Grooming and nurturing are the same outcomes in every society imagined into rule of law fruition. Doesn't matter what the common language barrier was..

Explain how my sexual habits have anything to do with him getting caught lying. 

Any more deflections? Or is it time to deal with his getting caught lying?
 
 

Cannonpointer » 15 Mar 2023, 10:43 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 10:43 am

Yup. He really **** the bed with this thread - celebrating a child's death too obviously to step back from, using a complete ****-statistic manufactured for retards, threatening death-by-gun to people then bemoaning how complacent we all are to gun-violence. This thread is his biggest fail - one long, amber heard bed-****. And it revealed the groomer for what he really stands for.

It also showed me that he has NO COMPUNCTION pretending to believe one thing while peddling another. His thin claims of non-groomerdom evaporated with his panty dance through this little stink-garden. "Oh, I'm not a groomer." "Oh, I'm not AGAINST the second amendment. I'm STAUNCHLY pro-second amendment - just lookin' fer some dickalog on the subject. Ha ha, dead baby."

Some agenda-driven asswipes don't see the almost gleeful excitement they portray.
Crocodile tears with that smirk . . .  Gotcha now!

That **** comparison     She will never live her Depp Abuse down. DADS.

And that "I own three guns" crap from maineman. My parents died. So there! Top that.  
Progs think that harboring the most evil tool in the universe makes them qualified to opine for all others.
My parent did die. Cancer. Stroke/heart attack.
I am a goddamned expert on aging, health, terminal diseases, funerals, wills, grieving families, etc.
You name it. I know it.
-or-
My folks died. It's personal.

btw
I heard your dad died recently.
 

Cannonpointer » 15 Mar 2023, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 10:30 am

Stop ****** bleeding then, busted out liar - and man up to your lie.

Was that a bad stat you believed - because your a gulled, ****-fed left-tard?

Or were you lying on purpose, groomer?

bad stat?  Because it included 19 year olds instead of stopping at 18?

My bad.  Extrapolate if you'd like... if not, who gives a ****.  The point is that guns kill a lot of children and the gun nuts don't really give a ****.  They offer an abundance of thoughts and prayers and precious few solutions.... dick sucker.

DeezerShoove » 15 Mar 2023, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 10:58 am

Some agenda-driven asswipes don't see the almost gleeful excitement they portray.
Crocodile tears with that smirk . . .  Gotcha now!

That **** comparison     She will never live her Depp Abuse down. DADS.

And that "I own three guns" crap from maineman. My parents died. So there! Top that.  
Progs think that harboring the most evil tool in the universe makes them qualified to opine for all others.
My parent did die. Cancer. Stroke/heart attack.
I am a goddamned expert on aging, health, terminal diseases, funerals, wills, grieving families, etc.
You name it. I know it.
-or-
My folks died. It's personal.

btw
I heard your dad died recently.

From a hand gun.

I was on the lines THAT SAME DAY trolling the parents of sandy hook.
 

Cannonpointer » 15 Mar 2023, 10:29 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 10:29 am

Explain how my sexual habits have anything to do with you getting caught lying, penis cheeks. 

Any more deflections? Or is it time to deal with getting caught lying, flipper?

I didn't lie, suck mouth.

you understand that lying requires intent, don't you?  I had no intention of deceiving anyone.

maineman » 15 Mar 2023, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 11:10 am

bad stat?  Because it included 19 year olds instead of stopping at 18?

No, queer.

Because it included 18 years olds as children. Because it included 19 year olds as children.

It's a fake statistic, ***. It uses two FULL years of adulthood in order to tell a lie about the guns you want to ban.

Contnue, **** mouth.

maineman » 15 Mar 2023, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 11:10 am

My bad.

Yes, it was - but you keep pretending I am the one at fault, you weak little dick sucker.

maineman » 15 Mar 2023, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 11:10 am

Extrapolate if you'd like... if not, who gives a ****.

Everyone you lied to in furtherance of your anti-gun agenda gives a ****, oath breaker.

maineman » 15 Mar 2023, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 11:10 am

The point is that guns kill a lot

And here we go from "Number one killer of children" to "a lot." Get the dick out of your mouth, groomer.

And stop doing victory dances over dead babies, fruitcake.
 

maineman » 15 Mar 2023, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 11:11 am

I didn't lie, suck mouth.

you understand that lying requires intent, don't you?

No, queer, it doesn't.

If you cite a falsehood, get corrected, then spend the next ten posts panty dancing and trying to deflect blame to the person who corrected you, that makes you a lying piece of ****.

maineman » 15 Mar 2023, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 11:11 am

I had no intention of deceiving anyone.

So you ADMIT that your handlers set you up for humiliation, feeding you false intel, and you fell for it.

Then you came out doing a victory dance on the grave of a baby.

You lying piece of **** - its too **** late to own up. You spent the last ten posts trying to deflect blame onto ME, you weak piece of grooming ****.
 

maineman » 15 Mar 2023, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 11:10 am

bad stat?  Because it included 19 year olds instead of stopping at 18?

My bad.  Extrapolate if you'd like... if not, who gives a ****.  The point is that guns kill a lot of children and the gun nuts don't really give a ****.  They offer an abundance of thoughts and prayers and precious few solutions.... dick sucker.

And I've asked you several times now what YOUR solution is Mr "I Just Want Dialogue"... and you keep dodging the question.

What law or action would you propose to prevent stupid people from being stupid?

Those idiots responsible for leaving a loaded weapon out where their toddler could get it could have just as easily left their four year locked in a hot car as well.

How do YOU propose we fix that?

You keep saying that no one is offering solutions, when you don't have any to offer yourself.

 
 

How do YOU propose we fix that?

There is no real way to fix this, the kid is dead and cannot be resurrected.

You keep saying that no one is offering solutions, when you don't have any to offer yourself.
There are no solutions.  Throwing the parents in jail would serve to make examples of them, but they have other children, and to lock up one or both parents would certainly harm their remaining children.
If they were billionaires, you could fine them millions
 

Xavier_Onassis » 15 Mar 2023, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 11:28 am

How do YOU propose we fix that?

There is no real way to fix this, the kid is dead and cannot be resurrected.

You keep saying that no one is offering solutions, when you don't have any to offer yourself.
There are no solutions.  Throwing the parents in jail would serve to make examples of them, but they have other children, and to lock up one or both parents would certainly harm their remaining children.
If they were billionaires, you could fine them millions

Was I asking you **** stick?
 

RedheadedStranger » 15 Mar 2023, 11:19 am » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 11:19 am

And I've asked you several times now what YOUR solution is Mr "I Just Want Dialogue"... and you keep dodging the question.

What law or action would you propose to prevent stupid people from being stupid?

Those idiots responsible for leaving a loaded weapon out where their toddler could get it could have just as easily left their four year locked in a hot car as well.

How do YOU propose we fix that?

You keep saying that no one is offering solutions, when you don't have any to offer yourself.

how to keep guns out of the hands of people who would use as an offensive weapon in social situations?  Universal background checks, waiting periods, mandatory gun safety classes, red flag laws, outlawing full auto weapons altogether, outlawing high capacity magazines, age limits for owning certain types of firearms.... there have been lots of ideas floated by folks who would like to see gun violence reduced by what they consider to be common sense gun laws.  The gun nuts want to claim that "shall not be infringed" is some sacrosanct line in the sand, but has already been crossed, hasn't it?    We can't own shoulder fired stinger missiles, I don't believe.  Sawed off shotguns ae illegal, aren't they?

maineman » 15 Mar 2023, 12:12 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 12:12 pm

how to keep guns out of the hands of people who would use as an offensive weapon in social situations?  Universal background checks, waiting periods, mandatory gun safety classes, red flag laws, outlawing full auto weapons altogether, outlawing high capacity magazines, age limits for owning certain types of firearms.... there have been lots of ideas floated by folks who would like to see gun violence reduced by what they consider to be common sense gun laws.  The gun nuts want to claim that "shall not be infringed" is some sacrosanct line in the sand, but has already been crossed, hasn't it?    We can't own shoulder fired stinger missiles, I don't believe.  Sawed off shotguns ae illegal, aren't they?

Which regulation out of the list you just cited would have prevented those idiots from leaving a loaded firearm out where the kid could get their hands on it?

Because I didn't see anything that would have prevented them from having it in the first place.
 

RedheadedStranger » 15 Mar 2023, 12:17 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 12:17 pm

Which regulation out of the list you just cited would have prevented those idiots from leaving a loaded firearm out where the kid could get their hands on it?

Because I didn't see anything that would have prevented them from having it in the first place.

not knowing the mental state of the parents, I cannot say whether they would have been banned from gun ownership by some possible red flag law.  Also... mandatory gun safety courses might have taught them to be more careful with their loaded fire arms

maineman » 15 Mar 2023, 12:23 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2023, 12:23 pm

not knowing the mental state of the parents, I cannot say whether they would have been banned from gun ownership by some possible red flag law.  Also... mandatory gun safety courses might have taught them to be more careful with their loaded fire arms

I agree that mandatory safety classes should be a thing. I'll go a step farther and say that firearm safety should be a required subject in order to graduate from high school.

Even with that, you still can't say that mandatory safety course would have prevented the tragedy you reported in your OP. Neither would mental evaluations or red flag laws.

Accidents are going to happen, regardless. Stupid people are gonna stupid, no matter the law.

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