Nikki Haley and Mike Pence want to cut Social Security

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By Xavier_Onassis
14 Mar 2023 12:27 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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jerrab » 14 Mar 2023, 5:15 pm » wrote: right now anything over 169,000 is not taxed for social security.

lifting the cap would allow incomes over 169,000 to be taxed.

the cap could be reset  at 250,000.
Would that be a magic bullet, and do you support it?

Would other adjustments still need to be made?
 
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Xavier_Onassis » 14 Mar 2023, 6:03 pm » wrote: What Republicans would refuse to sign a SS cut passed by the GOP, tell us.
One who wants to be re-elected.

But it's a silly question, since the senate is controlled by democrats.
Xavier_Onassis » 14 Mar 2023, 6:03 pm » wrote: I do not think you can say that it is a lie, if he is referring to potential GOP candidates.
You certainly cannot call it the truth - especially while ducking my questions pertinent to the OP.
 
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14 Mar 2023 6:11 pm
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I would favor resetting the cap to $300K.

Remember: 10% of the people own 90% of the wealth in the US.
The other 90% of us have only the remaining 10%.
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14 Mar 2023 6:18 pm
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My main point is that neither Haley nor Pence can wage much of a campaign without tapping into some billionaire's fortune.
The only two people who might be able to finance a campaign now are Trump and Romney.
Trump does not want to spend any of his own money. I am not sure of Romney.'There could be others, but I don't know know they might be.
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14 Mar 2023 6:30 pm
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Cannonpointer » 14 Mar 2023, 6:05 pm » wrote: Would that be a magic bullet, and do you support it?

Would other adjustments still need to be made?
I support it. and it could be lifted to 200,000 and at 4 per cent instead of 6 per cent from 200,000- 250,000.

but it should be done within the next 3-5 years.
 
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jerrab » 14 Mar 2023, 6:30 pm » wrote: I support it. and it could be lifted to 200,000 and at 4 per cent instead of 6 per cent from 200,000- 250,000.

but it should be done within the next 3-5 years.
There IS the spectre of thee wealthy subsiding out the less so - and you're good with that? They won't be - but there are less of them, and they're equally nobodies with the rest of us, so they'll just have to take it. 

Are there any other measures that you would support? Like raising the age at which folks retire, for example? Or means testing, and **** the most well to do out of some or all of their benefits? 
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Cannonpointer » 14 Mar 2023, 7:13 pm » wrote: There IS the spectre of thee wealthy subsiding out the less so - and you're good with that? They won't be - but there are less of them, and they're equally nobodies with the rest of us, so they'll just have to take it. 

Are there any other measures that you would support? Like raising the age at which folks retire, for example? Or means testing, and **** the most well to do out of some or all of their benefits?
no, I don't support raising the retirement age or lowering benefits. 
 
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Cannonpointer » 14 Mar 2023, 7:13 pm » wrote: There IS the spectre of thee wealthy subsiding out the less so - and you're good with that? They won't be - but there are less of them, and they're equally nobodies with the rest of us, so they'll just have to take it. 

Are there any other measures that you would support? Like raising the age at which folks retire, for example? Or means testing, and **** the most well to do out of some or all of their benefits?

as far I know haley's plan would reduce everyone's benefits. but the very rich would find a way to fight it. there will be a clause because she wants big donors.
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jerrab » 14 Mar 2023, 7:57 pm » wrote: no, I don't support raising the retirement age or lowering benefits.
Not even means testing?
 
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Xavier_Onassis » 14 Mar 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: They have both announced that the retirement age should be raised and the payouts should be reduced.
Both of them are at the stage where they need to hit up their wealthy GOP contributors for the Big Bucks, and of course, the one thing that their fatcat buddies want to avoid is paying more into Social Security and Medicaid. Mitch is sitting on tons of money and not up the reelection. Trump also has a lot of funds, but Haley and Pence are not funded and have to convince the rich pals to contribute.
Joe Biden co-sponsored a bill to increase Socialist Security retirement age. 
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Biden co-sponsored a bill in 1984 a plan that included freezing the Social Security cost-of-living adjustment for that year and proposed in 1996 raising the retirement age by one year to 68, according to CNN.
It's always different when liberals do it. 
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Cannonpointer » 14 Mar 2023, 8:04 pm » wrote: Not even means testing?
it is not my main focus, however if someone decides that someone making 50 billion dollars a year should not get social security it would not break my heart- however they should be able to keep medicare.
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Xavier_Onassis » 14 Mar 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: They have both announced that the retirement age should be raised and the payouts should be reduced.
Both of them are at the stage where they need to hit up their wealthy GOP contributors for the Big Bucks, and of course, the one thing that their fatcat buddies want to avoid is paying more into Social Security and Medicaid. Mitch is sitting on tons of money and not up the reelection. Trump also has a lot of funds, but Haley and Pence are not funded and have to convince the rich pals to contribute.
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Trumprules » 14 Mar 2023, 5:30 pm » wrote: Did I cut  too close to the bone bitch?
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Xavier_Onassis » 14 Mar 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: They have both announced that the retirement age should be raised and the payouts should be reduced.
Both of them are at the stage where they need to hit up their wealthy GOP contributors for the Big Bucks, and of course, the one thing that their fatcat buddies want to avoid is paying more into Social Security and Medicaid. Mitch is sitting on tons of money and not up the reelection. Trump also has a lot of funds, but Haley and Pence are not funded and have to convince the rich pals to contribute.
mandatory at age 55. allowing the young usa people to have jobs. sit on your butt jobs allow people to work until they die. construction jobs are done by machine. mandatory retirement at 55 would require citizen to learn how to manage their money. have home paid off by 55. no debts at 55. and good net worth (less dwelling). millions have done it. for those who do not take charge of their lives. open up poverty camps. hose them off once a week and dump food garbage in their poverty camp for them to dig thru.
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Xavier_Onassis » 14 Mar 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: They have both announced that the retirement age should be raised and the payouts should be reduced.
Both of them are at the stage where they need to hit up their wealthy GOP contributors for the Big Bucks, and of course, the one thing that their fatcat buddies want to avoid is paying more into Social Security and Medicaid. Mitch is sitting on tons of money and not up the reelection. Trump also has a lot of funds, but Haley and Pence are not funded and have to convince the rich pals to contribute.
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RebelGator » 14 Mar 2023, 5:43 pm » wrote: Is the Mrs......a female?

Never can tell with you folks.

20 years in a monogamous heterosexual relationship... if we are going to use labels.
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golfboy » 14 Mar 2023, 8:09 pm » wrote: Joe Biden co-sponsored a bill to increase Socialist Security retirement age. 
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It's always different when liberals do it.
That does it.

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PastorBlast » 15 Mar 2023, 3:42 pm » wrote: 20 years in a monogamous heterosexual relationship... if we are going to use labels.
Heaven FOREFEND that any labels be used, fruitcake.

We know how much you leftists eschew grouping people together! :faint:  
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

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When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

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Cannonpointer » 15 Mar 2023, 4:04 pm » wrote: Heaven FOREFEND that any labels be used, fruitcake.

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