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EDC4ALL! » 22 Mar 2023, 10:29 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2023, 10:29 am

No. Actually I think that you need to raise the retirement age for people that are under 38, to 68 or 69. Millennials are now the largest age group. They need to pay more in. The Gen Z'ers need to pay a couple MORE %, than the Millennials. They are smaller in number, but will be in the work force the longest. I'm not an actuary so I don't know the exact numbers, but it really dosen't matter, because if MORE money doesn't come from these age groups, then it will fail. I would also add a provision that people could invest some of that money (It's theirs after all). Let's say a 25%/75% split. A Gen Zer investing 25% of that tax money in something other than the government won't NEED S.S. once they retire. There isn't enough tax money from the rich (you could take all their money and it wouldn't be enough) to stabilize S.S. , pay for Medicare for All, Green New ****, Free Education, Black Slavery Handouts, studies on Australian Wombats sexual habits while on peyote buttons.........

Noting about us beloved Gen Xers here. We are always being ignored. That's a good thing. We tend to hate people, so stay away from us. I am good with that. 

EDC4ALL! » 22 Mar 2023, 10:29 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2023, 10:29 am

No. Actually I think that you need to raise the retirement age for people that are under 38, to 68 or 69. Millennials are now the largest age group. They need to pay more in. The Gen Z'ers need to pay a couple MORE %, than the Millennials. They are smaller in number, but will be in the work force the longest. I'm not an actuary so I don't know the exact numbers, but it really dosen't matter, because if MORE money doesn't come from these age groups, then it will fail. I would also add a provision that people could invest some of that money (It's theirs after all). Let's say a 25%/75% split. A Gen Zer investing 25% of that tax money in something other than the government won't NEED S.S. once they retire. There isn't enough tax money from the rich (you could take all their money and it wouldn't be enough) to stabilize S.S. , pay for Medicare for All, Green New ****, Free Education, Black Slavery Handouts, studies on Australian Wombats sexual habits while on peyote buttons.........

Oh, heck. We don't need a penny from the rich. Just pass on one war of choice, and don't let them steal our votes for pedophiles anymore. 
 
 

Vegas » 22 Mar 2023, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2023, 10:40 am

Noting about us beloved Gen Xers here. We are always being ignored. That's a good thing. We tend to hate people, so stay away from us. I am good with that.

Nope, no Boomers either. Why? Because we already paid into the system for years, and planned retirement based on the present system. But now that I think of it...maybe a small increase in what Gen X pays......................................................................  

Cannonpointer » 22 Mar 2023, 1:25 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2023, 1:25 am

People who paid social are entitled to social - that's pretty basic contract law. 

You're on the verge of having F. Lee Failey give you an education in juris, Prudence. 

The thing is, I run into 18 year olds all the time getting SSDI and full Medicare benefits who've never paid a dime into the system.

How can this be?

YES ,  CUT SOCIAL SECURITY. no one who earns over $120,000.00 a year gets a dime. every one who makes under $120,000.00 a year gets an equal amount of $2,400.00 a month. whether they worked or not. cry warren butthole cry.

walkingstick » 23 Mar 2023, 12:59 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 12:59 am

YES ,  CUT SOCIAL SECURITY. no one who earns over $120,000.00 a year gets a dime. every one who makes under $120,000.00 a year gets an equal amount of $2,400.00 a month. whether they worked or not. cry warren butthole cry.

Systematic abuse of intellectual systems of denying life in real time has deep rooted consequences when everyone plays nobody knew how life evolves in plain sight.

Honesty is lost by the 6th generation never accepting life in real time.

Xavier_Onassis » 14 Mar 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2023, 12:27 pm

They have both announced that the retirement age should be raised and the payouts should be reduced.
Both of them are at the stage where they need to hit up their wealthy GOP contributors for the Big Bucks, and of course, the one thing that their fatcat buddies want to avoid is paying more into Social Security and Medicaid. Mitch is sitting on tons of money and not up the reelection. Trump also has a lot of funds, but Haley and Pence are not funded and have to convince the rich pals to contribute.

So they have openly stated that they have no intention of winning the election? Not a smart move to say the least.

Punch » 23 Mar 2023, 6:33 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 6:33 am

So they have openly stated that they have no intention of winning the election? Not a smart move to say the least.

I could not find any thing about pence but haley definitely wants to raise the retirement age and yes she has no hope to win.

Str8tEdge » 22 Mar 2023, 11:43 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2023, 11:43 pm

The thing is, I run into 18 year olds all the time getting SSDI and full Medicare benefits who've never paid a dime into the system.

How can this be?

Our politicians are deeply committed to destroying social security and the post office. 

In the past, it was the bathroomers against the demonrats - and then the demonrats became bathroomers. 

WORSE bathroomers than the bathroomers.
 
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Mar 2023, 10:32 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 10:32 am

Our politicians are deeply committed to destroying social security and the post office. 

In the past, it was the bathroomers against the demonrats - and then the demonrats became bathroomers. 

WORSE bathroomers than the bathroomers.

So do nothing, and BOTH Social Security and the Post Office will destroy themselves.

It's really THAT simple. SS is nothing but a "legal" ponzi scheme and it was destined to go broke from the outset. And the Post office has nothing but crankers that do so little that there needs to be a "can you fog a mirror" check hourly just so they can see if they need to call the coroner for pickup.

You may not LIKE the need for reforms, but the end result is inevitable if NOTHING is done.

Beekeeper » 23 Mar 2023, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 10:39 am

So do nothing, and BOTH Social Security and the Post Office will destroy themselves.

It's really THAT simple. SS is nothing but a "legal" ponzi scheme and it was destined to go broke from the outset.

It's taking it's sweet **** time. Retarded people have been shrieking that for 88 years. It's currently withstanding the boomer onslaught.

But I will grant you, if they can hypnotize enough retards, they can make it "go broke."

Beekeeper » 23 Mar 2023, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 10:39 am

And the Post office has nothing but crankers that do so little that there needs to be a "can you fog a mirror" check hourly just so they can see if they need to call the coroner for pickup.

The post office will take a letter from Anchorage to Albequerque for 65 cents. A lot of homosexuals prefer to pay 15 dollars.

Where do you stand?

Beekeeper » 23 Mar 2023, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 10:39 am

You may not LIKE the need for reforms, but the end result is inevitable if NOTHING is done.

The "reforms" for the post office are simple: Let them charge a few more cents per letter - stop keeping them JUST under profitable in order to float the fiction that they are "failing" and have to be "rescued." Or even just stop making them fund their retirement differently and more rigidly than every other company in the country. Better still, both.

In other words, stop trying to destroy the post office in order to part out the people's property and give it to wall street, kleptocracy-style.

The reforms to SS may not be necessary. In case you're new to this country - and this planet, - there is a major die off in progress. All cause mortality in people 18-49 is up 40%. Based on the above out-of-house narrative, I suspect your brain is not big enough to understand the enormity of that, so I will explain it to you. A lot of mother **** that were going to be drawing social are not going to be drawing social.

Cannonpointer » 23 Mar 2023, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 10:58 am

A lot of mother **** that were going to be drawing social are not going to be drawing social.

Let me EXPLAIN it to you. The SURVIVORS of those MF'ers that won't draw SS are AL:READY drawing SS. PERHAPS it is YOU who needs to "read up" on what the PROVISIONS of that entitlement actually provides.

The reality is, by 2030, the "trust fund" for SS is going to DRY UP. PERIOD. That is a MATHEMATICAL FACT since there are NO LONGER any "excess" taxes going into the "Trust fund". 100% of what is being TAKEN IN is going to CURRENT beneficiaries. AND the "balance" of the 80% that these taxes are paying comes from that "Trust fund". MORE are drawing SS than are PAYING IN, which means that the PONZI SCHEME will fall within itself and be a BROKEN PROMISE that government can take away at any time.
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Mar 2023, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 10:58 am

It's taking it's sweet **** time. Retarded people have been shrieking that for 88 years. It's currently withstanding the boomer onslaught.

But I will grant you, if they can hypnotize enough retards, they can make it "go broke."

The post office will take a letter from Anchorage to Albequerque for 65 cents. A lot of homosexuals prefer to pay 15 dollars.

Where do you stand?

The "reforms" for the post office are simple: Let them charge a few more cents per letter - stop keeping them JUST under profitable in order to float the fiction that they are "failing" and have to be "rescued." Or even just stop making them fund their retirement differently and more rigidly than every other company in the country. Better still, both.

In other words, stop trying to destroy the post office in order to part out the people's property and give it to wall street, kleptocracy-style.

The reforms to SS may not be necessary. In case you're new to this country - and this planet, - there is a major die off in progress. All cause mortality in people 18-49 is up 40%. Based on the above out-of-house narrative, I suspect your brain is not big enough to understand the enormity of that, so I will explain it to you. A lot of mother **** that were going to be drawing social are not going to be drawing social.

"All cause mortality in people 18-49 is up 40%."

Now we know why they pushed the vax.

Cannonpointer » 23 Mar 2023, 10:32 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 10:32 am

Our politicians are deeply committed to destroying social security and the post office. 

In the past, it was the bathroomers against the demonrats - and then the demonrats became bathroomers. 

WORSE bathroomers than the bathroomers.
 
 

but the bathrumors just make **** up to keep everyone going to bathroomers for advice on who they are in reality serving humanity. **** ancestry since nobody asked a malcontent of life if they wanted to be reproduced.

So they invented why are you here mantra and reasonable doubt to gain power over honestly navigating space for the time each has adapting to the moment here.

Really is very basic compounding evolving done naturally here. Yet every 1st world nation rejects it for human rights to pretend now isn't eternity.

Where did humanity go wrong? Corrupting each great great grandchild already born replacing their previous 4 generation gaps already existed since conceived.

Self evident doesn't work by intellectual predeterminations of obey us or else.

Beekeeper » 23 Mar 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 11:04 am

Let me EXPLAIN it to you. The SURVIVORS of those MF'ers that won't draw SS are AL:READY drawing SS. PERHAPS it is YOU who needs to "read up" on what the PROVISIONS of that entitlement actually provides.

The reality is, by 2030, the "trust fund" for SS is going to DRY UP. PERIOD. That is a MATHEMATICAL FACT since there are NO LONGER any "excess" taxes going into the "Trust fund". 100% of what is being TAKEN IN is going to CURRENT beneficiaries. AND the "balance" of the 80% that these taxes are paying comes from that "Trust fund". MORE are drawing SS than are PAYING IN, which means that the PONZI SCHEME will fall within itself and be a BROKEN PROMISE that government can take away at any time.

Oh, I have NO DOUBT they intend to break the promise - to dishonor SS bonds while honoring every other obligation, empowered by mouth-****. But your math - supported only by your shaky breath - is off a bit.

By 2033, the SS trust fund will only be able to meet 78% of projected obligations. Rform IS needed. Panic isn't.

https://marketrealist.com/p/who-borrowe ... -security/

We are the richest country in the world - and much poorer countries are somehow miraculously managing to keep their seniors out of the poor house. We might have to ask you chicken hawks to root for one less war of choice.   

EDC4ALL! » 23 Mar 2023, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 11:14 am

"All cause mortality in people 18-49 is up 40%."

Now we know why they pushed the vax.

It''s actually flat.


 

EDC4ALL! » 23 Mar 2023, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 11:14 am

"All cause mortality in people 18-49 is up 40%."

Now we know why they pushed the vax.

The major cognitive dissonance people need to wrap their heads around is that trump was in on it up to his eyeballs. 

That mother **** even stood there and took a saline injection, pretending they experiment on presidents.

They don't, by the way. 

They don't experiment on presidents. 
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Mar 2023, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 11:17 am

Oh, I have NO DOUBT they intend to break the promise - to dishonor SS bonds while honoring every other obligation, empowered by mouth-****. But your math - supported only by your shaky breath - is off a bit.

By 2033, the SS trust fund will only be able to meet 78% of projected obligations. Rform IS needed. Panic isn't.

https://marketrealist.com/p/who-borrowe ... -security/

We are the richest country in the world - and much poorer countries are somehow miraculously managing to keep their seniors out of the poor house. We might have to ask you chicken hawks to root for one less war of choice. 

A. So you agree that my post that reforms are needed is accurate. I never said that they weren't.

B. We are NO LONGER the 'richest country in the world", but we have way too many sucking the government teat to remain ONE of the richest. EVERYONE want "government to do something" about their PERSONAL ISSUES.

C. I don't support more wars. THAT appears to be the LWNJs doing that.

Cannonpointer » 23 Mar 2023, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

23 Mar 2023, 11:23 am

The major cognitive dissonance people need to wrap their heads around is that trump was in on it up to his eyeballs. 

That mother **** even stood there and took a saline injection, pretending they experiment on presidents.

They don't, by the way. 

They don't experiment on presidents. 
 

This is where you are inaccurate here, Those doing the vaccine are career government officials wanting Trump dead by any means not their fault. They gave him the real vaccine when they wouldn't have to Obama, Biden, either Clinton.

pence wants to privatize social security.