It appears my point flew over your head.Monderegal » 22 Mar 2023, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑ China is catching up with its hardware right now. They also know how to do more with less. India, South Africa, and Venezuela all buy their weapons from other nations.
I don't. It makes no sense that China would sell Russia it's top shelf ****. Nor is it sensible to believe their mid level **** surpasses Russia's existing technology. And on top of that, I don't care, actually. I'm a Monroe Doctrine kind of fellow - not a neocon, sitting about fretting over the other side of the globe.Monderegal » 22 Mar 2023, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑ China makes their own and could presumably cause Russia to improve it's military beyond some of the cheap drones Iran is selling them. Don't believe me?
Well isn't that interesting. You know, I heard the McNutly's little Collie had her pups. 9 in all.Monderegal » 22 Mar 2023, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑ Yes, China is estimated to be the world’s second-largest arms producer, trailing the United States and ahead of Russia, according to a 2020 report by SIPRI. Much of the PLA’s equipment is now built domestically12. In fact, China is estimated to be the world’s second-largest arms producer, trailing the United States and ahead of Russia, according to a 2020 report by SIPRI1. Most of its exports go to developing countries, such as Pakistan1.
Cannonpointer » 22 Mar 2023, 11:37 am » wrote: ↑ It appears my point flew over your head.
Are you suggesting that Russia has no right to arm itself, or are you suggesting that China hasn't the native right to trade?
I don't. It makes no sense that China would sell Russia it's top shelf ****. Nor is it sensible to believe their mid level **** surpasses Russia's existing technology. And on top of that, I don't care, actually. I'm a Monroe Doctrine kind of fellow - not a neocon, sitting about fretting over the other side of the globe.
Well isn't that interesting. You know, I heard the McNutly's little Collie had her pups. 9 in all.
You just watch - my grandkid is gonna drag one home and beg to keep him. Then I'm gonna be the bad guy - either with my grandkid or with his parents.
So how about this weather we've been having, huh?
Then we DO agree.Monderegal » 22 Mar 2023, 12:06 pm » wrote: ↑ Well I guess that's where we differ. Ukraine might be the first step towards a global imbalance
Because not stopping Putin now could lead to further problems for Europe and elsewhere. That's the theory right now I personally hold. I'm not really sure it's sound but that depends on how you look at the situation. Personally, I think its good to stop Putin now before he tries to create something of a Russian Empire by starting with Ukraine. Perhaps stopping Hitler early would have also prevented World War II. I guess you're flying with the idea that America wants to be an empire. Thankfully that stopped in Iraq and it doesn't stop Russia from also being culpable to the same standards.Cannonpointer » 22 Mar 2023, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑ Then we DO agree.
So why are you not supporting Putin's check, fool?
The important thing is to NOT view it in the context of any human history whatsoever.Monderegal » 22 Mar 2023, 12:22 pm » wrote: ↑ Because not stopping Putin now could lead to further problems for Europe and elsewhere. That's the theory right now I personally hold. I'm not really sure it's sound but that depends on how you look at the situation.
Are you, like, cock-signaling?Monderegal » 22 Mar 2023, 12:22 pm » wrote: ↑ I guess you're flying with the idea that America wants to be an empire. Thankfully that stopped in Iraq
Cannonpointer » 22 Mar 2023, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑ The important thing is to NOT view it in the context of any human history whatsoever.
You seem to have that in hand.
Are you, like, cock-signaling?
WHO STOPPED IT? WHEN? WHICH pRESIDENT?
Be pricise - use the name.![]()
That's got to be the stupidest thing you've said to date, son. AFTER Iraq, we destroyed Lybia, invaded Syra, reneged on our thousand year sacred duty to Kurdish terrorist groups, pushed a proxy war in Yemen, murdered an Iranian government official, Robbed the government of Venezuela, fostered a failed coup in Venezuela, sent hundreds of missiles into various sites in Syria, toppled the elected government of Ukraine and supplanted it with hand picked coup members - WHICH CAUSED RUSSIA TO ANNEX THE CRIMEA IN ITS EXTREME AND URGENT NATIONAL INTERESTS and which started the current conflict in Ukraine, which we continue to egg on while Russia has consistently sued for peace.Monderegal » 22 Mar 2023, 3:00 pm » wrote: ↑ No President stopped it. The failure itself made it untenable for the Untied States military to try that again.

Taipan is blissfully ignorant of all that cuz he knows nothing of geopolitics, despite the thread title.Cannonpointer » 22 Mar 2023, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑ That's got to be the stupidest thing you've said to date, son. AFTER Iraq, we destroyed Lybia, invaded Syra, reneged on our thousand year sacred duty to Kurdish terrorist groups, pushed a proxy war in Yemen, murdered an Iranian government official, Robbed the government of Venezuela, fostered a failed coup in Venezuela, sent hundreds of missiles into various sites in Syria, toppled the elected government of Ukraine and supplanted it with hand picked coup members - WHICH CAUSED RUSSIA TO ANNEX THE CRIMEA IN ITS EXTREME AND URGENT NATIONAL INTERESTS and which started the current conflict in Ukraine, which we continue to egg on while Russia has consistently sued for peace.
Are you on the spectrum, you ****-giggling bufoon? Or just an MIC-fed jaggaz?
Monderegal is likewise exposing himself as a **** neophyte swimming farther from shore than he belongs.SJConspirator » 22 Mar 2023, 3:11 pm » wrote: ↑ Taipan is blissfully ignorant of all that cuz he knows nothing of geopolitics, despite the thread title.
Cannonpointer » 22 Mar 2023, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑ That's got to be the stupidest thing you've said to date, son. AFTER Iraq, we destroyed Lybia, invaded Syra, reneged on our thousand year sacred duty to Kurdish terrorist groups, pushed a proxy war in Yemen, murdered an Iranian government official, Robbed the government of Venezuela, fostered a failed coup in Venezuela, sent hundreds of missiles into various sites in Syria, toppled the elected government of Ukraine and supplanted it with hand picked coup members - WHICH CAUSED RUSSIA TO ANNEX THE CRIMEA IN ITS EXTREME AND URGENT NATIONAL INTERESTS and which started the current conflict in Ukraine, which we continue to egg on while Russia has consistently sued for peace.
Are you on the spectrum, you ****-giggling bufoon? Or just an MIC-fed jaggaz?
Whoa - don't change the subject, neocon.
Ukraine is next door and courting NATO short range missles (the most accurate and cheapest and most prolific and tactical kind) on Russia's borders.Monderegal » 22 Mar 2023, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑Kurdish "terrorist" groups, Houthis in Yemen (and not stopping the Saudis), Ukraine involvement questionable, but I will give you the malfeasance in Venezuela. Still, we didn't invade them. We invaded Iraq and explain the security interest for Russia in Ukraine in a manner that wouldn't justify further invasions?
Perhaps I'm a little bias towards the United States government position. I'll admit that.Cannonpointer » 22 Mar 2023, 3:33 pm » wrote: ↑ Whoa - don't change the subject, neocon.
Assad being bombed with YOUR COUNTRY'S MISSILES - that was the actual subject. I said not one word about his citizens - why did you deflect?
Ukraine is next door and courting NATO short range missles (the most accurate and cheapest and most prolific and tactical kind) on Russia's borders.
Pretend Russia or China staged a coup in Mexico and installed a friendly government there, and were planning to put missiles on OUR border. What do you suppose our response would be?
Before you answer, google, "Cuban Missile Crisis." You will have your entire world view exploded, once you learn about that historical event.
Perhaps you should work on having a slightly more mature world view - as opposed to the "My mother, drunk or sober" attitude.Monderegal » 22 Mar 2023, 3:36 pm » wrote: ↑ Perhaps I'm a little bias towards the United States government position. I'll admit that.
Cannonpointer » 22 Mar 2023, 3:40 pm » wrote: ↑ Perhaps you should work on having a slightly more mature world view - as opposed to the "My mother, drunk or sober" attitude.
That you would suggest we stopped being an empire? Bro, that was SEWPER gay.
They pay people in the United States to tell little boys that they could chop off their penis and become girls. I wouldn't call that level of brainwashing to be freeMonderegal » 22 Mar 2023, 3:57 pm » wrote: ↑ They pay people in China to say things about happiness and support for the government in social media. Seriously. I wouldn't call that level of brainwashing to be free.
Oh, horse **** ****.
Yes, Turkey is on The USSR'S border - hell, on RUSSIA'S border. We agreed to stand down some of our turkish missiles in exchange for them moving the cuban missiles.Monderegal » 22 Mar 2023, 3:36 pm » wrote: ↑ Perhaps I'm a little bias towards the United States government position. I'll admit that.
I also heard that Khrushchev didn't even inform Castro that he was removing the missiles. I also once asked a Russian friend before the invasion about the Soviet perspective and he said they made a deal to move some missiles from Turkey in exchange.
lofl