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Skans » 28 Mar 2023, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 9:14 am

I'm not bad, I don't spam and I don't tag CP, or his Krishna-pet Ronjul, just to be a PITA.  And, I'm only a dick to some people here.  Well, maybe I'm a dick to most people here some of the time, but only when they deserve it.

I enjoy an under-the-radar life here.
I see dickheads slamming the site and tagging the whole team... sans me!

Why I am left out is a bit odd but it's an inclusion I do not miss.   

Stupid **** frothing at the mouth, so eager to punch out a vile message, typos, incomplete sentences.
CP likes it. Rolling in the muck with these mental midgets is their problem. Not his (or mine).

Try to suck up and ask about the nominate thing. We need more participation anyway.
Dickheads are allowed.

DeezerShoove » 28 Mar 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 9:39 am

I enjoy an under-the-radar life here.
I see dickheads slamming the site and tagging the whole team... sans me!

Why I am left out is a bit odd but it's an inclusion I do not miss.   

Stupid **** frothing at the mouth, so eager to punch out a vile message, typos, incomplete sentences.
CP likes it. Rolling in the muck with these mental midgets is their problem. Not his (or mine).

Try to suck up and ask about the nominate thing. We need more participation anyway.
Dickheads are allowed.

Next time I have a reason to poke the bear, I'll ask. I was really just curious about it.  Saw a post (now I can't remember which one) that was really good the other day - might have even been yours, but I honestly don't recall.
 

Beekeeper » 28 Mar 2023, 7:46 am » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 7:46 am

Poor Professor Broekback- aka @Xavier_Onassis  .

NOW he is pulling his BEST Josef Stalin!! KILL THE RICH BASTARDS and then what happens?? Seize their money and "distribute" it to whom?? The ELITISTS who killed the "evil rich"??

Because in the REAL WORLD, no "poor person": will see ONE RED CENT of anything those "evil rich" people had taken from them

You, PROFESSOR BROKEBACK, need to be BANNED for calling for the MURDER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO JUST HAPPENED TO WORK HARDER THAN YOU EVER WILL TO EARN A TON MORE THAN YOU ARE CAPABLE OF EARNING!!

It is totally unnecessary to murder wealthy people to force them to cough up their fair share. 
Only a fraction of the wealthiest people have actually worked any harder than the ordinary working people.
Trump started with millions. Bloomberg did not.
Inheritance and luck are important to every wealthy person. They could get cancer, lupus, MS, or many other diseases that would have prevented them from earning anything.  Their health, like everyone's health, is a matter of chance and luck.

Xavier_Onassis » 28 Mar 2023, 9:46 am » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 9:46 am

It is totally unnecessary to murder wealthy people to force them to cough up their fair share. 
Only a fraction of the wealthiest people have actually worked any harder than the ordinary working people.
Trump started with millions. Bloomberg did not.
Inheritance and luck are important to every wealthy person. They could get cancer, lupus, MS, or many other diseases that would have prevented them from earning anything.  Their health, like everyone's health, is a matter of chance and luck.

Now notice how Professor Brokeback is into that "spreading the wealth around" diatribe.

Fact is, Professor, MOST MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES WORKED THEIR ARSES OFF TO GET WHERE THEY ARE TODAY!! Less than 1% "inherited" anything. A few, but ONLY a tiny fraction of hard working people who make it big.

But you seem to think it was LUCK?? And that some "disease" could have wiped them out and that MOST health issues are NOT solvable or preventable?? So tell us, Dr. Brokeback, WHY is it your boy obambam and now your boy bye-DONE are putting ALL their healthcare eggs in the "preventative medicine" basket in their PROPOSED plans??

Oh wait, you have NO  ANSWER so you will HIDE like another of your INFAMOUS ****** does ( @maineman  ).

Persons governing people is what it takes that makes up a government.

So the few that bovern the governed day to day on every little details that arrives with evolving here one at a time.

Economics. Symbolism over substance. Debate the meaning of life socially instead of what it means to be alive now.

Here comes the trickle down results by rule of 72 yield on interest rates of investments.

Common value currency for a social order everyone uses across all separate races, creeds, colors, national origins, generation gaps, etc.
Taxation, % taxed every exchange of currency by everyone using that currency on every level of governance from townhall to global economic trade.

investment passbook saving lowest of all. CD little better, commidities market, stocks and bonds, real estate, manufacturing,producing raw materials to finished products.

Compounding rates under the disguise relative time is money. Passbook at best quarterly.
CD's best Weekly
rest vary day to day.

Taxation, every transfer of currency doing business as a society.

6% sales tax on each dollar used. Each dollar bill used 16.25 times yields the local government a dollar in return. So a dollar bill is used how many time berfore a new dollar bill is printed to replace the wornout cloth money cash or coins. 25 upto a 100 times.

That symbolism over substance economic system the cash in real time became obsolete in the first 16.25% used. That is just one tax at a city or county level. Want to do more taxes on top of that.

Now comes compounding rate of 72. so city and county sales tax depleats the dollar value in 16.25 transactions.

lets do interest rates on loans or credit cards ranging from 5% to 25% on unpaid balances. Antoher system of depleting the dollar value of currency.

Shall we do income taxes be it city, state, federal levels? 3 more compounding on top of the others in use.

See Xavier, I do understand exponential results vs existential distractions from the whole evolving process done adapting to space mutually evolving forward now genetics eternally spearates every reproduction ever existed in this atmosphere.

My brain navigates this body never same total sum results twice. I understand why people ignore actual living. I was trained to be a typecast personality also since birth.

I don't like being stereotyped anymore than anyone else does. So I figured out why rule of law typecasts everyone alive.

Xavier_Onassis » 28 Mar 2023, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 9:13 am

That is a lie.
The market was headed upward for the last two years of Obama's presidency, and the DJIA did NOT go up 11,000 points.
Trump added more to the deficit than any other recent president.

You are mistaken.
Obama  =  1.  9.3 Trillion Dollar increase of National Debt.     88% increase.
                   2.  Brought in queers, trannies, & drag-queens to our military
                        education system.   
                   3.   Fought for BLM,CRT, Aff./Act., & reparations.
                   4.  Diversity & Equity weakens us.

The only pres. to hurt us more than Obama,.....is Asshole Joe.

RayJJohnson » 27 Mar 2023, 3:53 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Mar 2023, 3:53 pm

The theory is supply-side economics. Trickle down economics is the name leftists gave it. Leave it to the left to twist things. 

Trickle down is the better description. The words "supply side" serve only to baffle and confuse people.

Supply side economics suggests that the wrong kind of economics would be DEMAND side economics.
 

Xavier_Onassis » 28 Mar 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 3:59 pm

Trickle down is the better description. The words "supply side" serve only to baffle and confuse people.

Supply side economics suggests that the wrong kind of economics would be DEMAND side economics.

Americans live in demand side economics according to Biden. Lower unemployment and higher salaries create demand. That demand is causing inflation since demand is outstripping supply. Supply from places like China with cheap labor is something more in line with the thoughts of supply side. With more supply you have with lower labor costs and offshoring things makes them much cheaper. Of course, that is also a race to the bottom in and of itself. 

"Supply and demand is a fundamental concept in economics that describes how prices of goods and services are determined in a market economy. It refers to the amount of a commodity, product, or service available and the desire of buyers for it, considered as factors regulating its price¹. 
In other words, if there is a high demand for a product or service but low supply, then the price will increase. Conversely, if there is low demand but high supply, then the price will decrease²." 

 
 

What has been happening is that a lot of businesses are just **** GREEDY. Gas stations charge between $3.20 and $3.99 for Regular. Normally there is only a 10 to 15 cent price difference between the most expensive stations (Miami Beach) and the cheapest (presently along Biscayne Blvd).

Grocery stores that used to have special offers have many fewer than before. Aldi's is way cheaper than any other grocery.
I think the consumption of eggs is rather constant. I eat one egg per day, regardless of price. But a dozen eggs are #3.29 at Aldis and over $5.00 in some other stores.

Monderegal » 28 Mar 2023, 5:35 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 5:35 pm

Americans live in demand side economics according to Biden. Lower unemployment and higher salaries create demand. That demand is causing inflation since demand is outstripping supply. Supply from places like China with cheap labor is something more in line with the thoughts of supply side. With more supply you have with lower labor costs and offshoring things makes them much cheaper. Of course, that is also a race to the bottom in and of itself. 

"Supply and demand is a fundamental concept in economics that describes how prices of goods and services are determined in a market economy. It refers to the amount of a commodity, product, or service available and the desire of buyers for it, considered as factors regulating its price¹. 
In other words, if there is a high demand for a product or service but low supply, then the price will increase. Conversely, if there is low demand but high supply, then the price will decrease²."

Keynesian?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiYZ6K ... rt_radio=1

Skans » 28 Mar 2023, 9:44 am » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 9:44 am

Next time I have a reason to poke the bear, I'll ask. I was really just curious about it.  Saw a post (now I can't remember which one) that was really good the other day - might have even been yours, but I honestly don't recall.

All of mine are excellent.

DeezerShoove » 28 Mar 2023, 5:59 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 5:59 pm

All of mine are excellent.

Well, there's:

• Excellent
• Outstanding
• Dazzling, and
• GOAT

You've got to at least dazzle me if you want to make the cut.
 

Skans » 28 Mar 2023, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 6:05 pm

Well, there's:

• Excellent
• Outstanding
• Dazzling, and
• GOAT

You've got to at least dazzle me if you want to make the cut.

No. Never happen. You are never satisfied.  

DeezerShoove » 28 Mar 2023, 6:06 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 6:06 pm

No. Never happen. You are never satisfied.

Oh, COME ON, that's not fair!!!
 

PastorBlast » 28 Mar 2023, 5:57 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 5:57 pm

Keynesian?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiYZ6K ... rt_radio=1

Keynesian economics is a theory by a man named John Maynard Keynes on economics and where it stood during the Great Depression. It involved a lot of different angles but the basic assumption is that governments should act on markets but not just let markets work on their own. Lassiaz-faire economics prevailed before the Great Depression that stated that the government should never intervene in markets or at the most only prevent monopolies in markets. Therefore, the role of government intervention in markets holds strong to this day since a market failure has not occurred since the Great Depression in America and the theories were vital in the crash that occurred in 2008.

Trumprules » 27 Mar 2023, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Mar 2023, 3:42 pm

At least $11.3 trillion is held “offshore,” according to a 2020 study by the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

Link?

Xavier_Onassis » 28 Mar 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 3:59 pm

Trickle down is the better description. The words "supply side" serve only to baffle and confuse people.

Supply side economics suggests that the wrong kind of economics would be DEMAND side economics.

Well, yea.   That's because Demand side economics drives up prices due to a scarcity of supply.
Thanks for demonstrating you have no idea what you're talking about. 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 28 Mar 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 3:59 pm

Trickle down is the better description. The words "supply side" serve only to baffle and confuse people.

Supply side economics suggests that the wrong kind of economics would be DEMAND side economics.

It is only better because you want to childishly characterize it that way. Supply side economics is the best name for it because it targets the supply of goods and services. I am not a fan of supply side economics because it still has targeted tax programs inside the failed progressive tax system. If you get rid of the current progressive tax system, you don't need supply side economics. You switch to a sales tax or a flat tax. Free up as much capital as possible and let the system work for its self. 

Supply side doesn't suggest that demand is bad. Supply side is an attempt to free up commerce in the current tax system. Bothe supply and demand side economics deal with the same tax system. I want to remove taxes from the system to allow the supply and demand to regulate themselves. This way you don't have to choose one system or the other. You don't want to do this because you are for a command and control economy. 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 28 Mar 2023, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 9:13 am

That is a lie.
The market was headed upward for the last two years of Obama's presidency, and the DJIA did NOT go up 11,000 points.
Trump added more to the deficit than any other recent president.

FYI;

DJIA on 1/20/2017 = $19,827
DJIA on 1/20/2021 = $31,188

An increase of $11,361. In spite of (mostly) liberal state and local officials shutting down much of the economy the last year of his term.

Why do you lie about something so easy to check?
 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 28 Mar 2023, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2023, 9:13 am

Trump added more to the deficit than any other recent president.

This is correct and you completely supported it, so don't act as if this is just a case of a Republican spending money. You know full well that the spending that blew up was largely due to the pandemic and those policies were continued and increased when Biden took office. Also Trump is NOT a conservative. Trump is a big government populist.