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Nothing can be done. It's just all excuses and blame. No answers. No solutions.

jerrab » 30 Mar 2023, 2:11 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 2:11 pm

can we niow count 5 black people as five black people instead of 3 as it was originally in the constitution?

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What is the 3 5 clause in the Constitution?

Article one, section two of the Constitution of the United States declared that any person who was not free would be counted as three-fifths of a free individual for the purposes of determining congressional representation. The "Three-Fifths Clause" thus increased the political power of slaveholding states.

That would be awesome. If we went back to that then the Democrat party would cease to exist.

 

Warcok » 30 Mar 2023, 2:25 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 2:25 pm

That would be awesome. If we went back to that then the Democrat party would cease to exist.

but the constitution can be changed in fact jefferson even allowed that in the constitution.

Warcok » 30 Mar 2023, 2:25 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 2:25 pm

That would be awesome. If we went back to that then the Democrat party would cease to exist.

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The year the U.S. Constitution was ratified was also the year the French Revolution broke out and Thomas Jefferson was there to witness it. In this letter to James Madison, Jefferson asks whether or not “one generation of men has a right to bind another,” either in the form of a financial debt or a political obligation to obey a constitution of laws not contracted by that individual. He comes to the surprising conclusion that any constitution (the American included) has to lapse roughly after every generation (actually, based on his calculations, every 19 years) since it was first signed and ratified. Thus, the American Constitution should lapse and become null and void in 1808. Jefferson believed in the principle that “the earth belongs to the living and not to the dead” which meant that previous generations could not bind the current generation to pay their debts, or require them to work in their father’s occupation, or to accept the laws and constitution drawn up by their ancestors. In his mind, “no society can make a perpetual constitution, or even a perpetual law”. The only “umpire” between the generations was the law of nature.”

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What did Thomas Jefferson say about the Constitution?
Thomas Jefferson warned us not to regard the Capital C Constitution as sacred writ. On July 12, 1816, he wrote, “Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence and deem them like the ark of the covenant, too sacred to be touched.May 30, 20

ScottMon » 30 Mar 2023, 2:18 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 2:18 pm

Nothing can be done. It's just all excuses and blame. No answers. No solutions.

banning pet cats is a start.
 

"Time and changes in the condition and constitution of society may require occasional and corresponding modifications." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Livingston, 1825. ME 16:113

"Nothing is more likely than that [the] enumeration of powers is defective. This is the ordinary case of all human works. Let us then go on perfecting it by adding by way of amendment to the Constitution those powers which time and trial show are still wanting." --Thomas Jefferson to Wilson Nicholas, 1803. ME 10:419

jerrab » 30 Mar 2023, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 2:35 pm

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The year the U.S. Constitution was ratified was also the year the French Revolution broke out and Thomas Jefferson was there to witness it. In this letter to James Madison, Jefferson asks whether or not “one generation of men has a right to bind another,” either in the form of a financial debt or a political obligation to obey a constitution of laws not contracted by that individual. He comes to the surprising conclusion that any constitution (the American included) has to lapse roughly after every generation (actually, based on his calculations, every 19 years) since it was first signed and ratified. Thus, the American Constitution should lapse and become null and void in 1808. Jefferson believed in the principle that “the earth belongs to the living and not to the dead” which meant that previous generations could not bind the current generation to pay their debts, or require them to work in their father’s occupation, or to accept the laws and constitution drawn up by their ancestors. In his mind, “no society can make a perpetual constitution, or even a perpetual law”. The only “umpire” between the generations was the law of nature.”

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What did Thomas Jefferson say about the Constitution?
Thomas Jefferson warned us not to regard the Capital C Constitution as sacred writ. On July 12, 1816, he wrote, “Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence and deem them like the ark of the covenant, too sacred to be touched.May 30, 20

Warcok » 30 Mar 2023, 2:44 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 2:44 pm

*** run, *** flew/*** tore his shirt in two/Run, run, the pattyroller git you/Run *** run, well ya better get away. That's right, like you mean it. *** run, run so fast/Stove his head in a hornet's nest/Run, run, the pattyroller git you/Run ***, run, well ya bette git away/Run, ***, run, the pattyroller git you/Run *** run, well ya better git away/Some folks say a *** don't steal/well I caught three in my cornfield/One had a bushel and one had a peck/and one had a rope being hung around his neck/Run *** run/ the pattyroller git you/Run *** run, well ya better get away/Hey, Mr. Pattyroller, don't catch me/Catch that *** behind that tree!/Run *** run, the pattyroller get you/Run *** run, well ya better get away.

gibbrish when you can't win an argument

jerrab » 30 Mar 2023, 2:45 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 2:45 pm

gibbrish when you can't win an argument

What argument? We're in an argument?

jerrab » 30 Mar 2023, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 12:56 pm

solution-- anyone who wants to buy ar15 rifles needs a special license. a signature from a psychologist and if under 30 at least one parent. the license will be issued by the police. unless the person can show the license they can't buy an ar 15. anyone who sells an ar 15 to a person without a license will be charged with all murders committed by the person. if a shrink signs a license and the person shoots people, his license will be under review and may be terminated and maybe charged with the murders as well.

You want to make every one but the actual shooter to be responsible.  That's ****!!!

Red flag laws are already in place.  

Yet, crackhead hunter biden can LIE about his drug use on an FF application to purchase a handgun which is a felony, but NOTHING is done to him.  Why?


 

Warcok » 30 Mar 2023, 2:44 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 2:44 pm

*** run, *** flew/*** tore his shirt in two/Run, run, the pattyroller git you/Run *** run, well ya better get away. That's right, like you mean it. *** run, run so fast/Stove his head in a hornet's nest/Run, run, the pattyroller git you/Run ***, run, well ya bette git away/Run, ***, run, the pattyroller git you/Run *** run, well ya better git away/Some folks say a *** don't steal/well I caught three in my cornfield/One had a bushel and one had a peck/and one had a rope being hung around his neck/Run *** run/ the pattyroller git you/Run *** run, well ya better get away/Hey, Mr. Pattyroller, don't catch me/Catch that *** behind that tree!/Run *** run, the pattyroller get you/Run *** run, well ya better get away.

is that a rap song?
 

jerrab » 30 Mar 2023, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 11:12 am

exactly right, she bought the gun legally. you don't see a problem with that?

our children's safety is our business and parents have the right to expect their children to come home and not get blown to pieces at school because people put their own rights above children's lives.

Arm the teachers and administrators!!!
 

jerrab » 30 Mar 2023, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 11:12 am

exactly right, she bought the gun legally. you don't see a problem with that?

our children's safety is our business and parents have the right to expect their children to come home and not get blown to pieces at school because people put their own rights above children's lives.

Oh, so you want to DENY RIGHTS like your boy Adolf started doing in NAZI GERMANY so that he could be the "Fuhrer" and then tell the people what their rights were.

Your "argument" is a BIG STRAWMAN since the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS is a right enshrined in the Constitution. The PROBLEM isn't the gun, penisbreath, but the PROBLEM is the LEFT WING NUT JOBS you are calling "normal" when they are as mentally NUTZ as the come.

POM » 30 Mar 2023, 3:00 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 3:00 pm

is that a rap song?

It was from the movie 12 years a slave   
 
 

Buffalo » 30 Mar 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 2:58 pm

You want to make every one but the actual shooter to be responsible.  That's ****!!!

Red flag laws are already in place.  

Yet, crackhead hunter biden can LIE about his drug use on an FF application to purchase a handgun which is a felony, but NOTHING is done to him.  Why?

red flag laws are not cutting it. people who don't have records but are mentally crazy can get guns.
 

Beekeeper » 30 Mar 2023, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 3:03 pm

Oh, so you want to DENY RIGHTS like your boy Adolf started doing in NAZI GERMANY so that he could be the "Fuhrer" and then tell the people what their rights were.

Your "argument" is a BIG STRAWMAN since the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS is a right enshrined in the Constitution. The PROBLEM isn't the gun, penisbreath, but the PROBLEM is the LEFT WING NUT JOBS you are calling "normal" when they are as mentally NUTZ as the come.

the constitution is not a sacred document, like jefferson said.
 

Warcok » 30 Mar 2023, 2:48 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 2:48 pm

What argument? We're in an argument?

yes we are and I won.

Beekeeper » 30 Mar 2023, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Mar 2023, 3:03 pm

Oh, so you want to DENY RIGHTS like your boy Adolf started doing in NAZI GERMANY so that he could be the "Fuhrer" and then tell the people what their rights were.

Your "argument" is a BIG STRAWMAN since the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS is a right enshrined in the Constitution. The PROBLEM isn't the gun, penisbreath, but the PROBLEM is the LEFT WING NUT JOBS you are calling "normal" when they are as mentally NUTZ as the come.

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What did Thomas Jefferson say about the Constitution?

Thomas Jefferson warned us not to regard the Capital C Constitution as sacred writ. On July 12, 1816, he wrote, “Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence and deem them like the ark of the covenant, too sacred to be touched.May 30, 20