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The WEAPONIZATION of the Legal System, DOJ and FBI is a THREAT to America's existence.. and SOMETHING needs to be DONE !
The WEAPONIZATION of the Legal System, DOJ and FBI is a THREAT to America's existence.. and SOMETHING needs to be DONE !
By ConservativeWave
1 Apr 2023 2:22 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
3 Apr 2023 6:13 pm
You are grasping beyond our topic.maineman » 03 Apr 2023, 6:07 pm » wrote: ↑ My point was that politics don't play a part in determining whether a defendant did or did not commit the crime for which they are indicted. Do you think blue state juries will be more likely to find a man not guilty of sexual abuse of a minor than red state juries will given the same evidence? Do blue state juries look at evidence of B&E differently than red state juries?
It sounds like the weaponization of the legal system is YOUR dream rather than any reality.
That pissing contest you need can be found elsewhere.
If this was so clear cut and fair, why would you progs get so broken up about SCOTUS selections?
Why is the 9th Circuit Court considered "liberal"?
Liberal and conservative enforcement is different, like it or not. Juries reflect that.
Ok, bye.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
3 Apr 2023 6:13 pm
BULL EFFING ****!!!maineman » 03 Apr 2023, 6:07 pm » wrote: ↑ My point was that politics don't play a part in determining whether a defendant did or did not commit the crime for which they are indicted. Do you think blue state juries will be more likely to find a man not guilty of sexual abuse of a minor than red state juries will given the same evidence? Do blue state juries look at evidence of B&E differently than red state juries?
It sounds like the weaponization of the legal system is YOUR dream rather than any reality.
Do you think that the IMPEACHMENTS of TRUMP WASN'T POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AND SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT??
You must have pulled your HEAD out of URANUS 2 minutes ago, fluffy. You can tell your wife I'll see here Thursday while you are at it CUCKYBOY!!
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
3 Apr 2023 6:14 pm
maineman » 03 Apr 2023, 6:07 pm » wrote: ↑ My point was that politics don't play a part in determining whether a defendant did or did not commit the crime for which they are indicted. Do you think blue state juries will be more likely to find a man not guilty of sexual abuse of a minor than red state juries will given the same evidence? Do blue state juries look at evidence of B&E differently than red state juries?
It sounds like the weaponization of the legal system is YOUR dream rather than any reality.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
NICE DEFLECT AND SPIN, MOPBOY
BETTER CHANGE THE WATER IN THAT BUCKET
ITS FILLED WITH LEFTIST FILTH
3 Apr 2023 6:15 pm
what does the makeup of appellate courts have to do with juries in red states finding differently than blue state juries.DeezerShoove » 03 Apr 2023, 6:13 pm » wrote: ↑ You are grasping beyond our topic.
That pissing contest you need can be found elsewhere.
If this was so clear cut and fair, why would you progs get so broken up about SCOTUS selections?
Why is the 9th Circuit Court considered "liberal"?
Liberal and conservative enforcement is different, like it or not. Juries reflect that.
Ok, bye.
do those goal post stay in the back of your pickup all the time?
3 Apr 2023 6:19 pm
Pissing Contest Champ^^^maineman » 03 Apr 2023, 6:15 pm » wrote: ↑ what does the makeup of appellate courts have to do with juries in red states finding differently than blue state juries.
do those goal post stay in the back of your pickup all the time?
Work on that deep thinking...
Maybe research Greta Thunberg or Paul Krugman.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
3 Apr 2023 6:28 pm
It's more like FILLED WITH PISSBOYS PISS from his PISS BUCKET!!righteous » 03 Apr 2023, 6:14 pm » wrote: ↑ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
NICE DEFLECT AND SPIN, MOPBOY
BETTER CHANGE THE WATER IN THAT BUCKET
ITS FILLED WITH LEFTIST FILTH
@peepee and @maineman share more human excrement than you can imagine. Filthy and nasty little couple that they are.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
3 Apr 2023 7:48 pm
ConservativeWave » 03 Apr 2023, 5:13 pm » wrote: ↑ No.. he just states FACTS...
WACKOS are the ones who:
1) Accuse others of doing what THEY are actually GUILTY of doing !
2) BASTARDIZE the legal system do that JUSTICE, and EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER the LAW are DESTROYED !
3) Work to IMPLICATE Innocent people based on Contrived LIES, and Fabricated EVIDENCE !
4) ASPIRE to SUBVERT the COURTS, the LAWS, and POLITICS for their OWN Benefit and THEIR ENRICHMENT, and
5) THINK that they can do it ALL WITHOUT "We the People" FIGURING IT OUT, Fighting BACK, GAINING NATIONAL SUPPORT, and DESTROYING the SCUMBAGS IDIOT who would THINK they CAN...
THOSE are the WACKOS !!
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
3 Apr 2023 8:06 pm
Why would a blue State DA charge a store owner with murder for defending himself against and armed robber in his store, while a Red State DA wouldn't?maineman » 03 Apr 2023, 6:07 pm » wrote: ↑ My point was that politics don't play a part in determining whether a defendant did or did not commit the crime for which they are indicted. Do you think blue state juries will be more likely to find a man not guilty of sexual abuse of a minor than red state juries will given the same evidence? Do blue state juries look at evidence of B&E differently than red state juries?
It sounds like the weaponization of the legal system is YOUR dream rather than any reality.
The answer being, that a conservative prosecutor would apply common sense to the situation, where a "progressive" one would play politics with it.
That is the point Deezer is making, and he's right.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
3 Apr 2023 8:28 pm
another partisan opinion with ZERO substantiation.RedheadedStranger » 03 Apr 2023, 8:06 pm » wrote: ↑ Why would a blue State DA charge a store owner with murder for defending himself against and armed robber in his store, while a Red State DA wouldn't?
The answer being, that a conservative prosecutor would apply common sense to the situation, where a "progressive" one would play politics with it.
That is the point Deezer is making, and he's right.
Who really IS weaponizing the legal system?
3 Apr 2023 8:33 pm
I posted a couple of stories just yesterday where Alvin Bragg was bringing murder and attempted murder charges against citizens that used a firearm to defend themselves from criminals.maineman » 03 Apr 2023, 8:28 pm » wrote: ↑ another partisan opinion with ZERO substantiation.
Who really IS weaponizing the legal system?
One guy was even shot twice first by the crook, before he wrestled the gun away from the perp and shot him.
That foolishness doesn't happen with Conservative DAs.
If someone broke into your house, and you shot them... Alvin Bragg thinks YOU should face attempted murder/murder charges. Do you agree with that?
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
3 Apr 2023 8:44 pm
anecdotes ain't data.RedheadedStranger » 03 Apr 2023, 8:33 pm » wrote: ↑ I posted a couple of stories just yesterday where Alvin Bragg was bringing murder and attempted murder charges against citizens that used a firearm to defend themselves from criminals.
One guy was even shot twice first by the crook, before he wrestled the gun away from the perp and shot him.
That foolishness doesn't happen with Conservative DAs.
If someone broke into your house, and you shot them... Alvin Bragg thinks YOU should face attempted murder/murder charges. Do you agree with that?
a couple of stories.
cool.
And if I posted a couple of anecdotes where conservative DA's overstepped their prosecutorial authority, that would completely disprove your anecdotal house of cards, wouldn't it? That's the thing about anecdotes.
And let's be honest....neither of us knows what Alvin Bragg thinks, and to suggest otherwise is... well.... pretty **** presumptuous.
3 Apr 2023 8:55 pm
Alvin Bragg campaigned on and won his position on "I'll get Trump!"... by more than 80 points... and you expect me to believe that a jury pooled from that same 80%+ wouldn't be biased in his favor when handing down an indictment?maineman » 03 Apr 2023, 8:44 pm » wrote: ↑ anecdotes ain't data.
a couple of stories.
cool.
And if I posted a couple of anecdotes where conservative DA's overstepped their prosecutorial authority, that would completely disprove your anecdotal house of cards, wouldn't it? That's the thing about anecdotes.
And let's be honest....neither of us knows what Alvin Bragg thinks, and to suggest otherwise is... well.... pretty **** presumptuous.
Look at the man's record. He is KNOWN for downgrading felony crimes to misdemeanors, with the exception being his number one political target, which is Trump.
That's not an anecdote or presumption... that's fact. That is weaponizing his office, and YOU apparently support it whole heartedly.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
3 Apr 2023 9:17 pm
I believe that the citizens of New York are just as patriotic as the citizens of where you live. I think that if 23 of them listened to the evidence presented by the DA and then deliberated and returned indictments, you and I should both give them the benefit of the doubt and believe that they found the evidence to be convincing.RedheadedStranger » 03 Apr 2023, 8:55 pm » wrote: ↑ Alvin Bragg campaigned on and won his position on "I'll get Trump!"... by more than 80 points... and you expect me to believe that a jury pooled from that same 80%+ wouldn't be biased in his favor when handing down an indictment?
Look at the man's record. He is KNOWN for downgrading felony crimes to misdemeanors, with the exception being his number one political target, which is Trump.
That's not an anecdote or presumption... that's fact. That is weaponizing his office, and YOU apparently support it whole heartedly.
Imagine if the shoe were on the other foot. and YOU were a member of a red state grand jury whose deliberations were questioned as being fatally flawed by paritsanship simply because you were in a red state.
If you really want to start dismissing justice rendered in blue states, then get ready for lawlessness rendered by anyone and everyone who disagrees with justice rendered by anyone they disagree with.
3 Apr 2023 10:25 pm
WHAT THE **** DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE LEFTIST CITIZENS OF NEW YORK EXCEPT THAT THEY'RE IGNORANT RADICALS WHO LISTEN TO LEFTWING MEDIA AND FOLLOW LIKE SHEEPLE.maineman » 03 Apr 2023, 9:17 pm » wrote: ↑ I believe that the citizens of New York are just as patriotic as the citizens of where you live. I think that if 23 of them listened to the evidence presented by the DA and then deliberated and returned indictments, you and I should both give them the benefit of the doubt and believe that they found the evidence to be convincing.
Imagine if the shoe were on the other foot. and YOU were a member of a red state grand jury whose deliberations were questioned as being fatally flawed by paritsanship simply because you were in a red state.
If you really want to start dismissing justice rendered in blue states, then get ready for lawlessness rendered by anyone and everyone who disagrees with justice rendered by anyone they disagree with.
3 Apr 2023 10:39 pm
more than you. I have lots of family in New York..... a sister... two nephews.... a slew of grand nieces and nephews. You?righteous » 03 Apr 2023, 10:25 pm » wrote: ↑ WHAT THE **** DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE LEFTIST CITIZENS OF NEW YORK EXCEPT THAT THEY'RE IGNORANT RADICALS WHO LISTEN TO LEFTWING MEDIA AND FOLLOW LIKE SHEEPLE.
Seriously... you're so **** stupid you can't even find your CAPS LOCK key!
3 Apr 2023 10:42 pm
4 Apr 2023 5:43 am
The citizens of NY and Bragg (and the left in general) aren't looking for the truth, they want their skewed version of "justice"... regardless of the facts.maineman » 03 Apr 2023, 9:17 pm » wrote: ↑ I believe that the citizens of New York are just as patriotic as the citizens of where you live. I think that if 23 of them listened to the evidence presented by the DA and then deliberated and returned indictments, you and I should both give them the benefit of the doubt and believe that they found the evidence to be convincing.
Imagine if the shoe were on the other foot. and YOU were a member of a red state grand jury whose deliberations were questioned as being fatally flawed by paritsanship simply because you were in a red state.
If you really want to start dismissing justice rendered in blue states, then get ready for lawlessness rendered by anyone and everyone who disagrees with justice rendered by anyone they disagree with.
The notion of "No Justice, No Peace!" is a leftist ideology that is based on emotion and not truth. It's about revenge for a perceived wrong, regardless.
If a black man is killed by the cops during an interaction, then the "No Justice No Peace!" Ideology states that the cops were in the wrong and must be persecuted, regardless of the actual facts. This leads to a weaponized Justice system based on emotion, which is what we have in this Country today, orchestrated by the leftist.
The fact that Bragg campaigned on the promise that he was going to "get Trump", expresses this perfectly. At that point, it didn't matter if Trump was actually guilty or not anymore. He was guilty, and the burden was on him to prove his innocence. I'm not sure what world you live in, but that isn't justice. That's revenge.
The Government picks and chooses who gets prosecuted and who doesn't based on nothing more than political ideology anymore. Another example was when the IRS targeted Conservative organizations and denied them 501c status as a means to cripple their ability to operate back during Obama's second term. That was using a Government agency to try and silence political opposition any way you look at it.
Alvin Bragg's "justice" system turns hardcore criminals back onto the streets of NYC daily to pray on the citizenry over and over again, yet directs all his time and effort towards prosecuting a political enemy for what equates to spitting on the sidewalk... and you apparently have no problem with him doing so because to you, the ends justify the means.
4 Apr 2023 5:46 am
Oh, so NOW you are using the "whataboutism" argument to attempt to deflect from the FACTS that you have been given COUNTLESS EXAMPLES of how YOUR SIDE plays POLITICS with CRIMINALS!!maineman » 03 Apr 2023, 9:17 pm » wrote: ↑ I believe that the citizens of New York are just as patriotic as the citizens of where you live. I think that if 23 of them listened to the evidence presented by the DA and then deliberated and returned indictments, you and I should both give them the benefit of the doubt and believe that they found the evidence to be convincing.
Imagine if the shoe were on the other foot. and YOU were a member of a red state grand jury whose deliberations were questioned as being fatally flawed by paritsanship simply because you were in a red state.
If you really want to start dismissing justice rendered in blue states, then get ready for lawlessness rendered by anyone and everyone who disagrees with justice rendered by anyone they disagree with.
Run along fango. YOU GOT YOUR ARSE KICKED ON THIS ONE!!
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
4 Apr 2023 6:00 am
4 Apr 2023 6:02 am
Thanks for the bump.
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