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to meet biden's ecletric car quota, gas engine car production will be moved to mexico. then 100% of cars made in usa will be electric. hats off biden. you have screwed labor again.

future of your gas-mobil: for $19,000.00 a mexican will drive your car to mexico. only thing saved will be the frame, license plate and serial number. every thing else replaced with new items. new body, new engine, new transmission, new interior. every thing new. what a deal. for those who what a gas-mobile.

Can anyone estimate what a payment would be on a 60k ev per month?
I'm wondering how long it would take for it to start saving me money?


 

sootedupCyndi » 13 Apr 2023, 11:43 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2023, 11:43 pm

Can anyone estimate what a payment would be on a 60k ev per month?
I'm wondering how long it would take for it to start saving me money?

  Total MSRP
​​​​​​$28,795

​​​​​Federal EV Tax Credit Up to $7,500.  

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sootedupCyndi » 13 Apr 2023, 11:43 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2023, 11:43 pm

Can anyone estimate what a payment would be on a 60k ev per month?
I'm wondering how long it would take for it to start saving me money?

60k today......80k with tomorrows inflation. something's gotta give. usa gives fake inflation numbers. lies to the public. states must rethink the union. i would recommend the states meet and draw up a new constitution.

walkingstick » 13 Apr 2023, 11:58 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2023, 11:58 pm

60k today......80k with tomorrows inflation. something's gotta give. usa gives fake inflation numbers. lies to the public. states must rethink the union. i would recommend the states meet and draw up a new constitution.

Yea and once they twist everyone's arms into Ev's... They have ya by the balls.... weeeee-
watch the cost of electricity soar then.
If the grid could even stay up.  
 

OdeToJoy » 13 Apr 2023, 11:53 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2023, 11:53 pm

  Total MSRP
​​​​​​$28,795

​​​​​Federal EV Tax Credit Up to $7,500.  

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Cost per month?
 

OdeToJoy » 13 Apr 2023, 11:53 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2023, 11:53 pm

  Total MSRP
​​​​​​$28,795

​​​​​Federal EV Tax Credit Up to $7,500.  

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in 2022 there were 2.86 million new cars sold in usa. biden orders what percentage of cars be e-mobils by 2030? was it 80%. if so multiply the tax credit by that number. and what happens to paying off the national debt? or even paying interest on the ev tax credit debt? these asshole politicians never reveal the whole story.

sootedupCyndi » 14 Apr 2023, 12:04 am » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2023, 12:04 am

Yea and once they twist everyone's arms into Ev's... They have ya by the balls.... weeeee-
watch the cost of electricity soar then.
If the grid could even stay up.

today 3% are ev's. no plans for more electric power. no plans for grid. no plans for reeducating labor. just motor mouth politicians making noise like a china tin toy monkey beating a drum.

walkingstick » 14 Apr 2023, 12:21 am » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2023, 12:21 am

today 3% are ev's. no plans for more electric power. no plans for grid. no plans for reeducating labor. just motor mouth politicians making noise like a china tin toy monkey beating a drum.

i take that back what i posted about biden. biden is a 'wind up rat'. and money does the winding.

walkingstick » 14 Apr 2023, 12:21 am » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2023, 12:21 am

today 3% are ev's. no plans for more electric power. no plans for grid. no plans for reeducating labor. just motor mouth politicians making noise like a china tin toy monkey beating a drum.

yup- I also heard that the car makers- losing 34k on every one. Hard to tell what's true these days.
 

sootedupCyndi » 14 Apr 2023, 12:05 am » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2023, 12:05 am

Cost per month?

Around $400 per month.  I assume used ones are cheaper.

OdeToJoy » 13 Apr 2023, 11:53 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2023, 11:53 pm

  Total MSRP
​​​​​​$28,795

​​​​​Federal EV Tax Credit Up to $7,500.  
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Do you have a link to that distorted price ?

Dude...don't get me wrong...I'll take one if you wanna buy me one, but that price is a come on.
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For more proof ultraliberal are head cases see PIC below !
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MackTheFinger » 14 Apr 2023, 1:02 am » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2023, 1:02 am

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Do you have a link to that distorted price ?

Dude...don't get me wrong...I'll take one if you wanna buy me one, but that price is a come on.
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For more proof ultraliberal are head cases see PIC below !
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https://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/bolt-euv/

https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/shop ... Code=48362
 

OdeToJoy » 14 Apr 2023, 1:54 am » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2023, 1:54 am

https://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/bolt-euv/

https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/shop ... 48362=15px.

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Have you read the fine print ?

The big print giveth and the small print taketh away.  Tom Waitts
 
 

walkingstick » 14 Apr 2023, 12:26 am » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2023, 12:26 am

biden orders makers of gas-mobil engines to be fired

That's just the first step, the next step will be to outlaw gas engines... to combat climate change.. lol.. I'm not sure what the real goal is but it can't be good, another scheme that's part of the great reset.. you will own drive an electric car and you will be happy...

 


 

 
 
 

MackTheFinger » 14 Apr 2023, 2:04 am » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2023, 2:04 am

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Have you read the fine print ?

The big print giveth and the small print taketh away.  Tom Waitts

Final cost is dependent on trade in vehicle.  Isn't that standard?


 

OdeToJoy » 14 Apr 2023, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2023, 8:33 am

Final cost is dependent on trade in vehicle.  Isn't that standard?

I have NO car payment.    LOL. so how would a 400$ a month or more save me money.  I could buy a ton of gas for 400$  
 

walkingstick » 13 Apr 2023, 11:41 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2023, 11:41 pm

future of your gas-mobil: for $19,000.00 a mexican will drive your car to mexico. only thing saved will be the frame, license plate and serial number. every thing else replaced with new items. new body, new engine, new transmission, new interior. every thing new. what a deal. for those who what a gas-mobile.

To produce ETVs requires new plants to be built, which will require a lot of construction laborers to build them, and technically trained workers to make the parts and assemble them. 

Would you prefer that ETV plants be built abroad, then?

You appear to be truly ignorant about how capitalism works.

OdeToJoy » 14 Apr 2023, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2023, 8:33 am

Final cost is dependent on trade in vehicle.  Isn't that standard?

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I don't pay income taxes.

First, you must buy a new EV that qualifies. Then you’ll need to fill out IRS Form 8936 to claim your credit of up to $7,500 against your tax bill when you file your 2023 taxes. Starting in 2024, however, the new law will allow you to get the credit upfront at the dealer at the time of purchase.

However, the EV credit is what the IRS calls a “nonrefundable” credit, meaning you can’t get more money than the total you owe in taxes. So, if you only owe $4,000 in federal taxes for the year, you’ll owe $0 after the credit, but you’ll “lose” the excess $3,500 you didn’t need.

BTW: The $28,000 price is for a bare bones' car with out the other charges throw in yet.