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peepee » 25 Apr 2023, 7:39 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 7:39 am

...all your replies show you are a monetary ignoramus with nothing of value/insight to add in any discussion of monetary realism... 

...old blathering nixon retards are out, monetary ignoramus...  ;)   

You decided being a monetary genius was better than understanding how and why you exist as eternally separated adapting equally to the moment here, correct?

...gee willikers bob, you've convinced me to turn all my dollars into gold!!! ...but how will i get any gold?!.. do you know of any dumb@sses who will accept my soon-to-be-worthless dollars for their gold?!....   

Nostradamus'omh » 25 Apr 2023, 7:44 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 7:44 am

You decided being a monetary investigator was better than being a blathering puppet-sucking nixontard [and monetary ignoramus] such as myself...

peepee » 25 Apr 2023, 7:45 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 7:45 am

...gee willikers bob, you've convinced me to turn all my dollars into gold!!! ...but how will i get any gold?!.. do you know of any dumb@sses who will accept my soon-to-be-worthless dollars for their gold?!....  :rofl:  

Look the symbolism over substance guru is being sarcastic. Oh look you had to edit my quote above this post, so you could feel you won a debate.

You really are an expert as misrepresenting actual life live, evil is all your intellectual soul became after birth.

Nostradamus'omh » 25 Apr 2023, 7:41 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 7:41 am

want an epic idea never used before by any civilization, stop working against evolving in plain sight where each reproduction regardless its species within the current food chain is eternally separated simply adapting to the moment here.

the philosophy of thinking outside the box is a metaphor for believing now isn't eternity. the mythology of Pandora's box was manifest superstition and reasonable doubt so a few get to regulate the masses believing life should be more than all evolving does here now.

the spawning of greater tomorrows began with the intellectual aids of creating supernatural caricatures of results coming out between people never accepting life in real time.

Sharia law and order creating confusion every generation gap present and added forward from here. Eternity being now eternal life only evolves self evidently here.

Why the old joke about never being lost here now regardless what geographical location one wonder off towards. Each only ever exists here now. Code speak in parables.

Cloaked speech sole, you are devolving to be a day older than yesterday and you need to think about trying to negotiate a better deal for your individual person/persons before you end up going down the road with nothing but some large corporation paperwork.

Bob » 25 Apr 2023, 7:54 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 7:54 am

Cloaked speech sole, you are devolving to be a day older than yesterday and you need to think about trying to negotiate a better deal for your individual person/persons before you end up going down the road with nothing but some large corporation paperwork.

Still trying to convince yourself your body isn't evolving in series parallel time as displaced mutually evolving forward here. You have to speculate a rotation of the planet changes everything instead of everything only changes forward now.

inverted logic teamed up with reverse psychology. Two rails of a one track mantra promising tomorrows when evolving never exceeded being alive now.

did you ever understand eternity comes from a natural perpetual motion that has a universal core to balancing outcomes arriving next all the time regardless the location universally present geographically centered in this atmosphere proportionately alive in plain sight performing their ritual system of denying how evolving happens now.

Self evident kinetics is best described by thermodynamic principles of compounding molecular content eroding or decomposing as currently taking place never duplicating a sole replacement since inception adding each conception present in ever changing ancestral generation gap form shaped here now.

Specific gravity of the global situation in all 24 time zones and climate zones north and south simultaneously taking place in series displacements prallel to each other.

Nostradamus'omh » 25 Apr 2023, 7:58 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 7:58 am

Still trying to convince yourself your body isn't evolving in series parallel time as displaced mutually evolving forward here. You have to speculate a rotation of the planet changes everything instead of everything only changes forward now.

inverted logic teamed up with reverse psychology. Two rails of a one track mantra promising tomorrows when evolving never exceeded being alive now.

did you ever understand eternity comes from a natural perpetual motion that has a universal core to balancing outcomes arriving next all the time regardless the location universally present geographically centered in this atmosphere proportionately alive in plain sight performing their ritual system of denying how evolving happens now.

Self evident kinetics is best described by thermodynamic principles of compounding molecular content eroding or decomposing as currently taking place never duplicating a sole replacement since inception adding each conception present in ever changing ancestral generation gap form shaped here now.

Specific gravity of the global situation in all 24 time zones.

  The fiat currency seems similar to the evolution theory in that the value of the fiat currency will decrease-devolve as the gold and other things that are more real stay the same.

walkingstick » 21 Apr 2023, 12:19 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2023, 12:19 am

china, russia and australia would love it. for they produce the most gold.  so usa would beg china, russia and australia for gold. the nation that would benefit the most is austrailia. they produce the most gold per nation population. come to think of it, usa would kill everyone  in australia and steal the gold. today's usa dollar is backed by the size of their military. and north korea's defense is their nuclear bombs. so. looks like nuclear bombs are a better way of backing your currency than gold.

Here's the thing about "gold".

• Other than for making jewelry, it doesn't do anything that other metals or alloys can't also do.
• It doesn't make things people want or need
• You can't eat it.
• You can't extract energy from it.
• It won't suck your dick while vacuuming your room.
• It's heavy and expensive to store safely, so it's a net drain to just own it.

On the other hand, the American Company Apple

• Makes phones people want and need.
• Builds in obsolescence into their phones so that people have to keep buying them.
• Makes $25 for every share costing $165.  So, in about 6 years, you would have made back all of the money you paid for it, and it would keep making money for you perpetually into the future.
• Invents new **** people just gotta have, driving up value and ROI

So, your gold is **** compared to what a good company is worth.  If you want to discuss two Russian metals that are actually quite valuable, then you should have chosen Palladium and Rhodium instead of Gold.
 
 

Bob » 25 Apr 2023, 8:12 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 8:12 am

  The fiat currency seems similar to the evolution theory in that the value of the fiat currency will decrease-devolve as the gold and other things that are more real stay the same.

you just won't stop changing the numerators compared against each other sharing one denominator, now is eternity.

So, your gold is **** compared to what a good company is worth. If you want to discuss two Russian metals that are actually quite valuable, then you should have chosen Palladium and Rhodium instead of Gold.

There is zero chance that an investment in gold will ever be worthless. Gold cannot declare bankruptcy, as any company could. On the other hand, investing in Apple for the present is likely to be a better investment than gold. On advice from my newsletter, I have invested in gold mining stocks, as well as in mutual funds investing in Apple, and gold has only once been a really good investment. Way back when I bought a South African Gold fund three weeks before Mandela was released, and sold it shortly after he was elected president.
On other occasions, gold has never resulted in a gain of over 5% annually.

Check out Palladium and Rhodium: they are not as great as you think. Physically owning Palladium and Rhodium ingots would be a nuisance, just like owning gold ingots and coins, because of commissions to buy and sell these.

Xavier_Onassis » 21 Apr 2023, 4:47 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2023, 4:47 pm

The Utah Gold things that Bob aka Chongo posted the picture of were not issued by the state of Utah, and are not accepted as legal tender in Utah. The government of Utah has nothing to do with making or marketing these to collectors. hey are probably slightly better than investment than Chevy Impalas and Coca-Cola truck miniatures and such peddled by the Franklin Mint.

What do you call these models made of plastic? "Exquisite replicas made of resin".

There is plenty of gold in sea water, but extracting it costs more than the current value of gold merits.
There are a small number of people in Alaska and Canada that make a pretty good living processing the tailings of mines left behind after mines closed in the first part of the 1900's. It is hard work, and the weather can make it very uncomfortable.

Do you have a point to this 3-paragraph, rambling rant?
 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 25 Apr 2023, 8:40 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 8:40 am

So, your gold is **** compared to what a good company is worth. If you want to discuss two Russian metals that are actually quite valuable, then you should have chosen Palladium and Rhodium instead of Gold.

There is zero chance that an investment in gold will ever be worthless. Gold cannot declare bankruptcy, as any company could. On the other hand, investing in Apple for the present is likely to be a better investment than gold. On advice from my newsletter, I have invested in gold mining stocks, as well as in mutual funds investing in Apple, and gold has only once been a really good investment. Way back when I bought a South African Gold fund three weeks before Mandela was released, and sold it shortly after he was elected president.
On other occasions, gold has never resulted in a gain of over 5% annually.

Check out Palladium and Rhodium: they are not as great as you think. Physically owning Palladium and Rhodium ingots would be a nuisance, just like owning gold ingots and coins, because of commissions to buy and sell these.

  Gold is not the investment it is the trade unit that tends to hold its value. Golden artwork a win-win deal.
https://finestknown.com/wp-content/uplo ... 00x400.jpg
 

Bob » 25 Apr 2023, 9:41 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 9:41 am

  Gold is not the investment it is the trade unit that tends to hold its value. Golden artwork a win-win deal.
https://finestknown.com/wp-content/uplo ... 00x400.jpg
 

How often a week do gold prices flux up and down? and that goes for each nation's currency be it Gold or Oil. Silver or any other fossil fuel. Remember fossil fuels are organic results from the past not decayed yet in gaseous, liquid, mineral form.

Skans » 25 Apr 2023, 8:44 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 8:44 am

Do you have a point to this 3-paragraph, rambling rant?

Yeah, and you are dense if you do not see it.
Utah is not issuing its own money, as Bob (Chongo) claims. The things that they are peddling are more decorative than an investment, just like Franklin Mint's dolls and Coca-Cola trucks.

Nostradamus'omh » 25 Apr 2023, 9:53 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 9:53 am

How often a week do gold prices flux up and down? and that goes for each nation's currency be it Gold or Oil. Silver or any other fossil fuel. Remember fossil fuels are organic results from the past not decayed yet in gaseous, liquid, mineral form.

Gold plus the artwork (golden artwork) may be a good investment.

 Fossil fuels include coal, petroleum (oil), natural gas, oil shales, bitumens, and tar sands and heavy oils. For modern life, these energy sources rival food and water in importance. Without fossil fuels, most automobiles are stranded, most of the lights go out, and our homes become hotter in summer and cooler in winter. But when it comes to fossil fuels’ origin stories, we might not know as much as we should. Do they really begin with fossils?

Xavier_Onassis » 25 Apr 2023, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 9:56 am

Yeah, and you are dense if you do not see it.
Utah is not issuing its own money, as Bob (Chongo) claims. The things that they are peddling are more decorative than an investment, just like Franklin Mint's dolls and Coca-Cola trucks.

If a person is a gender they are always more dense than a character honoring vernacular tribalism cradle to grave. they have more than ideas and a soul intellectual mind of we believe real isn't how actual evolving works in plain sight navigating as one of a kind here.

You got lost astral defending who you rather be, than all you been since conceived.

Bob » 25 Apr 2023, 10:09 am » wrote: ↑

25 Apr 2023, 10:09 am

Gold plus the artwork (golden artwork) may be a good investment.

 Fossil fuels include coal, petroleum (oil), natural gas, oil shales, bitumens, and tar sands and heavy oils. For modern life, these energy sources rival food and water in importance. Without fossil fuels, most automobiles are stranded, most of the lights go out, and our homes become hotter in summer and cooler in winter. But when it comes to fossil fuels’ origin stories, we might not know as much as we should. Do they really begin with fossils?

Really? Fossils come from previous organic life, correct? Gaseous, liquid, minerals come from molecular periodic elements without DNA. DNA arrives after molecular elements expanding into combinations sustaining universal perpetual balancing locations as galaxies, locations as solar systems, location as planetary displacements where conditions arrive to sustain organic living results never duplicating reproductions twice.

Now apply rule of 72 to series parallel changes limited to inverted results of erosion to expanding a food chain native to one atmosphere ancestrally working in series parallel time.

Denominator is the moment here, numerators are each part of the whole occupying space now.

Bob, you are an educated idiot that only recites what you learned to believe after birth. I discovered how life evolves without ever exceeding one reproductive position evolving forward now.

Kinetic self evident until people worship reasonable doubt as all anyone serving society needs to know. how long historically has that taken place? Dawn of recorded civilization into current events of mayhem, madness, misery put upon anyone not complying with reasonable doubt.