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Nostradamus'omh » 09 May 2023, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 11:46 am

anyone reading this, can you tell which of us is separating evolving from reality defining life beyond what evolving does in plain sight?

Xavier is suggesting I am interfering with humanity and I am discussing every reality is interfering with evolving in actual time for the concept of humanity to divide ancestries until extinction event happens.

No, I am saying that you make no sense to anyone, and there are indications that this will always be the case until you croak.

Skans » 09 May 2023, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 12:30 pm

Sorry, it's a necessary expenditure.  You have to be the king of your own kingdom.  Otherwise, the one who owns the ground under your feet will become your enemy.  You can still obtain 5-10 acres of good rural land for a reasonable price.  You need good dirt, good drainage and access to potable water - - i.e. a well on your property or a clean stream.  Then, you can work out the rest.

Some people think they can "bug out" and become squatters in a SHTF scenario.  But, let's think this through for a moment and consider:

• In a somewhat rural community, neighbors all know each other.  They know their land and they know the bounds of their land and their neighbor's land.
• They are entrenched in their land.  They have water, septic, good shelter, security systems in place, appliances, necessities, storage for valuables - and much more that would be necessary for surviving and thriving.
• Let's say a landless person of some "means" travels from the city into the rural areas thinking they can set up camp and establish their own fortified area.  No one is going to sell them land.  They would be stick out like a huge puss-filled zit on the landscape.  No one is going to help them and they very likely will get themselves killed in short order. 

You've got to have some land.  You've got to know your neighbors and tolerate if not actually like them.

5-10acres? LOL! That costs in the millions out here. Not a chance.

Vegas » 09 May 2023, 12:33 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 12:33 pm

5-10acres? LOL! That costs in the millions out here. Not a chance.

Here's the deal.  No one says you need to live "out here".
 

Skans » 09 May 2023, 12:34 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 12:34 pm

Here's the deal.  No one says you need to live "out here".

What place, that isn't surrounded by thugs and scum, can you purchase 5 - 10 acres of land that isn't in the millions?

The sperm count, globally, has declined significantly since 1970. The researchers are blaming pollution, pesticides, and other toxic chemicals. Makes sense. 

Vegas » 09 May 2023, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 12:37 pm

What place, that isn't surrounded by thugs and scum, can you purchase 5 - 10 acres of land that isn't in the millions?

Lots of places in the rural South.   Several years ago, I sold a place on 6 acres in the north-east corner of Georgia for $300K.   Just 5 miles from a nice little town too.  Where I presently live, I can purchase 10 acres with a stream through it for $500,000.  Comes with a large metal Bivouac on a concrete foundation - plumbing and electricity on it too.  Honestly, $500K is too much for that land, but I'd consider it for $350K
 

Skans » 09 May 2023, 12:44 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 12:44 pm

Lots of places in the rural South.   Several years ago, I sold a place on 6 acres in the north-east corner of Georgia for $300K.   Just 5 miles from a nice little town too.  Where I presently live, I can purchase 10 acres with a stream through it for $500,000.  Comes with a large metal Bivouac on a concrete foundation - plumbing and electricity on it too.  Honestly, $500K is too much for that land, but I'd consider it for $350K

Are there any ghetto looking thugs that roam around there?

Vegas » 09 May 2023, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 12:47 pm

Are there any ghetto looking thugs that roam around there?

None.  No ******. Hardly any white trash either.  If it wasn't for my wife, I'd never even lock the doors.  LOL, when everyone lives on 5 - 20 acres, there's no "roaming around", unless you're doing it on your own property.  If you're wondering around on someone else's property you'll get shot.  Most folks have firing ranges on their property.  Folks shoot their guns from  about 10-sunset on Saturdays and from 1 - sunset on Sundays....except during deer season.
 

Skans » 09 May 2023, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 12:56 pm

None.  No ******. Hardly any white trash either.  If it wasn't for my wife, I'd never even lock the doors.  LOL, when everyone lives on 5 - 20 acres, there's no "roaming around", unless you're doing it on your own property.  If you're wondering around on someone else's property you'll get shot.  Most folks have firing ranges on their property.  Folks shoot their guns from  about 10-sunset on Saturdays and from 1 - sunset on Sundays....except during deer season.

Interesting. I may need to take a look. The only reason we stay out here is because of the climate. I am a desert rat. I have lived in the desert my whole life. All 52 years. So, that will be a tough transition for us. I hate the culture of Vegas. The people...including myself I guess, are assholes. But the climate I love. 

Vegas » 09 May 2023, 12:58 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 12:58 pm

Interesting. I may need to take a look. The only reason we stay out here is because of the climate. I am a desert rat. I have lived in the desert my whole life. All 52 years. So, that will be a tough transition for us. I hate the culture of Vegas. The people...including myself I guess, are assholes. But the climate I love.

Well, that might be an adjustment for you.  It is generally wet here, except during drought years.  We get quite a bit of rain.  Cold in the winter, hot and humid in the summer.  Beautiful in spring and fall.  Everything is green and colorful - not dead and dry like out west. You can actually grow food here rather easily.   Pollen will just about kill you during early spring.

But, I could never get used to living out west either, where everything is barren sand and dead looking, with ugly cacti littered about.
 
 
 

Skans » 09 May 2023, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 1:02 pm

Well, that might be an adjustment for you.  It is generally wet here, except during drought years.  We get quite a bit of rain.  Cold in the winter, hot and humid in the summer.  Beautiful in spring and fall.  Everything is green and colorful - not dead and dry like out west.

I like dead and dry.  It keeps the progressives from wanting to transplant here.  There are no trees for them to hug.   
 

Vegas » 09 May 2023, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 1:05 pm

I like dead and dry.  It keeps the progressives from wanting to transplant here.  There are no trees for them to hug. 

If you hug a tree around here, you will end up with a bad case of Chiggers (they now prefer to be called Chegros), and a few ticks in your unreachable areas.
 

Xavier_Onassis » 09 May 2023, 12:31 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 12:31 pm

No, I am saying that you make no sense to anyone, and there are indications that this will always be the case until you croak.

Talk is cheap when only discussing things to believe in rather than understand the balancing between actions and reactions going on with forms and shapes coming and going never same total sum twice as individually lived and died so far.

Factual guessing doesn't supply absolute answers to kinetic changes happening in series parallel results of an ever changing personal ancestry and species at the same time.

Vegas » 09 May 2023, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 1:05 pm

I like dead and dry.  It keeps the progressives from wanting to transplant here.  There are no trees for them to hug. 

I live in maine- it's a northern rain forest- The trees are everywhere. 24 BILLION- with a B?
we sweat when the temp goes over 65!    need a tree- i can send a few. lol
 

sooted up Cyndi » 09 May 2023, 1:17 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 1:17 pm

I live in maine- it's a northern rain forest- The trees are everywhere. 24 BILLION- with a B?
we sweat when the temp goes over 65!    need a tree- i can send a few. lol
 

What temperate zone are you in? 3 or 4? Your trees won't survive 9b or I would take you up on the offer. then again the state agriculture might not let them in.

Really was a tempting offer.

Vegas » 09 May 2023, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 1:05 pm

I like dead and dry.  It keeps the progressives from wanting to transplant here.  There are no trees for them to hug. 

 
"OH, PEGGY, LOOK AT THOSE MAJESTIC TUMBLE WEEDS!"

Let's set up a bogus situation.

Some people think they can "bug out" and become squatters in a SHTF scenario.

And then let's shoot it down.

Let's say a landless person of some "means" travels from the city into the rural areas thinking they can set up camp and establish their own fortified area. No one is going to sell them land. They would be stick out like a huge puss-filled zit on the landscape. No one is going to help them and they very likely will get themselves killed in short order.

How clever is that?

ScottMon » 08 May 2023, 5:03 pm » wrote: ↑

08 May 2023, 5:03 pm

Pretty sure that you guys have no say in the decline. Why don't ya yell at a cloud in the sky?

Globally there is no decline. Our population increase was accelerating every year until about 1969-ish.

It has still been increasing but the rate of increase has been lessening ever since.

It is projected to stop increasing in the mid-2040's. Topped out at 9+ billion globally.
These are just numbers based on past data and trends.
Opinions and politics don't really mean much.

Xavier_Onassis » 09 May 2023, 12:31 pm » wrote: ↑

09 May 2023, 12:31 pm

No, I am saying that you make no sense to anyone, and there are indications that this will always be the case until you croak.

Gee, everyone minds the idea genetics cannot be limited to eternally separated now. all the science fiction and spiritual fantasies define human behavior beyond self evident evolving here now. You believe facts by consensus or actually occupying space never exceeding the moment here in your own skin as specifically as you behaved since birth obeying mob rules without questioning why you only exist spontaneously alive now simultaneously here as all people mixed up in last 5 generation gaps left.

You won't quit and I won't join again since 1982. and look I still compromised with deniers until 2006 when I started standing up for my unique time equally occupying space as reproductively here, minus the supernatural hyperbole from every institutional reality in this atmosphere.

I won't get between the corrupted trying to eliminate one another same way I won't harm the corrupted leaving me and mind alone, physically and psychologically. I can stay within either instinctively against whatever numbers they are intellectually, but will always lose physically, since I don't have enough bullets and I only get one vote limited to my specific geographical area residing at home.

5-10acres? LOL! That costs in the millions out here. Not a chance.

Where is "out here"? Certainly not Las Vegas. Most of Nevada has lots and lots of land that is very cheap.
Just with no water or electricity. Plus, it's alkali desert and nothing edible will grow there.