Trump and RFK Jr. Could be the Nominees

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By roadkill
19 May 2023 4:08 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Sumela
20 May 2023 10:20 am
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Mrkelly » 20 May 2023, 9:51 am » wrote: ****.. he is a lot like his dad

I watched his dad run, he kept his cool, he gave a damn about little people, he hated corruption in our government , and he loved this country 

and so does Jr

if you watch his announcement speech, you will see why “they” will make him go away 

just like Sr

”they” are hoping that (with the help of the liberal media) he can be reduced to being “anti vax” conspiracy nut, and he will be gone

Sadly, if that don’t work, “they” will find a way to make him gone

because he is what America needs right now .. and they just can’t have that
Did you see that Greyzone journos Aaron, Max and Anya

have been added to the Ukraine Assassination List - '''Mirotvorets'''...??
 
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Mrkelly
20 May 2023 10:34 am
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Sumela » 20 May 2023, 10:20 am » wrote: Did you see that Greyzone journos Aaron, Max and Anya

have been added to the Ukraine Assassination List - '''Mirotvorets'''...??
no I did not

 surprised it took this long

The Grayzone was disinvited from Web Summit, a tech industry mega-event in Lisbon, Portugal this November, following a personal lobbying campaign spearheaded by Ukrainian First Lady Olena Zelenska. Zelenska was the surprise keynote speaker at Web Summit, addressing conference attendees on November 1

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/11/03/ukra ... eb-summit/

 
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Mrkelly
20 May 2023 10:38 am
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Sumela » 20 May 2023, 9:59 am » wrote: Im with you on this....I will vote for RFK Jr.....or not vote at all.

I dont need a **** team or to be a part of some fake team BS.
that’s where I’m at

i will be canvassing for him
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Sumela
21 May 2023 8:30 pm
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Mrkelly » 20 May 2023, 10:34 am » wrote: no I did not

 surprised it took this long

The Grayzone was disinvited from Web Summit, a tech industry mega-event in Lisbon, Portugal this November, following a personal lobbying campaign spearheaded by Ukrainian First Lady Olena Zelenska. Zelenska was the surprise keynote speaker at Web Summit, addressing conference attendees on November 1

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/11/03/ukra ... eb-summit/
The Ministry of Truth is not coming.....its here.  In full force.
Meanwhile left/right cuckies are beating the same old dead horses
 
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righteous
21 May 2023 8:51 pm
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I APPLAUD KENNEDY FOR BEING A PROMINENT VACCINE SKEPTIC BUT

NOT FOR THESE ISSUES:  
Kennedy said "we are in the Ukraine for all the right reasons." 
AS ONCE AN ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER, HE DOESN'T SPEAK OF HIS CLIMATE GOALS OR MAKING AMERICA ENERGY INDEPENDENT, A HUGE ISSUE
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21 May 2023 8:56 pm
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Sumela » 20 May 2023, 9:59 am » wrote: Im with you on this....I will vote for RFK Jr.....or not vote at all.

I dont need a **** team or to be a part of some fake team BS.
BRO, YOU DON'T KNOW HIS STANCE ON THE UKRAINE WAR. 
SAYS WE'RE THERE FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS. NOT GOOD.

ONCE AN ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER, HE MIGHT BE FOLLOWING BIDENS PLAN TO KILL FOSSIL FUELS.
HE ISN'T TALKING ABOUT IT IN ANY INTERVIEWS 
 
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Sumela
21 May 2023 9:14 pm
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righteous » 21 May 2023, 8:56 pm » wrote: BRO, YOU DON'T KNOW HIS STANCE ON THE UKRAINE WAR. 
SAYS WE'RE THERE FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS. NOT GOOD.

ONCE AN ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER, HE MIGHT BE FOLLOWING BIDENS PLAN TO KILL FOSSIL FUELS.
HE ISN'T TALKING ABOUT IT IN ANY INTERVIEWS
Brother, you have some very valid points.  Im always open to change my mind.  
Thanks for reminding me.
 
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21 May 2023 9:51 pm
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Xavier_Onassis » 19 May 2023, 9:10 pm » wrote: Trump is a megalomaniac, he will not support any presidential candidate but his own self.
This RFK is a nobody, except for the name, He is nothing like the real RFK.

Biden is vastly better than any Republican.
get yer head back in the trash can!
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Mrkelly
22 May 2023 8:02 am
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righteous » 21 May 2023, 8:56 pm » wrote: BRO, YOU DON'T KNOW HIS STANCE ON THE UKRAINE WAR. 
SAYS WE'RE THERE FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS. NOT GOOD.

ONCE AN ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER, HE MIGHT BE FOLLOWING BIDENS PLAN TO KILL FOSSIL FUELS.
HE ISN'T TALKING ABOUT IT IN ANY INTERVIEWS
He was an environmental lawyer for decades

he is an advocate for a global transition away from fossil fuels toward renewable energy … im ok with that

he has called out the government for their proxy war many many times, I’d like to see the rest of that quote 

and besides, if his stance on Ukraine was so bad … this wouldn’t be happening 

https://youtu.be/2yMVn-w-kBw

 
 
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Mrkelly
22 May 2023 8:31 am
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Sumela » 21 May 2023, 9:14 pm » wrote: Brother, you have some very valid points.  Im always open to change my mind.  
Thanks for reminding me.
he has always been an advocate for renewable energy … I think getting off of big oils dick is a good thing

maybe others disagree, but that shouldn’t be a deal breaker in my mind 

but his stance on Ukraine is solid

https://youtu.be/5oN4W0q9XbM

https://youtu.be/2yMVn-w-kBw

 
 
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roadkill
22 May 2023 8:41 am
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Mrkelly » 22 May 2023, 8:31 am » wrote: he has always been an advocate for renewable energy … I think getting off of big oils dick is a good thing

maybe others disagree, but that shouldn’t be a deal breaker in my mind 

but his stance on Ukraine is solid

https://youtu.be/5oN4W0q9XbM

https://youtu.be/2yMVn-w-kBw
"he has always been an advocate for renewable energy … I think getting off of big oils dick is a good thing"


Then we can get on big renewable energy dick?  BTW...oil is renewable.  It's called algae.





 
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Mrkelly
22 May 2023 8:48 am
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roadkill » 22 May 2023, 8:41 am » wrote: "he has always been an advocate for renewable energy … I think getting off of big oils dick is a good thing"

Then we can get on big renewable energy dick?  BTW...oil is renewable.  It's called algae.
algae  :LOL:  renewable after a few million years

 
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22 May 2023 8:57 am
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Mrkelly » 22 May 2023, 8:48 am » wrote: algae  Image  renewable after a few million years

It's on going throughout those years. And we can create oil from algae in minutes.


Don't get me wrong...I'm all for finding new efficient energy. Hydrogen fuel is still under development for large scale use. Nuclear energy is a good option...even an opponent of nuclear energy plants years later said he was wrong...he said nuclear energy is safe and effective and the technology gets better over time.


 
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Sumela
22 May 2023 9:26 am
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Mrkelly » 22 May 2023, 8:31 am » wrote: he has always been an advocate for renewable energy … I think getting off of big oils dick is a good thing

maybe others disagree, but that shouldn’t be a deal breaker in my mind 

but his stance on Ukraine is solid

https://youtu.be/5oN4W0q9XbM

https://youtu.be/2yMVn-w-kBw
I did a search and found where he states Russia's invasion was baseless.  But he added US has no business there either way.

To say baseless means he is either lying or has no clue what has occurred in the region since Spring 2014.
 
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22 May 2023 9:34 am
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nuckinfutz » 19 May 2023, 5:22 pm » wrote: OMG! Kennedy sounds worse the Joe Biden, and look very old!
How old is he?
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I KNOW !!

It's PAINFUL to listen to him talk... I think THAT will hurt him more than anything else !!
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Mrkelly
22 May 2023 9:37 am
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Sumela » 22 May 2023, 9:26 am » wrote: I did a search and found where he states Russia's invasion was baseless.  But he added US has no business there either way.

To say baseless means he is either lying or has no clue what has occurred in the region since Spring 2014.
sounds like a stupid for a man to say that knows better 

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. accused Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and American “NeoCons” of intentionally provoking Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on Monday. In a paragraph-long tweet, the Democratic presidential candidate claimed that Zelensky could have prevented the invasion by just saying the five words “I will not join NATO.” Instead, Kennedy said, Zelensky cozied up to NATO, bowing to alleged pressure from “NeoCons in the Biden White House” and “fascist elements” in his own government. The anti-vaccine activist claimed this military realignment, along with the positioning of nuclear-capable missile launchers along the Russian border, were purposeful “provocations” designed to cross well-known “red lines” established by the Russian government. Kennedy brought his diatribe home with a comparison to the ill-fated U.S. intervention in Iraq, claiming the same “NeoCons” were responsible for both conflicts.
 
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22 May 2023 9:57 am
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Mrkelly » 22 May 2023, 9:37 am » wrote: sounds like a stupid for a man to say that knows better 

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. accused Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and American “NeoCons” of intentionally provoking Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on Monday. In a paragraph-long tweet, the Democratic presidential candidate claimed that Zelensky could have prevented the invasion by just saying the five words “I will not join NATO.” Instead, Kennedy said, Zelensky cozied up to NATO, bowing to alleged pressure from “NeoCons in the Biden White House” and “fascist elements” in his own government. The anti-vaccine activist claimed this military realignment, along with the positioning of nuclear-capable missile launchers along the Russian border, were purposeful “provocations” designed to cross well-known “red lines” established by the Russian government. Kennedy brought his diatribe home with a comparison to the ill-fated U.S. intervention in Iraq, claiming the same “NeoCons” were responsible for both conflicts.
Sounds like he agrees NATO provoked and wanted the war, but that Russia still should not invaded...?
 
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22 May 2023 10:02 am
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Sumela » 22 May 2023, 9:57 am » wrote: Sounds like he agrees NATO provoked and wanted the war, but that Russia still should not invaded...?
I know ... I wouldnt put it that way either

must be the anti war peacenik in him

 
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22 May 2023 10:24 am
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Sumela » 22 May 2023, 9:57 am » wrote: Sounds like he agrees NATO provoked and wanted the war, but that Russia still should not invaded...?
I have been looking, and I haven’t seen him justify Russias attack

but he sure nibbles around the edges 

 Washington has lied and ignored Moscow’s “red lines,” the presidential candidate has said Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Instead of  listening to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s warnings about “red lines,” the US has repeatedly crossed them, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said in an interview published on Wednesday. The Democrat running for US president also said Washington should have either invited Moscow to NATO or dismantled the anti-Russian alliance after the Cold War.“We should have listened to Putin over many years. We made a commitment to Russia, to Gorbachev, that we would not move NATO one inch to the east. Then we went in, and we lied,” Kennedy told the outlet UnHerd. Instead of offering to integrate Russia into the West, as many diplomats urged in 1991, the US expanded NATO to its borders. “What is the purpose of NATO other than to oppose Russia? If you’re addressing Russia in a hostile way from the beginning, of course their reaction is going to be hostile back,” Kennedy said. He described what happened in Kiev in 2014 as “essentially a coup d’etat” supported by the US, recalling the infamous phone call in which Victoria Nuland was “handpicking a new cabinet” hostile to Moscow. 

 “If Mexico did that and then started killing – they killed 14,000 Russians in Donbass, the Ukrainian government – if Mexico did that to expatriate Americans, we’d invade in a second,” Kennedy said, adding that Putin “repeatedly told us: these are red lines, you’re crossing.”

 
 
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22 May 2023 10:31 am
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Mrkelly » 22 May 2023, 8:31 am » wrote: he has always been an advocate for renewable energy … I think getting off of big oils dick is a good thing

maybe others disagree, but that shouldn’t be a deal breaker in my mind 

but his stance on Ukraine is solid

https://youtu.be/5oN4W0q9XbM

https://youtu.be/2yMVn-w-kBw
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