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maineman » 31 May 2023, 12:10 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 12:10 pm

He has the final say about what to do.  He leaves the "how to do it" up to the flag officers in uniform.

Obviously, you were so far down the totem pole that you never witnessed that sort of leadership.  The skill the navy taught you allowed you to earn a living?

Fry cooks make good money where you live?

mainemop ignores the Biden crime family.   Yes...I know we're all shocked.     

jefftec » 31 May 2023, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 11:11 am

…..Your deflection rings futile here.  The President has the final say.
​​​​​​…….and you’re going pretend that you don’t know  what “commander-in-chief” means???
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and I wonder... did the Commander-in-Chief ever walk into the galley and inspect the way you were peeling potatoes, or do you think his attention was devoted to a little higher altitude flyover than to micromanage EVERYONE he "commanded"?

maineman » 31 May 2023, 12:31 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 12:31 pm

and I wonder... did the Commander-in-Chief ever walk into the galley and inspect the way you were peeling potatoes, or do you think his attention was devoted to a little higher altitude flyover than to micromanage EVERYONE he "commanded"?

you never severed. 

FJB » 31 May 2023, 12:34 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 12:34 pm

you never severed.

What do you mean?  I severed the carcass of a chicken less than an hour ago.    

maineman » 31 May 2023, 12:10 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 12:10 pm

He has the final say about what to do.  He leaves the "how to do it" up to the flag officers in uniform.

Obviously, you were so far down the totem pole that you never witnessed that sort of leadership.  The skill the navy taught you allowed you to earn a living?

Fry cooks make good money where you live?

…..deflect the responsibility for what happened in Afghanistan as you will. This horrific affair happened on Biden’s watch. The results were were not good and you entered the phrase “how to do it”, not me, just another deflection maneuver.
​​​……a real leader wouldn’t blame his predecessor for the results of his own decisions.
​​​​​​……and yet, you have a problem with such a concept….dude, you give the Navy a bad name…..
​​​​​…….and dude, it was required that I have a top-secret clearance to do my duties.
​​​…..wait a second, there’s a problem being a fry cook?? …oh please, get over yourself…..
 

maineman » 31 May 2023, 12:31 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 12:31 pm

and I wonder... did the Commander-in-Chief ever walk into the galley and inspect the way you were peeling potatoes, or do you think his attention was devoted to a little higher altitude flyover than to micromanage EVERYONE he "commanded"?

…..the micromanage phenomena is what YOU conjured up. ….. from your twisted imagination.

jefftec » 31 May 2023, 12:42 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 12:42 pm

…..deflect the responsibility for what happened in Afghanistan as you will. This horrific affair happened on Biden’s watch. The results were were[sic]  not good and you entered the phrase “how to do it”, not me, just another deflection maneuver.
​​​……a real leader wouldn’t blame his predecessor for the results of his own decisions.
​​​​​​……and yet, you have a problem with such a concept….dude, you give the Navy a bad name…..
​​​​​…….and dude, it was required that I have a top-secret clearance to do my duties.
​​​…..wait a second, there’s a problem being a fry cook?? …oh please, get over yourself…..

what was so horrific about our departure from Afghanistan?  Was it appreciably different than our departure from Iraq, or Vietnam, for that matter?  Horrific is a strong word that I just don't see fitting this situation at all.  

Every president since GWB bears some degree of responsibility for our misadventure in Afghanistan.  Obama had eight years to pull our troops out, the clown had four.  Bush himself should have abruptly ended the debacle when he let OBL slip through his fingers at Tora Bora.  Biden got it done.

I never said there was a problem being a fry cook.  I assumed that was the skill you had learned.

jefftec » 31 May 2023, 12:46 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 12:46 pm

…..the micromanage phenomena is what YOU conjured up. ….. from your twisted imagination.

****.  Presidents don't write OP PLANS.  They tell the SECDEF and the service secretaries and the JCS what they want done and when they want it done by.  It's up to THOSE people to either salute smartly, about face,  and do the job, or to respectfully push back and tell the CinC that the request is unreasonable.

Miley is a **** ****** boi coward. How did he get his CIB?

Xiden's approval rating dropped 6 percentage points immediately after that disastrous, embarrassing, inept Afghanistan surrender.

maineman » 31 May 2023, 12:52 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 12:52 pm

****.  Presidents don't write OP PLANS.  They tell the SECDEF and the service secretaries and the JCS what they want done and when they want it done by.  It's up to THOSE people to either salute smartly, about face,  and do the job, or to respectfully push back and tell the CinC that the request is unreasonable.

It's just not just the weaponry left that is the issue ....
Biden is funding the Taliban ....Biden administration to give additional $308 mln in humanitarian aid to Afghanistan

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 022-01-11/
 
 

Majik » 31 May 2023, 2:28 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 2:28 pm

It's just not just the weaponry left that is the issue ....
Biden is funding the Taliban ....Biden administration to give additional $308 mln in humanitarian aid to Afghanistan

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 022-01-11/

to give?  in a link from 18 months ago?
 

maineman » 31 May 2023, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 2:57 pm

to give?  in a link from 18 months ago?

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Foreign Policy
foreignpolicy.com
Biden's Plan for Afghan Aid Hands a Jackpot to the Taliban
Sep 20, 2022 — The decision by the United States to release $3.5 billion of Afghanistan's central bank reserves has sparked fears that the money will hand 
 
 

Warcok » 31 May 2023, 2:15 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 2:15 pm

Xiden's approval rating dropped 6 percentage points immediately after that disastrous, embarrassing, inept Afghanistan surrender.

...you/your republic#nt $hit-puppet$ would still have us in afghanistan fully, you blathering foreign interventionist.. [and monetary ignoramus]      
 

Majik » 31 May 2023, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 3:03 pm

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Foreign Policy
foreignpolicy.com
Biden's Plan for Afghan Aid Hands a Jackpot to the Taliban
Sep 20, 2022 — The decision by the United States to release $3.5 billion of Afghanistan's central bank reserves has sparked fears that the money will hand

an op-ed piece from eight months ago.

I notice you abandoned your ridiculous "Pelosi called an emergency session" ****... as well as the six reps were going to vote to toss out the election results.

maineman » 31 May 2023, 3:38 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 3:38 pm

an op-ed piece from eight months ago.

I notice you abandoned your ridiculous "Pelosi called an emergency session" ****... as well as the six reps were going to vote to toss out the election results.

Funny because the Bjden Administration did allow the Taliban 3.5 billion from the reserve bank.....regardless of whether it was an op-ed or not that told you.
And I haven't abandoned anything ....
what happened after the incited protest which changed the minds of objectors and lead to the certification was the goal of the scenario as well as the vilification of the MAGA movement ...and it succeeded. 
because if you remember our job in the scenario was to affect the certification and vilify MAGA.....

Jan.6th was a coordinated false flag event....that had a plan A and a plan B....
Plan A 
Was the purposeful incitement of a protest by embedded undercover  agents and  whom also were the first to try and breach the windows more for optics than anything else while also having capital police on the inside of the building making sure the Capital was breached by merely opening the doors and allowing protesters in while also making sure one of the supporters died in the capital building by gunfire for maximum effect.
Plan B
The planting of two remote explosive devices at the RNC and DNC headquarters the night before which would have had the same effect if detonated ....if plan A did not work....
Now, let's focus on plan B....
to this day nobody has been charged for the plantings of the bombs ..
No reward has been offered ...
No appeals to the public via The MSM have been initiated by law enforcement ....axcept very briefly afterwards ...
One  image of a hooded figure  which is a joke considering how many surveillance camera's are at the capital was released .....
Now, knowing what I do about surveillance tech  deployed in our capital there is no **** way that an arrest did not occur shortly after Jan.6th unless no arrest was ever in the equation ....
Jan.6th  was a text book  false flag operation ....
and it worked.










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MM is a chink spy

Majik » 31 May 2023, 6:20 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 6:20 pm

Funny because the Bjden Administration did allow the Taliban 3.5 billion from the reserve bank.....regardless of whether it was an op-ed or not that told you.
And I haven't abandoned anything ....
what happened after the incited protest which changed the minds of objectors and lead to the certification was the goal of the scenario as well as the vilification of the MAGA movement ...and it succeeded. 
because if you remember our job in the scenario was to affect the certification and vilify MAGA.....

Jan.6th was a coordinated false flag event....that had a plan A and a plan B....
Plan A 
Was the purposeful incitement of a protest by embedded undercover  agents and  whom also were the first to try and breach the windows more for optics than anything else while also having capital police on the inside of the building making sure the Capital was breached by merely opening the doors and allowing protesters in while also making sure one of the supporters died in the capital building by gunfire for maximum effect.
Plan B
The planting of two remote explosive devices at the RNC and DNC headquarters the night before which would have had the same effect if detonated ....if plan A did not work....
Now, let's focus on plan B....
to this day nobody has been charged for the plantings of the bombs ..
No reward has been offered ...
No appeals to the public via The MSM have been initiated by law enforcement ....axcept very briefly afterwards ...
One  image of a hooded figure  which is a joke considering how many surveillance camera's are at the capital was released .....
Now, knowing what I do about surveillance tech  deployed in our capital there is no **** way that an arrest did not occur shortly after Jan.6th unless no arrest was ever in the equation ....
Jan.6th  was a text book  false flag operation ....
and it worked.

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cool story... all opinion, but cool, nonetheless.  And Joe let Afghanistan have access TO THEIR OWN MONEY in little dribs and drabs.  Brilliant.

FJB » 31 May 2023, 6:22 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 6:22 pm

MM is a chink spy

ducky is a cocksucking cracker homo.  

maineman » 31 May 2023, 7:11 pm » wrote: ↑

31 May 2023, 7:11 pm

cool story... all opinion, but cool, nonetheless.  And Joe let Afghanistan have access TO THEIR OWN MONEY in little dribs and drabs.  Brilliant.

No, Not a story ....
More like a trained analytical analysis by a seasoned veteran ....
No, Joe gave the Taliban access to Afghanistan's money..... ..funny how you cannot make the distinction.
well, one is a terrorist organization ......
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