It will end up being a waste of time. AG Garland will never move forward and charge Wray.RedheadedStranger » 01 Jun 2023, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑ The Steve Bannon case set the precedent.
Can't say we didn't tell ya so.
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House Republicans to cite Bannon precedent in FBI Director Wray contempt case
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... y-contempt
Probably not, but it will further demonstrate to the electorate that the Intel Community in this Country is corrupt to the core... and that their partisan weaponization by the establishment is real.ConsRule » 01 Jun 2023, 11:30 am » wrote: ↑ It will end up being a waste of time. AG Garland will never move forward and charge Wray.
Possibly. Or it will be viewed by many as proof the R's and just like D's and whine when they don't get their way. Remember, only about 5% of the population follow things even halfway close and put any thought into things before voting.RedheadedStranger » 01 Jun 2023, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑ Probably not, but it will further demonstrate to the electorate that the Intel Community in this Country is corrupt to the core... and that their partisan weaponization by the establishment is real.
I think that you are being way too generous on that 5%ConsRule » 01 Jun 2023, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑ Possibly. Or it will be viewed by many as proof the R's and just like D's and whine when they don't get their way. Remember, only about 5% of the population follow things even halfway close and put any thought into things before voting.
It's all they can do at this point, but you are right.ConsRule » 01 Jun 2023, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑ Possibly. Or it will be viewed by many as proof the R's and just like D's and whine when they don't get their way. Remember, only about 5% of the population follow things even halfway close and put any thought into things before voting.
No. It's not a waste of time. The goal is getting documents. Documents that Wray refuses to produce. There are 2 ways to go about this. One is to have Wray held in contempt of Congress. The other is through impeachment of Wray.ConsRule » 01 Jun 2023, 11:30 am » wrote: ↑ It will end up being a waste of time. AG Garland will never move forward and charge Wray.
For the sake of discussion, let's assume Garland charges Wray and he goes to trial. Regardless of the verdict, Congress loses ALL their leverage over those documents because there is nothing they can do to force the issue. Wray would have already been charged and tried for not complying...ever hear of the double jeopardy prohibition?Skans » 01 Jun 2023, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑ No. It's not a waste of time. The goal is getting documents. Documents that Wray refuses to produce. There are 2 ways to go about this. One is to have Wray held in contempt of Congress. The other is through impeachment of Wray.
They could get the judge to issue an order requiring that the records be turned over.ConsRule » 01 Jun 2023, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑ For the sake of discussion, let's assume Garland charges Wray and he goes to trial. Regardless of the verdict, Congress loses ALL their leverage over those documents because there is nothing they can do to force the issue. Wray would have already been charged and tried for not complying...ever hear of the double jeopardy prohibition?
Getting a conviction would not be the point. Getting access to documents and testimony would.As for impeaching Wray. Go ahead...a dem controlled Senate won't convict.
Articulate ladyRedheadedStranger » 01 Jun 2023, 11:55 am » wrote: ↑ It's all they can do at this point, but you are right.
Gibsmedat is part of our culture now.
https://youtu.be/tpAOwJvTOio
They are easy to buy.
I can't disagree with that. But, that doesn't mean we stop trying.Sumela » 01 Jun 2023, 12:46 pm » wrote: ↑ Another day....and another
"""we got'em this time!!!""" thread.![]()
LMAO. Hundreds of "this time" events over the last 30 years. ALWAYS come to nothing.
Each to their own.Skans » 01 Jun 2023, 12:48 pm » wrote: ↑ I can't disagree with that. But, that doesn't mean we stop trying.
Nobody owns it all until you let them.Sumela » 01 Jun 2023, 12:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Each to their own.
After the Trump experience I have no respect for the process, the institutions, the platitudes.
The Ruling Class/Deep State showed us they own it all. America is a Two-Party Oligarchy.
The beat Trump 77-0 without breaking a sweat.
No its not. Not even close.
think about it
RedheadedStranger » 01 Jun 2023, 11:55 am » wrote: ↑ It's all they can do at this point, but you are right.
Gibsmedat is part of our culture now.
https://youtu.be/tpAOwJvTOio
They are easy to buy.
Too late. Once America stopped questioning TRILLION$$ wars for The Elites
Tinfoil isle 9. The 911 hijackers were extremely lucky angry Muslims taking advantage of a complacent America.Mrkelly » 01 Jun 2023, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑ think about it
it was revealed that the 9/11 hijacker’s were cia recruits… what happened after that?