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Prospero » 03 Jun 2023, 4:14 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2023, 4:14 pm

Your passage has several logical fallacies, unsupported allegations, and inappropriate language. Here's a breakdown:
Ad Hominem Attacks: You resort to using derogatory language towards Biden, which is an example of an ad hominem attack. This personal attack doesn't contribute to the actual argument at hand, and instead stirs up an emotional response. It's not contributing anything meaningful to your argument.
Unsupported Claims: You are accusing Biden of serious crimes like espionage and stealing classified documents, but where's your evidence? These are weighty criminal accusations, and they need substantial proof, not just allegations.
Hasty Generalization: You make sweeping statements about supposed actions by Biden without providing specific examples or data to back them up. That's a hasty generalization, a type of logical fallacy where a rule is created based on insufficient evidence.
Straw Man Fallacy: You are suggesting that Biden allowed a Chinese spy satellite to fly over American nuclear military sites, thus implying his complicity in espionage. This is a straw man argument because you are misrepresenting his position to make it easier to attack. Without concrete evidence that Biden had any control over a foreign country's satellites, your argument is built on a false premise.
Red Herring Fallacy: Your linking of Biden's supposed actions with a "Biden crime family" is an attempt to distract from the original argument and doesn't actually contribute to your claim. That's a red herring fallacy, where irrelevant information is used to divert attention from the real topic.
Guilt by Association: You are saying that because Biden's office was near the Chinese embassy, he must have been involved in espionage. This is a guilt by association fallacy. The location of someone's office doesn't imply any wrongdoing unless you have more evidence to back up such a claim.
 In summary, your text is largely unsupported by facts and is reliant on derogatory language, unsubstantiated claims, and logical fallacies.

In other words, fail.

No split infinitives? 

Cannonpointer » 03 Jun 2023, 4:21 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2023, 4:21 pm

All I see is a lightweight on my nutsack. 

Your **** was answered by my first post - which was the second post of the thread. You choked on it, ignoring it while addressing several subsequent posts. Then you PRETENDED to address it, with a great deal of flatulence. The rest has been you chasing me around for another crotch grope. 

I see a partisan pest and a pseudo-intellectual asswipe.

Thank you; you have utterly proven my point--your sniveling anger--your banal tone, the cheap shots,  the ad nauseum  patronizing, self puffery,  a clear example; an odius but text book example of mediocrity.

In point of fact, cannonpointer...

Mediocrity becomes you.

 
 

RedheadedStranger » 03 Jun 2023, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2023, 3:42 pm

Yep... that's Marge.

I AGREE
AT FIRST I THOUGHT IT WAS THAT KELLY CHARACTER, NOPE
 

Prospero » 03 Jun 2023, 6:48 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2023, 6:48 pm

Thank you; you have utterly proven my point--your sniveling anger--your banal tone, the cheap shots,  the ad nauseum  patronizing, self puffery,  a clear example; an odius but text book example of mediocrity.

In point of fact, cannonpointer...

Mediocrity becomes you.

IS IT THAT TIME OF MONTH FOR YOU?
YOU SEEM TO BE IN A HORMONAL RAGE
 

Prospero » 03 Jun 2023, 6:48 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2023, 6:48 pm

Thank you; you have utterly proven my point--your sniveling anger--your banal tone, the cheap shots,  the ad nauseum  patronizing, self puffery,  a clear example; an odius but text book example of mediocrity.

In point of fact, cannonpointer...

Mediocrity becomes you.

Okay, fruitcake. 

How much of that is your thoughts, and how much is chatgpt?        

Coming from a dick sucker who thinks Biden's mishandling of docs is right wing talking points, somehow your barbs lack sting.
 
 

Cannonpointer » 03 Jun 2023, 7:35 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2023, 7:35 pm

Okay, fruitcake. 

Interesting characterization. 

How much of that is your thoughts, and how much is chatgpt?      

Everyone posts anonymously,  All that matters is the argument, counter, etc.  That makes your point moot.  But, that's probably a bit over your head. 

Coming from a dick sucker who thinks Biden's mishandling of docs is right wing talking points,

I'll file that one in the 'can't be taken seriously' file. 

somehow your barbs lack sting.

You're barking up the wrong tree. Focus on the topic.  
 
 

righteous » 03 Jun 2023, 7:25 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2023, 7:25 pm

IS IT THAT TIME OF MONTH FOR YOU?
YOU SEEM TO BE IN A HORMONAL RAGE

This the best you can do?   

Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 2:24 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 2:24 am

Everyone posts anonymously,  All that matters is the argument, counter, etc.  That makes your point moot.  But, that's probably a bit over your head. 

I'll file that one in the 'can't be taken seriously' file. 

You're barking up the wrong tree. Focus on the topic.

**** you and your trite, shopworn topic, moron. 

Only an idiot with zero understanding of politics would anticipate that a man with tens (if not hundreds) of millions of supporters would be made a martyr by a state that does not want to lose all credibility, hastening its demise and putting to bed any notion that it operates with the consent of the governed. 

Not to mention, after seven years of cock teasing, STILL believing you're gonna get to home plate requires a special kind of stupid. 

No one respects an idiot, you inauthentic, mindless jaw-jacker.
 
 

Warcok » 03 Jun 2023, 6:07 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2023, 6:07 pm

No split infinitives?

Disingenuous retorts have no argumentative value.  Comment dismissed. 

Feel free to refute the claim, but I think it's a reasonable statement. 

 

Cannonpointer » 05 Jun 2023, 2:31 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 2:31 am

**** you and your trite, shopworn topic, moron. 

Only an idiot with zero understanding of politics would anticipate that a man with tens (if not hundreds) of millions of supporters

Most of whom are gullible as hell, but, like all gullible people, they'll get over it right quick, and don't give me any crap about 'guns' and the 'second amendment'. 

would be made a martyr by a state that does not want to lose all credibility,

The many western democracies of the world, if America holds Donald Trump accountable for his crimes, that he, after having been found guilty by a jury of his peers, the greater part of the world will understand that AMerica believes the rule of law, that no man is above the law. It will return America as a beacon of justice, a mantle that was lost under Trump.

And so, it will have the opposite effect, but, I'm certain such a concept eludes you. 

hastening its demise

Oh please. Get a grip. Repubs are prone to such hysterics. It's really annoying. 

and putting to bed any notion that it operates with the consent of the governed.

"Consent of the governed'?  Listen to you. What's next?  The ghost of Publius descending on this forum?   Give me a **** break.  

Not to mention, after seven years of cock teasing, STILL believing you're gonna get to home plate requires a special kind of stupid. 

No one respects an idiot, you inauthentic, mindless jaw-jacker.

 Cute.  Now repeat after me: 
Trump is a sex abuser, conman, fraudster, criminal who loves Putin, the 'poorly educated', not to mention  that he despises democracy and has betrayed America
That's the guy your side wants as president.  So, you may take your penis out of your mouth, and I'd do it soon, if I were you.  
I mean, I sure as hell don't want my jaws, mindlessly jaw-jacking, that would be a trip.  
 

Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 2:48 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 2:48 am

Most of whom are gullible as hell, but, like all gullible people, they'll get over it right quick, and don't give me any crap about 'guns' and the 'second amendment'. 

The many western democracies of the world, if America holds Donald Trump accountable for his crimes, that he, after having been found guilty by a jury of his peers, the greater part of the world will understand that AMerica believes the rule of law, that no man is above the law. It will return America as a beacon of justice, a mantle that was lost under Trump.

And so, it will have the opposite effect, but, I'm certain such a concept eludes you. 

Oh please. Get a grip. Repubs are prone to such hysterics. It's really annoying. 

"Consent of the governed'?  Listen to you. What's next?  The ghost of Publius descending on this forum?   Give me a **** break.  

 Cute.  Now repeat after me: 
Trump is a sex abuser, conman, fraudster, criminal who loves Putin, the 'poorly educated', not to mention  that he despises democracy and has betrayed America
That's the guy your side wants as president.  So, you may take your penis out of your mouth, and I'd do it soon, if I were you.  
I mean, I sure as hell don't want my jaws, mindlessly jaw-jacking, that would be a trip.

sad democrats want to lose yet another civil war

Picture of Xiden's 12 yo niece found on his laptop

Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 2:31 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 2:31 am

This the best you can do?

It’s what’s worthy of you’re gibberish 
 

Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 2:48 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 2:48 am

...

Oh please. Get a grip. Repubs are prone to such hysterics. It's really annoying.

You're a pathetic hack, assuming that I am a republican.

Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 2:48 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 2:48 am

"Consent of the governed'?  Listen to you. What's next?  The ghost of Publius descending on this forum?   Give me a **** break.

Read up on it, moron. It is the assumption of any legitimate government - an important pretense. Martyring the avatar of nigh onto a hundred million voters quite negates any further pretense that this is anything but a police state enforcing the will of unelected oligarchs and kleptocrats. Your scoffing speaks to your political IQ - NOT to the argument.

Are you new at politics, you poor little thing?

Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 2:48 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 2:48 am

 
Trump is a sex abuser, conman, fraudster, criminal who loves Putin, the 'poorly educated', not to mention  that he despises democracy and has betrayed America

Okay, fine. But I also love Putin. And other than those minor issues, he did a fine job. Kept the mexican rapists at bay and everything. 

As to betraying Murka, hiring 87,000 new publicans while neglecting the southern border quite eclipses anything the orange menace ever did, hysterical henrietta. 

Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 2:48 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 2:48 am

That's the guy your side wants as president.

My "side," clown? No. It's YOUR side that wants an oligarchy. I want to burn it down - starting with seeing trump in there again.

But I don't want it badly enough to actually vote for the orange clown. Never have, never will. The Trumps and Bidens of this world can count on guys like you - not on guys like me, fruity.

Your bivalent mentality marks and confirms your intellectual mediocrity. Your scoffing at the concept of the consent of the governed marks you for a political novice with a loud mouth and an AI program helping you to spray your retardation on hapless political forums, you elevator-farting son of a bitch.

In two parts:  Part ONE:

Cannonpointer » 05 Jun 2023, 12:08 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 12:08 pm

You're a pathetic hack, assuming that I am a republican.

Your quickness to sling mud says everything about you, and nothing about me, you're just waving the flag of ignorance.. Even if I told you about me, you wouldn't know,  YOu can't be told, you're just a putz that wallows in generalities and weasel words, like the proverbial blowhard at the end of any bar in any dive anywhere, there's always someone just like you, ranting away without a stitch of substantiation to their vacuous claims.  You're that guy, right?  I thought so.  

Y
Read up on it, moron. It is the assumption of any legitimate government - an important pretense.

Well, if you had a brain, you'd know that I wasn't ragging on the DOI, I was ragging on your pretentious notion that mentally incompetents like you have a monopoly on the idea.  

Martyring the avatar of nigh onto a hundred million voters quite negates any further pretense

**** hysterics. WTFU.  

that this is anything but a police state enforcing the will of unelected oligarchs and kleptocrats.

Okay, so let's work together to prevent that from happening, you okay with that idea?   Or would you rather engage in your self-puffery, ad nauseum? 

Your scoffing speaks to your political IQ - NOT to the argument.

Argument?  Where is your argument?  You've been slinging mostly mud of late, and you've lost a lot of ground in doing it.  

Are you new at politics, you poor little thing?

You're so 'educated' that you don't know that posturing is a pseudo debate trick.  

Okay, fine. But I also love Putin.

WTF?  You love a guy who murders journalists, bombs babies and mothers in hospitals, who is hell bent on causing as much chaos in America as possible?   Any more traitorous admissions you want to confess to?   

 

 

Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 1:06 pm

 

Are you a Marge sock?

Part TWO

Cannonpointer » 05 Jun 2023, 12:08 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 12:08 pm

 

 

And other than those minor issues, he did a fine job. Kept the mexican rapists at bay and everything.

Bizarre, the 'minor issues' are anything but. Trump is a threat to US National Security. Not enough room here to debate it. But, I'll do it in another thread. 

As to betraying Murka, hiring 87,000 new publicans while neglecting the southern border quite eclipses anything the orange menace ever did, hysterical henrietta.

The IRS needs more personnel  to catch tax dodges, that will bring millions in revenue and help reduce the deficit.  You can say you are not a republican, but if the proverbial creature walks like a duck, etcetera,  it's a frickin' duck.  

As for the border, name one president that ever solved the problem of the border.  I'll be waiting.  

My "side," clown? No. It's YOUR side that wants an oligarchy.

There are the neoliberal elements (the political philosophy that most allows power and money to flow to fewer and fewer hands)  in both parties, but can't attribute that to progressive/populists/liberal-libertarians.  

I want to burn it down -

So, you're with the Bannon 'deconstruct the administrative state' crew.  Wonderful. No wonder you love Putin, he wants that, too  

starting with seeing trump in there again.

If you vote for him in mind, you have voted for him. Thanks for helping destroy America. 

But I don't want it badly enough to actually vote for the orange clown. Never have, never will. The Trumps and Bidens of this world can count on guys like you - not on guys like me, fruity.

You're tawdriness is only exceeded by your ignorance.  Biden isn't my first choice, but he isn't Trump, and he's done a lot of good in his first 3 years, much more so than Trump ever did. Trump was the chaos and scandal by firehose  president.

Your bivalent mentality marks and confirms your intellectual mediocrity.

Really?  Name anything I've written that substantiates your claim.  I can easily quote you to prove your mediocrity.  You reek of it, you can't help yourself.  

Your scoffing at the concept of the consent of the governed

See above. 

marks you for a political novice

A comment derived on a falsehood is also a falsehood. Congratulations.

with a loud mouth and an AI program helping you

One research tool is as good as another.  What, you do not research your claims?  I guess you don't, now that I think about it.   Now I know  you are ignorant. 

to spray your retardation on hapless political forums, you elevator-farting son of a bitch.

A shining text book example of the product of mental mediocrity.  I'll submit it to the Encyclopedia Britannica to update their listing. 

Glad to hear you won't vote for the 'orange clown'.  But Biden has accomplished more major bipartisan legislation than Trump ever did. Hell, in less than 300 days of his first year in office, Biden got the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill passed, a bill as historic as Eisenhower's highway project.   

Ah, you know what's worse than a moron?  One with a vocabulary.  You pretend to be knowledgeable, but, in truth, you ooze mediocrity and ignorance.  You have failed to substantiate even one claim.  You just rant and sling mud, two salient  features of your typical sad sack blowhard.  

Hell, you love Putin.  What more needs to be said?   
 
 

So much TDS on the left

Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 1:08 pm

Part TWO

Bizarre, the 'minor issues' are anything but. Trump is a threat to US National Security. Not enough room here to debate it. But, I'll do it in another thread. 

The IRS needs more personnel  to catch tax dodges, that will bring millions in revenue and help reduce the deficit.  You can say you are not a republican, but if the proverbial creature walks like a duck, etcetera,  it's a frickin' duck.  

As for the border, name one president that ever solved the problem of the border.  I'll be waiting.  

There are the neoliberal elements (the political philosophy that most allows power and money to flow to fewer and fewer hands)  in both parties, but can't attribute that to progressive/populists/liberal-libertarians.  

So, you're with the Bannon 'deconstruct the administrative state' crew.  Wonderful. No wonder you love Putin, he wants that, too  

If you vote for him in mind, you have voted for him. Thanks for helping destroy America. 

You're tawdriness is only exceeded by your ignorance.  Biden isn't my first choice, but he isn't Trump, and he's done a lot of good in his first 3 years, much more so than Trump ever did. Trump was the chaos and scandal by firehose  president.

Really?  Name anything I've written that substantiates your claim.  I can easily quote you to prove your mediocrity.  You reek of it, you can't help yourself.  

See above. 

A comment derived on a falsehood is also a falsehood. Congratulations.

One research tool is as good as another.  What, you do not research your claims?  I guess you don't, now that I think about it.   Now I know  you are ignorant. 

A shining text book example of the product of mental mediocrity.  I'll submit it to the Encyclopedia Britannica to update their listing. 

Glad to hear you won't vote for the 'orange clown'.  But Biden has accomplished more major bipartisan legislation than Trump ever did. Hell, in less than 300 days of his first year in office, Biden got the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill passed, a bill as historic as Eisenhower's highway project.   

Ah, you know what's worse than a moron?  One with a vocabulary.  You pretend to be knowledgeable, but, in truth, you ooze mediocrity and ignorance.  You have failed to substantiate even one claim.  You just rant and sling mud, two salient  features of your typical sad sack blowhard.  

Hell, you love Putin.  What more needs to be said?

HELL YOU SUCK CHINK DICK

righteous » 05 Jun 2023, 8:35 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2023, 8:35 am

It’s what’s worthy of you’re gibberish

 

Text book cop out. 

Congratulations.