Is Trump going to jail?

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By Prospero
1 Jun 2023 10:57 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 1:14 pm » wrote: Text book cop out. 

Congratulations.
NO COP OUT. 
YOU'RE JUST A CONVOLUTED LIBERAL ***. 
I PITY YOUR IDEOLOGICAL IGNORANCE 
 
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5 Jun 2023 7:16 pm
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Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 6:36 pm » wrote: Thank you for revealing who you are.  

I must say, it's rather interesting, to a scatologist.  

Hah!
Oh so you ARE a "scatologist"!!

Seems your very own ADMISSION is what we had already determined to be the case. I am sure that Butt frucking is something you dream about nightly, especially that "inter-racial" kind!!
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5 Jun 2023 7:47 pm
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Accusations of anal sex are just stupid and add nothing to any conversation.
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5 Jun 2023 11:13 pm
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Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 2:08 pm » wrote: rant words, weasel words, mudslinging,  your brain is a bucket of banality, the perfect portrait of mendacious mediocrity.  

Now go give Putin a big kiss.
Go give pedo joe a big kiss, fruitcake. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

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When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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5 Jun 2023 11:38 pm
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Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 2:15 pm » wrote: A true liberal, a true progressive, a decent democrat, will vote to make sure Trump is not elected.  Biden is the only guy to beat him.  Even Bernie Sanders voted for Biden, and there is no way in hell you can call him a corporate democrat.  
I can call him a sellout, fruitcake. Your entire progressive wing sold like cheap whores. AOC got paid, boy.
Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 2:15 pm » wrote: It's not a stretch to call you a republican.  If you're not a liberal, either you're a conservative, or a libertarian, or a neoliberal, or something along those lines, which republicans often are some semblance of those flavors.  So, calling you a republican wasn't any kind of major fault.  but, you seem to want it to be. 
That is your view, fruitcake. I'm an FDR democrat - which means I am nothing like you.
Prospero » 05 Jun 2023, 2:15 pm » wrote: FYI,  I only support vax mandates in pandemics, it's a matter of national security.  Other than that, I'm a liberal/libertarian.
Yeah yeah - and repukes only support the federal government over states rights when THEY have an excuse. Which means always.

Forcing human beings to take experimental substances as test subjects is outlawed as a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY in the geneva conventions and in the nuremberg code - to both of which agreements we are signatory, fascist. We are having to import workers from countries with no history of democracy, so forcing american women to have their babies is a matter of national security. I guess you only oppose abortion rights when it's a matter of national security, mr. national security expert.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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6 Jun 2023 1:56 am
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Cannonpointer » 05 Jun 2023, 11:38 pm » wrote: I can call him a sellout, fruitcake. Your entire progressive wing sold like cheap whores. AOC got paid, boy.
Well, lying is protected speech.  So lie all you want. Bernie voted for Biden.  You want to know why? 
Because he's smart enough to understand that voting for anyone else is a vote for Trump.   Thanks for voting for Trump.    AOC?   Evidence please.  
That is your view, fruitcake. I'm an FDR democrat - which means I am nothing like you.
Really?  I support FDR 100%, so that claim makes no sense.  I'll say this about FDR, he wouldn't be trading cheap insults with anyone.  Maybe you should try and be more like him.  

Yeah yeah - and repukes only support the federal government over states rights when THEY have an excuse. Which means always.

Forcing human beings to take experimental substances as test subjects is outlawed as a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY in the geneva conventions and in the nuremberg code - to both of which agreements we are signatory, fascist. We are having to import workers from countries with no history of democracy, so forcing american women to have their babies is a matter of national security. I guess you only oppose abortion rights when it's a matter of national security, mr. national security expert.
I support a woman's right to abortion.  There is no national security issue with them.  

No one has forced anyone to take a goddamn thing. Mrna vaxes had been studied for 10 years before they were distributed.  Mandates always give a choice. In a pandemic, the health of the nation is at stake and the is the only time I, personally support even mandates.  I will never support force, at the end of a gun barrel, that's what force is.  You are engaging in hysterics.  There is no law requiring you to be vaccinated. 

So quit whining.  
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 05 Jun 2023, 11:13 pm » wrote: Go give pedo joe a big kiss, fruitcake.
That your best shot?  



 
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6 Jun 2023 5:48 am
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Cannonpointer » 03 Jun 2023, 3:05 pm » wrote: All that you have said about tRump is fake news. You cannot prove a word of it.

Take a xanax,

Your father, Luke.
You're a phony.  
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Beekeeper » 05 Jun 2023, 7:16 pm » wrote: Oh so you ARE a "scatologist"!!

Seems your very own ADMISSION is what we had already determined to be the case. I am sure that Butt frucking is something you dream about nightly, especially that "inter-racial" kind!!
Grow up
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Xavier_Onassis » 05 Jun 2023, 7:47 pm » wrote: Accusations of anal sex are just stupid and add nothing to any conversation.
You and Andrew Gillum are more old school, right?
 
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righteous » 05 Jun 2023, 7:06 pm » wrote: NO COP OUT. 
YOU'RE JUST A CONVOLUTED LIBERAL ***. 
I PITY YOUR IDEOLOGICAL IGNORANCE
Grow up.

 
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Go off yourself. NO ONE asked for your vomitary to be tossed on the forum. And certainly we don't want your scatology discussed here either.

So WHO needs to "grow up"?? PERHAPS you need to GROW A SET as well!!
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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Prospero » 06 Jun 2023, 1:56 am » wrote:

Really?  I support FDR 100%, so that claim makes no sense.
 
How do you support someone who was likely dead before you were born, retard?

You've lowered the collective IQ of this **** 30 points.
 
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6 Jun 2023 6:13 am
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Beekeeper » 03 Jun 2023, 5:41 am » wrote: Oh, so you now want to operate on the "GUILTY until proven innocent" NAZI way of criminal proceedings!! GOT IT!!!

Fact is, YOU HAVE TO PROVE that he DID NOT declassify in order to have a criminal case. PERIOD!! THE ONUS is always to PROVEN BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT of guilt!!
Here's a fact for you:  He will be charged for violating the Espionage act and obstruction of the governments efforts to retrieve the documents. Now, pay close attention:  A violation of the Espionage act does NOT depend on any classification regime.  More likely it will depend on DNI damage assessments. 
The simple FACT that the President has UNLIMITED declassification power as the Commander and Chief of the military ends ALL requirements to do ANYTHING other than say "Its declassified" and even then, he doesn't even have to do that. THAT is the CONSTITUTIONAL LEGALITIES, of which you LWNJ NAZIS seem to hate with a passion since it totally destroys any and all **** you put out. Like above.
See above. 
 
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6 Jun 2023 6:15 am
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Cedar » 06 Jun 2023, 6:05 am » wrote: How do you support someone who was likely dead before you were born, retard?

You've lowered the collective IQ of this **** 30 points.
What, are you brain dead?  

Anyone can support someone's policies posthumously. 

what a **** moron.  
 
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Prospero
6 Jun 2023 6:18 am
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Beekeeper » 06 Jun 2023, 5:53 am » wrote: Go off yourself. NO ONE asked for your vomitary to be tossed on the forum. And certainly we don't want your scatology discussed here either.

So WHO needs to "grow up"?? PERHAPS you need to GROW A SET as well!!

Mediocrity becomes you. 

You look good in that suit.  




 
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Prospero » 06 Jun 2023, 6:15 am » wrote: What, are you brain dead?  

Anyone can support someone's policies posthumously. 

what a **** moron.
You didn't say you supported his policies.
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6 Jun 2023 6:31 am
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ConsRule » 03 Jun 2023, 7:16 am » wrote: An expert on CNNLOL just told Victor Blackwell said that the President has the authority to declassify anything at any time (and cited examples of Presidents doing just that) without following the protocols that others must follow.  He also said he, and most others Constitutional experts, doubt any court would rule otherwise as it would be a restriction of the powers of the CIC.  Like it or not, when it comes to the classification and declassification of documents, the rules that apply to everyone else in the government DO NOT APPLY to the Commander in Chief as he is the final authority on classification and security clearance matters.

That doesn't mean the President shouldn't follow protocol...it means he isn't required to follow protocol.
Classification, to a large extent, is a moot point. He will be charged with obstruction of justice relating to the government's retrieval of stolen national defense information documents. under 18 U.S. Code § 793 Espionage Act, which does not depend on any classification regime. Any sentence given, if convicted, will probably rely on DNI damage assessment, not so much their classification.  Moreover, if classification is a factor, and it can be but to a lesser extent, but only to the extent that evidence of it can be established, and, Trump has no evidence of it, the docs will be considered to be classified, given their unaltered markings. He's made the claim as a private citizen.  thing is, even if they were declassified, if DNI damage assessments are severe, it's the assessments that will be given weight, not the classification.  Because declassification does not mean he can own them, it's still a violation of the act. to steal them and deliberately not return them, and he did, indeed, obstruct the government's efforts to retrieve them, therefore, all of the aggravated circumstances per DOJ policy insofar as how they extend the benefit of doubt to senators and members of the exec branch, who are often tasked with taking docs home, all of the aggravated circumstances that warrant an indictment are present. 
 
 
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Jantje_Smit » 03 Jun 2023, 6:05 am » wrote: That's not the way it works.. you claim they got him now..
He's alreadybeen indicted in NY, and word on the hill he will be indicted by a grand jury in Washington DC very soon.  So, not clueless. 
. that is a clueless statement.. and the fact that you require evidence of the cluelessness only underscores my point... it is up to you to prove that you're not a clueless brainwashed snowflake... as I said, good luck with that...

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You do realize ad homs diminish your credibility?  Well, now you now.  
 
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6 Jun 2023 6:40 am
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MackTheFinger » 02 Jun 2023, 12:58 am » wrote: Only time will tell if he is guilty ! 

And he'll be dead before they can put him away.

When you have LOTS of $$$....appeals can go on forever before it =15pxreaches the Supreme Court.
it won't take that long.  
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