"DOJ has one big problem with its Trump criminal case, legal expert says"

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9 Jun 2023 4:22 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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nuckin futz » 12 Jun 2023, 8:10 am » wrote: But he never has shot anyone personally! That we know of. He hires other people to do that.
He can't beat the rap he's under now!

 
Doesn't have to beat it, to debunk the accusations. The persons accusing have a track record of misrepresentation of life evolving in plain sight.
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12 Jun 2023 2:56 pm
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nuckinfutz » 12 Jun 2023, 8:10 am » wrote: But he never has shot anyone personally! That we know of. He hires other people to do that.
He can't beat the rap he's under now!
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https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -documents

There are exceptions, however. The Constitution also provides Congress with significant authority in the area of national security. In areas where the president and Congress share power, Congress may choose to legislate in ways that limit the president’s authority. For example, because Congress has specified that only the Department of Energy may declassify certain nuclear information, the president has no authority to do so.
 
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nuckinfutz » 12 Jun 2023, 8:22 am » wrote: Your Ad Homs means you have no argument! LOSER!


https://apnews.com/article/trump-indict ... aa95ebfe14

Each of the willful retention counts pertains to a specific classified document found at Mar-A-Lago marked “SECRET” or “TOP SECRET.” Topics addressed in the documents include details about U.S. nuclear weapons, the nuclear capabilities of a foreign country and the military activities or capabilities of other countries.
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12 Jun 2023 5:20 pm
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The biggest problem facing the DOJ is probably the venue.
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golfboy
12 Jun 2023 6:00 pm
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maineman » 12 Jun 2023, 6:25 am » wrote: semantics.  They decided to let the lower courts' opinions stand.  If they had had a problem they wouldn't.
****.  You lied, you got caught. 
**** you.
 
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12 Jun 2023 6:04 pm
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golfboy » 12 Jun 2023, 6:00 pm » wrote: ****.  You lied, you got caught. 
**** you.
I didn't lie about anything.  SCOTUS put the case on the docket... then tossed it.  EVERY OTHER COURT over three years disagreed with the arguments of the defense attorney and agreed with my daughter.  FACT.  

**** you.
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12 Jun 2023 6:05 pm
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maineman » 12 Jun 2023, 6:04 pm » wrote: I didn't lie about anything.  SCOTUS put the case on the docket... then tossed it.  EVERY OTHER COURT over three years disagreed with the arguments of the defense attorney and agreed with my daughter.  FACT.  

**** you.
You did lie.  You said SCOTUS supported your racist daughter. 
They did no such thing. 

This is why no one trusts ANYTHING you say. You're a liar, and you have no honor. 
 
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12 Jun 2023 6:08 pm
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golfboy » 12 Jun 2023, 6:05 pm » wrote: You did lie.  You said SCOTUS supported your racist daughter. 
They did no such thing. 

This is why no one trusts ANYTHING you say. You're a liar, and you have no honor.
Of course, they did.  If they had not supported her, they would have heard the case and overturned the lower courts.
 
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12 Jun 2023 6:11 pm
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Because what you are saying is that SCOTUS read the briefs and decided to uphold a - according to you - racist interpretation of the Batson rule and not take any action to reverse it. Really?
 
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12 Jun 2023 6:15 pm
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maineman » 12 Jun 2023, 6:08 pm » wrote: Of course, they did.  If they had not supported her, they would have heard the case and overturned the lower courts.
They rejected hearing the case because it wasn't worth their time.
You're a liar, have no honor, and a room temperature IQ. 
 
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12 Jun 2023 6:17 pm
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jerrab » 12 Jun 2023, 2:56 pm » wrote: ----------------------------------------------------------

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -documents

There are exceptions, however. The Constitution also provides Congress with significant authority in the area of national security. In areas where the president and Congress share power, Congress may choose to legislate in ways that limit the president’s authority. For example, because Congress has specified that only the Department of Energy may declassify certain nuclear information, the president has no authority to do so.
Nope.   Congress doesn't have any authority over the President declassifying any document he wishes. 
 
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12 Jun 2023 6:18 pm
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maineman » 12 Jun 2023, 6:11 pm » wrote: Because what you are saying is that SCOTUS read the briefs and decided to uphold a - according to you - racist interpretation of the Batson rule and not take any action to reverse it. Really?
They didn't read any of it.  
They were asked to hear a case, and they turned it down, just like they do MOST requests for hearings.

And you can't change history with your lies. 
 
 
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12 Jun 2023 6:23 pm
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You have to prove Trump INTENDED to harm the United States.

Get serious! That is like saying that a person who ran a red light did so with the intent of crashing into someone.

The law says that those documents belong to the country. The National archive people tried many times to get Trump to turn them over.
Finally they had no recourse but to come and TAKE them, and charge Trump with the theft of things that he knew full well did not belong to him.
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golfboy » 12 Jun 2023, 6:18 pm » wrote: They didn't read any of it.  
They were asked to hear a case, and they turned it down, just like they do MOST requests for hearings.

And you can't change history with your lies.
They had to read the briefs... they don't blithely decide to hear or not hear cases based upon the names of the appellants.

And they decided NOT to bother with a case that had no merit.  

Go back to your job as a fry cook, you ain't not **** legal expert, that's for **** sure.  Dyslexic moron.
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Xavier_Onassis » 12 Jun 2023, 6:23 pm » wrote: You have to prove Trump INTENDED to harm the United States.

Get serious! That is like saying that a person who ran a red light did so with the intent of crashing into someone.

The law says that those documents belong to the country. The National archive people tried many times to get Trump to turn them over.
Finally they had no recourse but to come and TAKE them, and charge Trump with the theft of things that he knew full well did not belong to him.
The law says you have to prove intent.  Good luck with that. 

The law does not say the documents belong to the country.   Judge Amy Jackson said the documents belong to the President.
“The [Presidential Records Act] does not confer any mandatory or even discretional authority on the archivist,” wrote U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson in that 2012 ruling. “Under the statute, this responsibility is left solely to the president.”

This was an Obama judge, ruling on President Clinton keeping audio tapes of his discussions with foreign heads of state, including discussions of America's war capabilities.   

Precedent sucks when you're a liberal. 
 
 
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maineman » 12 Jun 2023, 6:24 pm » wrote: They had to read the briefs... they don't blithely decide to hear or not hear cases based upon the names of the appellants.

And they decided NOT to bother with a case that had no merit.  

Go back to your job as a fry cook, you ain't not **** legal expert, that's for **** sure.  Dyslexic moron.
Petition denied, just like most petitions sent to the court.   There was no review of any argument. 
Search - Supreme Court of the United States

You're just a **** liar who has no honor, and a room temperature IQ.
 
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golfboy » 12 Jun 2023, 6:15 pm » wrote: They rejected hearing the case because it wasn't worth their time.
You're a liar, have no honor, and a room temperature IQ.
It wasn't worth their time to overturn a - according to you -  racist misreading of the Batson rule?  Wow... those six GOP-appointed justices must really hate ******, eh?
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12 Jun 2023 6:33 pm
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golfboy » 12 Jun 2023, 6:26 pm » wrote: Petition denied, just like most petitions sent to the court.   There was no review of any argument. 
Search - Supreme Court of the United States

You're just a **** liar who has no honor, and a room temperature IQ.
they reviewed the arguments to the extent they needed to to determine that the defendant's arguments had not merit.
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Xavier_Onassis » 12 Jun 2023, 6:23 pm » wrote: You have to prove Trump INTENDED to harm the United States.

Get serious! That is like saying that a person who ran a red light did so with the intent of crashing into someone.

The law says that those documents belong to the country. The National archive people tried many times to get Trump to turn them over.
Finally they had no recourse but to come and TAKE them, and charge Trump with the theft of things that he knew full well did not belong to him.
Damn, ****, you are as effing DUMB as the rest of your NASTY ILK!!!

The PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT says that the EX PRESIDENT has full control over ANY DOCUMENTS HE POSSESSES AND CAN TELL THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES TO GO POUND SAND, along with the FBI and DOJ!!! The SCOTUS has ruled as much in SEVERAL RULINGS!!

Trust me Professor DIRTBAG, 99% of this case is going to be TOSSED OUT because of THIS ONE PROVISION OF LAW!!

Sucks for you that the DEFENSE HAS TO PROVE NOTHING and the PROSECUTION has to prove EVERYTHING, huh??

GO **** YOURSELF!!
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