"DOJ has one big problem with its Trump criminal case, legal expert says"

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By roadkill
9 Jun 2023 4:22 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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25 Jun 2023 7:13 am
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jerrab » 25 Jun 2023, 7:09 am » wrote: of course you can not verify it to be untrue.
Not MY article, ****, so it's TOTALLY UP TO YOU TO PROVE 100% its TRUE!!

That's how things work in this nation. You should learn that FACT.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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Beekeeper » 25 Jun 2023, 7:13 am » wrote: Not MY article, ****, so it's TOTALLY UP TO YOU TO PROVE 100% its TRUE!!

That's how things work in this nation. You should learn that FACT.

if you are going to say it is untrue then you are going to have to prove it is untrue.
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jerra b
25 Jun 2023 7:20 am
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Beekeeper » 25 Jun 2023, 7:13 am » wrote: Not MY article, ****, so it's TOTALLY UP TO YOU TO PROVE 100% its TRUE!!

That's how things work in this nation. You should learn that FACT.

comiing from someone who ignores the law I am supposed to be impressed????

hahaha 😀😀😀😀
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jerra b
25 Jun 2023 7:52 am
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roadkill » 24 Jun 2023, 9:49 pm » wrote: You know how those, ahem, independents can be.    Image

retitle this thread to donald trump has a big problem with the doj
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jerra b
25 Jun 2023 7:54 am
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golfboy » 09 Jun 2023, 6:49 pm » wrote: “Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President’s term and in his sole discretion, since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records.

And the judge went on to say the raid at Mar A Lago was illegal: Because the audiotapes are not physically in the government’s possession, defendant submits that it would be required to seize them directly from President Clinton in order to assume custody and control over them,” Jackson noted. “Defendant considers this to be an ‘extraordinary request’ that is ‘unfounded, contrary to the PRA’s express terms, and contrary to traditional principles of administrative law.’
here is the law, cry your eyes out.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------§2203. Management and custody of Presidential records(a) Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President's constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.(b) Documentary materials produced or received by the President, the President's staff, or units or individuals in the Executive Office of the President the function of which is to advise or assist the President, shall, to the extent practicable, be categorized as Presidential records or personal records upon their creation or receipt and be filed separately
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It would seem that some people think that the PRA lets the outgoing president unilaterally decide that the Nuclear Launch Codes magically can become unclassified personal records at the wave of his hand and that he can take them with him and show them to all his friends at his country club. Those people are dumber than a box of rocks.
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jerrab » 25 Jun 2023, 7:18 am » wrote: if you are going to say it is untrue then you are going to have to prove it is untrue.
No, ****, its YOUR idea that Trump is GUILTY and that means YOU have to prove your SOURCES ARE TRUTHFUL, not me proving innocence!!

Sucks for you that you love the COMMIE AND NAZI ways of persecution, huh??
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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25 Jun 2023 8:09 am
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jerrab » 25 Jun 2023, 7:52 am » wrote: retitle this thread to donald trump has a big problem with the doj
Our country has a big problem with the DOJ...they are corrupt and protecting the Biden family.  Are you aware of that jb?  
 
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roadkill » 25 Jun 2023, 8:09 am » wrote: Our country has a big problem with the DOJ...they are corrupt and protecting the Biden family.  Are you aware of that jb?
We are all well aware that you fervently BELIEVE that, @deadskunk.  

Hold fast to your 1/6 dreams, little fella! :rofl:  
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maineman » 25 Jun 2023, 8:19 am » wrote: We are all well aware that you fervently BELIEVE that, @deadskunk.  

Hold fast to your 1/6 dreams, little fella! :rofl:  
You do, why can't he? Your we says other whys?
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25 Jun 2023 8:37 am
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maineman » 25 Jun 2023, 8:19 am » wrote: We are all well aware that you fervently BELIEVE that, @deadskunk.  

Hold fast to your 1/6 dreams, little fella! Image

Thanx for the response. BTW...do you wear designer blinders?    ;)  
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roadkill » 25 Jun 2023, 8:37 am » wrote: Thanx for the response. BTW...do you wear designer blinders?    Image
My eyesight is great. I wear readers now, and I will admit to having put on a few pairs of "beer goggles" earlier in my life, but now, I can see quite clearly.  And, unlike you, the sky IS blue in my world.
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maineman » 25 Jun 2023, 9:09 am » wrote: My eyesight is great.

Ive already seen 8 lil girls today

that I plan to stalk and rape

 
:blush:  

:|  






 
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roadkill
25 Jun 2023 9:32 am
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maineman » 25 Jun 2023, 9:09 am » wrote: My eyesight is great. I wear readers now, and I will admit to having put on a few pairs of "beer goggles" earlier in my life, but now, I can see quite clearly.  And, unlike you, the sky IS blue in my world.
If you can't admit that Biden is corrupt and the evidence is pouring in yer willingly blind.  
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jerrab » 25 Jun 2023, 7:54 am » wrote: here is the law, cry your eyes out.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------§2203. Management and custody of Presidential records(a) Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President's constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.(b) Documentary materials produced or received by the President, the President's staff, or units or individuals in the Executive Office of the President the function of which is to advise or assist the President, shall, to the extent practicable, be categorized as Presidential records or personal records upon their creation or receipt and be filed separately
Link?
 
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25 Jun 2023 9:38 am
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roadkill » 25 Jun 2023, 9:32 am » wrote: If you can't admit that Biden is corrupt and the evidence is pouring in yer willingly blind.
No, he's willingly ignorant.  That's worse. 
He doesn't CARE what Democrats do to this country, as long as they have power. 
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25 Jun 2023 9:45 am
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jerrab » 25 Jun 2023, 7:54 am » wrote: here is the law, cry your eyes out.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------§2203. Management and custody of Presidential records(a) Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President's constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.(b) Documentary materials produced or received by the President, the President's staff, or units or individuals in the Executive Office of the President the function of which is to advise or assist the President, shall, to the extent practicable, be categorized as Presidential records or personal records upon their creation or receipt and be filed separately
He wasn't charged with ANY crimes for violating the Presidental Records Act. 
And an Obama Federal Judge already ruled that the President, and ONLY the President, decides what is personal, and what is U.S. property.


 
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25 Jun 2023 10:26 am
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golfboy » 25 Jun 2023, 9:38 am » wrote: No, he's willingly ignorant.  That's worse. 
He doesn't CARE what Democrats do to this country, as long as they have power.

Yep...people like mm are very selfish and irresponsible.   
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maineman » 25 Jun 2023, 8:03 am » wrote: It would seem that some people think that the PRA lets the outgoing president unilaterally decide that the Nuclear Launch Codes magically can become unclassified personal records at the wave of his hand and that he can take them with him and show them to all his friends at his country club. Those people are dumber than a box of rocks.
@golfboy  ?

You are correct in one thing:  The clown was not charged with violating the PRA, for one reason... the PRA is not a criminal statute and this was a criminal indictment.  He was charged with violating the Espionage Act.  The Espionage Act doesn't care about classification and it doesn't care about whether anyone has called a particular document personal or presidential.  

How's that muzzle break[sic] thing working out for you? :rofl:  
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