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"DOJ has one big problem with its Trump criminal case, legal expert says"
"DOJ has one big problem with its Trump criminal case, legal expert says"
By roadkill
9 Jun 2023 4:22 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
26 Jun 2023 5:00 pm
golfboy » 26 Jun 2023, 4:57 pm » wrote: ↑ Except Trump wasn't changing any law.
The law says asylum seekers must do 2 things: Claim asylum at the first safe country, and enter at a port.
the point is that no federal judge can change a law that was enacted by congress and signed by a US president.
26 Jun 2023 5:02 pm
You DO know that DACA itself was illegal - Obama admitted this repeatedly before doing it, and it's not a law.jerrab » 26 Jun 2023, 2:55 pm » wrote: ↑ https://www.nilc.org/issues/daca/alert- ... n-of-daca/
ALERT
Supreme Court Overturns Trump Administration’s Termination of DACAJUNE 22, 2020On June 18, 2020, the U.S. Supreme Court issued a 5-4 decision finding that the Trump administration’s termination of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) was (1) judicially reviewable and (2) done in an arbitrary and capricious manner, in violation of the Administrative Procedure Act (APA).[1]Violations of the Administrative Procedure ActIn concluding that the DACA termination violated the APA, the Court reasoned, first, that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) failed to distinguish between the protections from deportation (“forbearance from removal”) and the benefits (such as work authorization) that come with DACA. DHS did not consider whether to retain the protections from deportation even if the benefits were terminated. Second, DHS did not consider the hardship rescission would cause to DACA recipients and its farreaching consequences — and the enormous “reliance interests” at stake. The Court specifically noted the respondents’ words:
It was an Executive Order.
Please, explain why one President can issue an illegal executive order, but a subsequent President can't overturn it?
26 Jun 2023 5:03 pm
They do it all the time, and even completely overturn them if they are unconstitutional.jerrab » 26 Jun 2023, 5:00 pm » wrote: ↑ the point is that no federal judge can change a law that was enacted by congress and signed by a US president.
26 Jun 2023 5:16 pm
1. So you are saying that nothing possibly COULD go wrong and hurt the US if Donald Trump showed a document containing sensitive national security information to his club members at Bedminster?golfboy » 26 Jun 2023, 4:58 pm » wrote: ↑ I already have.
Repetition by you, isn't going to change the facts that bitchslapped you.
2. You can show me the word "intent" in Subsection 793(e)? Go for it.
3. It is your contention, then, that sensitive documents with information that is potentially dangerous to US interests become magically DESENSITIZED if they are arbitrarily and capriciously "declassified" by the ex-president can be safely stored in boxes in restrooms and ballrooms of an events venue in Miami?
Speak up.
26 Jun 2023 5:23 pm
temporarilygolfboy » 26 Jun 2023, 5:03 pm » wrote: ↑ They do it all the time, and even completely overturn them if they are unconstitutional.
26 Jun 2023 5:31 pm
golfboy » 26 Jun 2023, 5:03 pm » wrote: ↑ They do it all the time, and even completely overturn them if they are unconstitutional.
nara was no where near unconstitutional and every president other than trump respected it.
26 Jun 2023 5:41 pm
the person in the room has already testified to the grand jury and will testify in court as to what was on the document. "I" don't need to show "YOU" anything.popscott » 26 Jun 2023, 4:06 pm » wrote: ↑ Show us this "document".... link us to the audio... waving a document in the air ... not showing it to them...nothing a cross-examination by lawyers could not shoot down in a heart beat... Remember, you are reciting a one side of the issue presented to a grand jury with no opposing representation and cross examination... Yea, just like the Jan 6 select committee..
26 Jun 2023 5:43 pm
maineman » 26 Jun 2023, 5:41 pm » wrote: ↑ the person in the room has already testified to the grand jury and will testify in court as to what was on the document. "I" don't need to show "YOU" anything.
But some day you'll have to acknowledged it...and I'll be here to bitch-slap you.
26 Jun 2023 5:56 pm
So...you are saying that not only is Jack Smith lying, but the Trump PAC employee who testified under oath before the grand jury was lying as well?roadkill » 26 Jun 2023, 5:43 pm » wrote: ↑ But some day you'll have to acknowledged it...and I'll be here to bitch-slap you.
The Kool-Aid saturation is strong in you @deadskunk!
26 Jun 2023 6:12 pm
maineman » 26 Jun 2023, 5:56 pm » wrote: ↑ So...you are saying that not only is Jack Smith lying, but the Trump PAC employee who testified under oath before the grand jury was lying as well?
The Kool-Aid saturation is strong in you @deadskunk!
Jack Smith is a leftist hack...now tell me this. Does yer commie team have the goods on Trump or does my patriotic team have the goods on Biden?
26 Jun 2023 6:18 pm
Well... my team has an indictment on the clown... and all YOUR team has on Biden is wolf tickets.roadkill » 26 Jun 2023, 6:12 pm » wrote: ↑ Jack Smith is a leftist hack...now tell me this. Does yer commie team have the goods on Trump or does my patriotic team have the goods on Biden?
I notice how you decided to slink away from the grand jury testimony of the Trump PAC employee who will talk about the contents of the highly sensitive document the clown showed him at Bedminster. I am not surprised, @deadskunk, because all you ever shoot is blanks filled with hot air. I'd be embarrassed if I were you, but you're too **** obtuse to understand your own self-induced humiliation.
26 Jun 2023 6:27 pm
maineman » 26 Jun 2023, 6:18 pm » wrote: ↑ Well... my team has an indictment on the clown... and all YOUR team has on Biden is wolf tickets.
I notice how you decided to slink away from the grand jury testimony of the Trump PAC employee who will talk about the contents of the highly sensitive document the clown showed him at Bedminster. I am not surprised, @deadskunk, because all you ever shoot is blanks filled with hot air. I'd be embarrassed if I were you, but you're too **** obtuse to understand your own self-induced humiliation.
You left something out...yer DOJ/FBI are corrupt and everyone knows it except you.
26 Jun 2023 6:36 pm
I assume you mean DACA.jerrab » 26 Jun 2023, 5:31 pm » wrote: ↑ nara was no where near unconstitutional and every president other than trump respected it.
Why did Obama REPEATEDLY say that it was unconstitutional, before doing it?
I provided you a link proving that statement. Clearly you didn't read it.
26 Jun 2023 7:11 pm
and @golfboy has left the thread, or at least ignored this branch of itmaineman » 26 Jun 2023, 5:16 pm » wrote: ↑ 1. So you are saying that nothing possibly COULD go wrong and hurt the US if Donald Trump showed a document containing sensitive national security information to his club members at Bedminster?
2. You can show me the word "intent" in Subsection 793(e)? Go for it.
3. It is your contention, then, that sensitive documents with information that is potentially dangerous to US interests become magically DESENSITIZED if they are arbitrarily and capriciously "declassified" by the ex-president can be safely stored in boxes in restrooms and ballrooms of an events venue in Miami?
Speak up.
26 Jun 2023 7:22 pm
Why would I engage in you repeating yourself, over and over?maineman » 26 Jun 2023, 7:11 pm » wrote: ↑ and @golfboy has left the thread, or at least ignored this branch of it
You're a waste.
26 Jun 2023 7:23 pm
repeating truth. Three points. You cannot refute ANY of them.golfboy » 26 Jun 2023, 7:22 pm » wrote: ↑ Why would I engage in you repeating yourself, over and over?
You're a waste.
Run away, you **** coward.
26 Jun 2023 7:27 pm
Been there, done that. **** off.maineman » 26 Jun 2023, 7:23 pm » wrote: ↑ repeating truth. Three points. You cannot refute ANY of them.
Run away, you **** coward.
26 Jun 2023 7:27 pm
Here... in case you missed them:
1. So you are saying that nothing possibly COULD go wrong and hurt the US if Donald Trump showed a document containing sensitive national security information to his club members at Bedminster? IS THAT YOUR POSITION? Y/N?
2. You can show me the word "intent" in Subsection 793(e)? Go for it. I AM WAITING
3. It is your contention, then, that sensitive documents with information that is potentially dangerous to US interests become magically DESENSITIZED if they are arbitrarily and capriciously "declassified" by the ex-president can be safely stored in boxes in restrooms and ballrooms of an events venue in Miami? IS THAT WHAT YOU BELIEVE? IF SO, HAVE THE BALLS TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF.
Speak up.
1. So you are saying that nothing possibly COULD go wrong and hurt the US if Donald Trump showed a document containing sensitive national security information to his club members at Bedminster? IS THAT YOUR POSITION? Y/N?
2. You can show me the word "intent" in Subsection 793(e)? Go for it. I AM WAITING
3. It is your contention, then, that sensitive documents with information that is potentially dangerous to US interests become magically DESENSITIZED if they are arbitrarily and capriciously "declassified" by the ex-president can be safely stored in boxes in restrooms and ballrooms of an events venue in Miami? IS THAT WHAT YOU BELIEVE? IF SO, HAVE THE BALLS TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF.
Speak up.
26 Jun 2023 7:28 pm
getting your *** kicked by me has to get really tedious as the years go by, right "Mister fifty"?
26 Jun 2023 7:32 pm
you've been there...but you NEVER refuted any of those points.
word soup. gets you every time!
**** brain-damaged retard.
Don't forget I offered to go easy on your reading disability years ago if you'd just quit being such a prick. I offered YOU an olive branch and you broke it off. RETARDO!!!!
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