"DOJ has one big problem with its Trump criminal case, legal expert says"

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9 Jun 2023 4:22 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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golfboy
27 Jun 2023 8:24 pm
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jerrab » 27 Jun 2023, 8:22 pm » wrote: the supreme court rejected trump's request.
So what?  Different case, and irrelevant. 
 
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jerra b
27 Jun 2023 9:28 pm
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golfboy » 27 Jun 2023, 8:24 pm » wrote: So what?  Different case, and irrelevant.

same case. her partiality is too evident.
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27 Jun 2023 9:33 pm
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jerrab » 27 Jun 2023, 9:28 pm » wrote: same case. her partiality is too evident.
Nope.  Not same case. 
THAT case was regarding the Mar a Lago raid, and is long over.

This is the actual criminal trial, and she was only assigned to THIS case on June 9th.
Sorry.
 
 
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jerra b
27 Jun 2023 9:38 pm
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golfboy » 27 Jun 2023, 9:33 pm » wrote: Nope.  Not same case. 
THAT case was regarding the Mar a Lago raid, and is long over.

This is the actual criminal trial, and she was only assigned to THIS case on June 9th.
Sorry.
same case, same judge

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trump filed a lawsuit in federal court requesting the appointment of a special master, or independent third party, to review the records recovered by the FBI from Mar-a-Lago, and Cannon presided over the dispute.The judge granted Trump's request for a special master and ordered the Justice Department to temporarily stop using the seized materials for its investigation pending completion of the special master's review.But her ruling was widely criticized by legal experts and upon appeal by the Justice Department, reversed by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit in a unanimous ruling. The three-judge panel that reviewed Cannon's decision included two appointed by Trump, Judges Britt Grant and Andrew Beshear.In an earlier stage of the fight over the special master, during which federal prosecutors sought access only to the batch of 103 documents marked classified, the Supreme Court rejected a request by Trump for the special master to have access to the sensitive records. Trump was indicted Thursday on charges involving  the retention of national defense information, conspiracy and obstruction.
 
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27 Jun 2023 9:43 pm
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jerrab » 27 Jun 2023, 9:38 pm » wrote: same case, same judge

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trump filed a lawsuit in federal court requesting the appointment of a special master, or independent third party, to review the records recovered by the FBI from Mar-a-Lago, and Cannon presided over the dispute.The judge granted Trump's request for a special master and ordered the Justice Department to temporarily stop using the seized materials for its investigation pending completion of the special master's review.But her ruling was widely criticized by legal experts and upon appeal by the Justice Department, reversed by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit in a unanimous ruling. The three-judge panel that reviewed Cannon's decision included two appointed by Trump, Judges Britt Grant and Andrew Beshear.In an earlier stage of the fight over the special master, during which federal prosecutors sought access only to the batch of 103 documents marked classified, the Supreme Court rejected a request by Trump for the special master to have access to the sensitive records. Trump was indicted Thursday on charges involving  the retention of national defense information, conspiracy and obstruction.
were you this possessed when Snowden exposed 

Obama spying on ALL Americans  ???    :ninja:   
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Sumela
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jerrab » 27 Jun 2023, 9:38 pm » wrote: same case, same judge

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trump filed a lawsuit in federal court requesting the appointment of a special master, or independent third party, to review the records recovered by the FBI from Mar-a-Lago, and Cannon presided over the dispute.The judge granted Trump's request for a special master and ordered the Justice Department to temporarily stop using the seized materials for its investigation pending completion of the special master's review.But her ruling was widely criticized by legal experts and upon appeal by the Justice Department, reversed by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit in a unanimous ruling. The three-judge panel that reviewed Cannon's decision included two appointed by Trump, Judges Britt Grant and Andrew Beshear.In an earlier stage of the fight over the special master, during which federal prosecutors sought access only to the batch of 103 documents marked classified, the Supreme Court rejected a request by Trump for the special master to have access to the sensitive records. Trump was indicted Thursday on charges involving  the retention of national defense information, conspiracy and obstruction.
Were you this morally obsessed when Hilly

cackled about murdering Gadaffi?
 
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jerra b
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Sumela » 27 Jun 2023, 9:46 pm » wrote: Were you this morally obsessed when Hilly

cackled about murdering Gadaffi?

whatever,
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jerra b
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golfboy » 27 Jun 2023, 9:33 pm » wrote: Nope.  Not same case. 
THAT case was regarding the Mar a Lago raid, and is long over.

This is the actual criminal trial, and she was only assigned to THIS case on June 9th.
Sorry.
 if she does not recuse herself and makes obvious  non impartial decisions she can be removed.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 ... annon.html
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Sumela » 27 Jun 2023, 9:46 pm » wrote: Were you this morally obsessed when Hilly

cackled about murdering Gadaffi?
Or when Biden said he sold state secrets...1 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSOMed0nl2w
 
 
 
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Sumela
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Its an honest and fair question.
Im trying to help you find yourself and some integrity

 
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31st Arrival
28 Jun 2023 7:02 am
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golfboy » 27 Jun 2023, 7:58 pm » wrote: The word does not have to be explicitly used, *******. 
You should learn how the english language works. 

The fact is  you hadn't read the document.  You were citing the wrong subsections until I corrected you, and you didn't even know the subsections were cited in the charging documents. 
Please stop pretending like you know what's going on, when you're clearly clueless. 
**** room temp IQ trying to pretend he's smart. 
 
Look at you projecting it is smarter to ignore how evolving happens than to accept how evolving happened all to time. You are so busy predetermining tomorrow today, you won't tolerate anyone honoring the adapt or become extinct atmosphere left alive now.

Guess how karma works in series parallel ancestral behavior?

Each generation repeating its previous 4 generations mistakes combined into each great great grandchild added forward here.
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golfboy » 27 Jun 2023, 8:02 pm » wrote: Why do you keep lying like this?
if you think that INTENT is in that subsection, just quote it.
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maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 7:18 am » wrote: sharing any secret documents around the nineteenth hole COULD damage the United States.  That's why they're classified "secret".

duh.
Apparently this braindead biden's idea of a joke. Given that the guy has been on the payroll of our most threatening adversary, communist China, it is more arrogant than funny:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1673507912822521856

Why is braindead biden not being charged with treason?  He has admitted guilt!!!
 
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maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 7:18 am » wrote: sharing any secret documents around the nineteenth hole COULD damage the United States.  That's why they're classified "secret".

duh.
Evolving in real time displaced has no secrets, but intellectual minds invent them contextually to silence ancestors remaining instinctively honest about adapting in space here now..
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maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 7:19 am » wrote: if you think that INTENT is in that subsection, just quote it.
INTENT was part of the PRIOR texts and applies to ALL the rest that follows, *******!! It need not be said in EVERY subsection since the MAIN SECTION not only mentions it, but is a PREREQUISITE for any "charges" FOR ALL OTHER TEXT BELOW IT.

THAT'S how legal texts have been written for CENTURIES, ASSHOLE!!
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28 Jun 2023 8:03 am
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The DOJ has ANOTHER problem they will find it not only DAMAGING to their case, but ALSO disqualifiying much of their "evidence" as well.

The LEAKS that they make of the Trump Tape will PREJUDICE any jury and will be TOTALLY EXCLUDED as any presentable evidence. You can bet THAT motion is in the works NOW.

AND not having any of the DOCUMENTS that allegedly Trump had and was discussing means it's TOTALLY **** and will be excluded from trial.
 
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golfboy » 27 Jun 2023, 7:58 pm » wrote: The word does not have to be explicitly used, *******. 
You should learn how the english language works. 

The fact is  you hadn't read the document.  You were citing the wrong subsections until I corrected you, and you didn't even know the subsections were cited in the charging documents. 
Please stop pretending like you know what's going on, when you're clearly clueless. 
**** room temp IQ trying to pretend he's smart.
subsections (a) and (b) explicitly use the words "purpose" and "intent"  
subsections (c) mentions "purpose" but NOT "intent"
subsection (e), the one in the indictment, uses neither.  It only says, "the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States".
subsection (f), by the way, does not even require "reason to believe" but only "gross negligence"

If I wave my loaded pistol out of the window of my speeding car, I realize I COULD possibly injure some random pedestrian or passenger in another car.  No intent, just negligence.

If I stop the car, get out, and point the gun directly at a little old lady on the sidewalk, I INTEND to cause her injury.

Can you see the difference, @golfboy ?  Did you read this far?   Image  
 
 
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maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 8:08 am » wrote: subsections (a) and (b) explicitly use the words "purpose" and "intent"  
subsections (c) mentions "purpose" but NOT "intent"
subsection (e), the one in the indictment, uses neither.  It only says, "the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States".
subsection (f), by the way, does not even require "reason to believe" but only "gross negligence"

If I wave my loaded pistol out of the window of my speeding car, I realize I COULD possibly injure some random pedestrian or passenger in another car.  No intent, just negligence.

If I stop the car, get out, and point the gun directly at a little old lady on the sidewalk, I INTEND to cause her injury.

Can you see the difference, @golfboy ?  Did you read this far?   Image
Here's what you ARE NOT understanding ****.

TRUMP was NOT CHARGED under any Espionage Act "crime". YOUR HANDLERS want you to THINK he was, AND there is NOTHING in the indictment that claims ANY CRIME UNDER THAT ACT, **** COWARD!!

AND he had FULL AUTHORITY TO HAVE POSSESSION OF ANY CLASSIFIED OR "SECRET" DOCUMENT OF ANY KIND AS PRESIDENT!!

NOW GO **** YOURSELF, ASSWIPER!! YOU JUST HAD YOUR *** BLOODIED AND HANDED TO YOU IN YOUR HAT!!
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