"DOJ has one big problem with its Trump criminal case, legal expert says"

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9 Jun 2023 4:22 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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RayJJohnson » 28 Jun 2023, 9:11 am » wrote: This hits the nail on the head.
EXACTLY!!!

The Trump BS is totally a ruse to divert from Biden's TREASON!!

And the LWNJ's REFUSE to see it. @maineman  is the BIGGEST LOSER and JOKE of them all in trying to deflect.
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roadkill » 28 Jun 2023, 9:14 am » wrote: You have a right to yer own opinion but not yer own facts.

Why do you think the swamp and their media are so desperate to stop Trump...because Trump was exposing our corrupt government.

I didn't say he wasn't exposing them. You just didn't like the fact that I called Trump a moron. This is the problem I have with you Trumpkins. You are fanatics over him. It is friking annoying and scary. I loved Trump as president. I loved his policies. I am pissed at him that he could not shut his **** mouth and beat Biden. Trump actually lost to a potato-headed mush-mouthed Crayon eater. And don't hit me with the election was stolen ****, because it wasn't. There was illegal stuff going on and media manipulation but it wasn't enough to change the outcome. You are just going to have to come to terms that there were a lot of independents that just did not like Trump's style and so they voted for the **** Biden. 

The thing I hate about Trump is he destroyed conservatism. He ushered in this populist protectionist big government ideology ****. Conservatives like me are left wondering what ever happened to smaller government. 
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Ray J Johnson
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Beekeeper » 28 Jun 2023, 9:19 am » wrote: EXACTLY!!!

The Trump BS is totally a ruse to divert from Biden's TREASON!!

And the LWNJ's REFUSE to see it. @maineman  is the BIGGEST LOSER and JOKE of them all in trying to deflect.
Not just Biden's treason but keep Trump out of the white house. 
 
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RayJJohnson » 28 Jun 2023, 9:22 am » wrote: Not just Biden's treason but keep Trump out of the white house.
IMHO, keeping the clown out of the oval office ought to be the number one priority for every patriotic American.
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RayJJohnson » 28 Jun 2023, 9:22 am » wrote: Not just Biden's treason but keep Trump out of the white house.
Exactly. Hard to get exercised about Trump having some documents when Biden and his crackhead son have sold out America. How many have died...how much wealth lost to enrich the Biden family?
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RayJJohnson » 28 Jun 2023, 9:21 am » wrote: I didn't say he wasn't exposing them. You just didn't like the fact that I called Trump a moron. This is the problem I have with you Trumpkins. You are fanatics over him. It is friking annoying and scary. I loved Trump as president. I loved his policies. I am pissed at him that he could not shut his **** mouth and beat Biden. Trump actually lost to a potato-headed mush-mouthed Crayon eater. And don't hit me with the election was stolen ****, because it wasn't. There was illegal stuff going on and media manipulation but it wasn't enough to change the outcome. You are just going to have to come to terms that there were a lot of independents that just did not like Trump's style and so they voted for the **** Biden. 

The thing I hate about Trump is he destroyed conservatism. He ushered in this populist protectionist big government ideology ****. Conservatives like me are left wondering what ever happened to smaller government.

We can agree to disagree.  
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maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 9:29 am » wrote: IMHO, keeping the clown out of the oval office ought to be the number one priority for every patriotic American.
And to think YOU voted for an INFLUENCE PEDDLING, TREASONOUS PIECE OF **** IN bye-DUMB!! Not to mention his ENTIRE FAMILY was in on the TREASON!!

You are so proud of that fact, huh, YELLOW BELLY, WHORE DAUGHTER PEDDLING PIECE OF BABY **** COWARD!!
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 9:11 am » wrote: and I have to tell you... you are the lone exception to my rule.  You fill all the requirements of admission to my ignore list, but, because I KNOW you suffer from a fairly profound reading disability, I feel some degree of compassion for you and treat you differently than the rest of the MAGA morons on here.
I have no reading disability and of course you claim you don't lie, yet here we are. 
 
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maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 9:08 am » wrote: found intent in 793(e) yet?
Yes.  Sadly simple English escapes your stupidity.
 
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maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 9:07 am » wrote: of course he is, that is what 793 (e) is all about  somebody who "willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it"
So once again, mainbitch displays his ignorance of the facts of this case. 
News yesterday, even on CBS that Trump wasn't charged regarding any of those documents, and the DoJ doesn't even HAVE those documents. 

It really is stunning how often you have to be corrected about this case.


(3) Catherine Herridge on Twitter: "Former President Trump heard in audio recording seeming to show and discuss secret documents at his NJ golf club. The Iran memo isn't among the records underlying Trump’s illegal retention charges, a source confirms @CBSNews https://t.co/UgPQeRRPYt" / Twitter
 
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maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 9:04 am » wrote: running away from the text of the statute isn't going to suddenly make you right.

If you could prove me wrong, you would have by now.
I have proven you wrong, repeatedly. 
And then you do what you ALWAYS do, just repeat your lie, hoping it will somehow come true. 

 
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golfboy » 28 Jun 2023, 10:12 am » wrote: I have proven you wrong, repeatedly. 
And then you do what you ALWAYS do, just repeat your lie, hoping it will somehow come true.
transference.

I have proven to you that intent is not in the subsection named in the indictment.  I have shown you that it IS listed in other sections not cited in the indictment.

You should actually prove me wrong and not just falsely claim that you already have.

Simply stated, having a reason to believe that something might damage the United States is not the same as having the intent to damage the United States.
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maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 9:29 am » wrote: IMHO, keeping the clown out of the oval office ought to be the number one priority for every patriotic American.
Even if it means doing it in a highly corrupt way? Why go after Trump for documents when so many others also had similarly classified documents? You only do that when you want to eliminate opposition, just like 3rd world dictatorships. What you are applauding is evil and anti-American. 

The main problem is why do so many public officials have so many classified documents in their homes? This shows a high level of corruption in our government and going after one particular person for this shows the level of corruption is deeper than we ever knew. 

Why is Trump so bad? What did he do as president that harmed the country?
 
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golfboy » 28 Jun 2023, 10:08 am » wrote: I have no reading disability and of course you claim you don't lie, yet here we are.
Intent is not required to violate subsection 793 (e).

 
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golfboy » 28 Jun 2023, 10:11 am » wrote: So once again, mainbitch displays his ignorance of the facts of this case. 
News yesterday, even on CBS that Trump wasn't charged regarding any of those documents, and the DoJ doesn't even HAVE those documents. 

It really is stunning how often you have to be corrected about this case.

 
this case isn't about one Iran document.  There are 31 documents listed.  According to the indictment, he violated 793 (e) with respect to all of them.
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maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 10:22 am » wrote: this case isn't about one Iran document.  There are 31 documents listed.  According to the indictment, he violated 793 (e) with respect to all of them.
Your statement was about his showing off documents at the golf club. 
Once again, you've been shown to have been spouting ****, without knowing what you're talking about. 

Now of course, you want to regroup and change the subject, instead of just admitting you were wrong. 
 
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maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 10:18 am » wrote: Intent is not required to violate subsection 793 (e).
Repeating your lie isn't going to make it come true. 
 
 
 
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maineman » 26 Jun 2023, 7:27 pm » wrote: Here... in case you missed them:

1. So you are saying that nothing possibly COULD go wrong and hurt the US if Donald Trump showed a document containing sensitive national security information to his club members at Bedminster? IS THAT YOUR POSITION? Y/N?
And mainbitch SILL won't admit he didn't know WTF he was talking about. 
 
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RayJJohnson » 28 Jun 2023, 10:18 am » wrote: Even if it means doing it in a highly corrupt way? Why go after Trump for documents when so many others also had similarly classified documents? You only do that when you want to eliminate opposition, just like 3rd world dictatorships. What you are applauding is evil and anti-American. 

The main problem is why do so many public officials have so many classified documents in their homes? This shows a high level of corruption in our government and going after one particular person for this shows the level of corruption is deeper than we ever knew. 

Why is Trump so bad? What did he do as president that harmed the country?
There is nothing corrupt about prosecuting the clown for violations of the law regarding gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.

What did he do to harm America?

IMHO, he:
1.  nearly destroyed our relationships with our NATO allies.
2. severely weakened our ability to work cooperatively with our allies on the Pacific Rim, South Korea in particular
3.  twiddled his thumbs while COVID swept through the land, always treating it like a political public relations issue rather than a nonpartisan public health  emergency,
4. totally **** up SCOTUS

 
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