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"DOJ has one big problem with its Trump criminal case, legal expert says"
"DOJ has one big problem with its Trump criminal case, legal expert says"
By roadkill
9 Jun 2023 4:22 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
28 Jun 2023 3:59 pm
What do you think this article says?maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 2:14 pm » wrote: ↑ https://radaronline.com/p/donald-trump- ... -call-log/
show me anything to refute it.
https://www.biasly.com/sources/radaronline-bias-rating/
28 Jun 2023 3:59 pm
That's because he's being targeted differently.jerrab » 28 Jun 2023, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑ trump's legal defense is always the same- but but what about hillary? but but what about biden?
It's a valid question.
28 Jun 2023 4:03 pm
that security at Mar-a-Lago is pretty **** lax.
28 Jun 2023 4:05 pm
Why don't you go down, and test it?
28 Jun 2023 4:15 pm
golfboy » 28 Jun 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑ That's because he's being targeted differently.
It's a valid question.
explain how.
28 Jun 2023 4:21 pm
Hillary violated the law, as Comey explained, and said "no prosecutor would charge her".
Biden STILL has thousands of boxes of records, that he had no right to, locked up at Univ of Delaware and refuses to release them.
Trump was IMPEACHED for suggesting Ukraine investigate Biden for things which Trump was 100% correct about. But Biden can investigate Trump all he wants.
Should I continue?
28 Jun 2023 4:23 pm
I looked up the exact charges Trump and his aide face in Florida.
(As I did I felt my dead mother’s gaze over my shoulder.
)https://www.npr.org/2023/06/09/11813408 ... ts-charges
It is classic banana republic third world to charge the loser of an election with crimes. The optics of prosecuting Trump are bad. No matter how much of a narcissist and con man and utterly contemptible demagogue Trump is, 70 million of us voted for the no good bastard, and typically Trump would be setting up a presidential library by now. Why did Garland prosecute Trump?
Here’s my take on why.
Somewhere in America is the smallest town with a single night watchman.
The town has a law, the beer joint must close at one am.
The night watchman on his rounds, sees the tavern open at 2 am.
The night watchman goes inside and says, time to close up.
And the owner says **** you, and the horse you rode in on.
If the law doesn’t win that exchange America is done for.
The least officer in the smallest town, cannot ever even once be scorned, or else somebody is beyond the reach of the law.
The next President will act like Mike Pence and Joe Biden when the archives ask for their records.
28 Jun 2023 4:36 pm
trump kept all governent documents, refused to give them back and lied about it.golfboy » 28 Jun 2023, 4:21 pm » wrote: ↑ Hillary violated the law, as Comey explained, and said "no prosecutor would charge her".
Biden STILL has thousands of boxes of records, that he had no right to, locked up at Univ of Delaware and refuses to release them.
Trump was IMPEACHED for suggesting Ukraine investigate Biden for things which Trump was 100% correct about. But Biden can investigate Trump all he wants.
Should I continue?
then he claims nara allowed him to do it which is a lie, nara is so that presidents give all government records when they leave office, that is the purpose of nara.
shall I continue?
28 Jun 2023 5:06 pm
Joe has kept all the government documents at U of Del and has refused to give them back, and has lied about it.jerrab » 28 Jun 2023, 4:36 pm » wrote: ↑ trump kept all governent documents, refused to give them back and lied about it.
then he claims nara allowed him to do it which is a lie, nara is so that presidents give all government records when they leave office, that is the purpose of nara.
shall I continue?
And as repeatedly explained to you, the PRA allows Trump to determine what papers are his, and which belong to the government.
If you think you have any more ideas, feel free. I've already debunked them all anyway.
28 Jun 2023 5:25 pm
------------------------------------------------------------------golfboy » 28 Jun 2023, 5:06 pm » wrote: ↑ Joe has kept all the government documents at U of Del and has refused to give them back, and has lied about it.
And as repeatedly explained to you, the PRA allows Trump to determine what papers are his, and which belong to the government.
If you think you have any more ideas, feel free. I've already debunked them all anyway.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-indict ... 52638daebf
Here are the facts.CLAIM: The Presidential Records Act gives a president the right to take any record when leaving office and declare them personal.THE FACTS: That’s a flagrant misreading of the law, legal experts say.The law, which took effect in 1981, requires the preservation of White House documents as property of the U.S. government.Jason R. Baron, a former director of litigation at the National Archives and Records Administration, said that the notion that a president could declare any record as personal goes against the “very reason” the law was created. NARA is the federal record-keeper and the agency that repeatedly sought the documents kept by Trump.Congress passed the act in 1978 in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, when a collection of secret tapes that President Richard Nixon had considered destroying played a defining role.
28 Jun 2023 5:37 pm
why don't you answer my question about providing a link that would verify that Secret Service stays encamped at Mar-a-Lago when the clown is not there, and that they encamped at Rancho del Cielo, and Walker's Point, and Prairie Chapel when their residents were not there?
28 Jun 2023 5:44 pm
maineman » 28 Jun 2023, 5:37 pm » wrote: ↑ why don't you answer my question about providing a link that would verify that Secret Service stays encamped at Mar-a-Lago when the clown is not there, and that they encamped at Rancho del Cielo, and Walker's Point, and Prairie Chapel when their residents were not there?
Poor MM, so ashamed of his skank
28 Jun 2023 6:21 pm
I would love to hear about that old man going to Mara Lago and testing the security and coming home in a garbage bag.
28 Jun 2023 8:33 pm
Judge Jackson says you're wrong.jerrab » 28 Jun 2023, 5:25 pm » wrote: ↑ ------------------------------------------------------------------
https://apnews.com/article/trump-indict ... 52638daebf
Here are the facts.CLAIM: The Presidential Records Act gives a president the right to take any record when leaving office and declare them personal.THE FACTS: That’s a flagrant misreading of the law, legal experts say.The law, which took effect in 1981, requires the preservation of White House documents as property of the U.S. government.Jason R. Baron, a former director of litigation at the National Archives and Records Administration, said that the notion that a president could declare any record as personal goes against the “very reason” the law was created. NARA is the federal record-keeper and the agency that repeatedly sought the documents kept by Trump.Congress passed the act in 1978 in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, when a collection of secret tapes that President Richard Nixon had considered destroying played a defining role.
“Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records”
This was also the position of the Obama Justice Department.
It only changed now, for Trump.
28 Jun 2023 9:45 pm
golfboy » 28 Jun 2023, 8:33 pm » wrote: ↑ Judge Jackson says you're wrong.
“Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records”
This was also the position of the Obama Justice Department.
It only changed now, for Trump.
judge jackson was wrong.
get it?
28 Jun 2023 10:06 pm
https://apnews.com/article/trump-indict ... 52638daebfgolfboy » 28 Jun 2023, 8:33 pm » wrote: ↑ Judge Jackson says you're wrong.
“Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records”
This was also the position of the Obama Justice Department.
It only changed now, for Trump.
Legal experts this week also dismissed those arguments. Margulies, of Roger Williams University, said the claim “mixes apples and oranges.”“The Clinton materials were audiotapes of conversations with an historian that incidentally recorded some calls on official business,” he wrote. “In contrast, the documents that Trump kept were all presidential records from the moment they arrived at the Oval Office from other parts of the government.”
Eric Freedman, a professor at Hofstra University’sE School of Law in Hempstead, New York, also noted that a federal appeals court has already rejected similar arguments raised by Trump’s legal team as it sought to block the criminal investigation into the records found at Mar-a-Lago.
28 Jun 2023 10:10 pm
---------------------------------CLAIM: The Presidential Records Act gives a president the right to take any record when leaving office and declare them personal.THE FACTS: That’s a flagrant misreading of the law, legal experts say.The law, which took effect in 1981, requires the preservation of White House documents as property of the U.S. government.Jason R. Baron, a former director of litigation at the National Archives and Records Administration, said that the notion that a president could declare any record as personal goes against the “very reason” the law was created. NARA is the federal record-keeper and the agency that repeatedly sought the documents kept by Trump.Congress passed the act in 1978 in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, when a collection of secret tapes that President Richard Nixon had considered destroying played a defining role.golfboy » 28 Jun 2023, 8:33 pm » wrote: ↑ Judge Jackson says you're wrong.
“Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records”
This was also the position of the Obama Justice Department.
It only changed now, for Trump.
CLAIM: The Presidential Records Act gives a president the right to take any record when leaving office and declare them personal.THE FACTS: That’s a flagrant misreading of the law, legal experts say.The law, which took effect in 1981, requires the preservation of White House documents as property of the U.S. government.Jason R. Baron, a former director of litigation at the National Archives and Records Administration, said that the notion that a president could declare any record as personal goes against the “very reason” the law was created. NARA is the federal record-keeper and the agency that repeatedly sought the documents kept by Trump.Congress passed the act in 1978 in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, when a collection of secret tapes that President Richard Nixon had considered destroying played a defining role.
28 Jun 2023 10:11 pm
Is Trump yer deepest obsession ever??jerrab » 28 Jun 2023, 10:10 pm » wrote: ↑ ---------------------------------CLAIM: The Presidential Records Act gives a president the right to take any record when leaving office and declare them personal.THE FACTS: That’s a flagrant misreading of the law, legal experts say.The law, which took effect in 1981, requires the preservation of White House documents as property of the U.S. government.Jason R. Baron, a former director of litigation at the National Archives and Records Administration, said that the notion that a president could declare any record as personal goes against the “very reason” the law was created. NARA is the federal record-keeper and the agency that repeatedly sought the documents kept by Trump.Congress passed the act in 1978 in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, when a collection of secret tapes that President Richard Nixon had considered destroying played a defining role.
28 Jun 2023 10:13 pm
golfboy » 28 Jun 2023, 8:33 pm » wrote: ↑ Judge Jackson says you're wrong.
“Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records”
This was also the position of the Obama Justice Department.
It only changed now, for Trump.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-indict ... 52638daebf
28 Jun 2023 10:15 pm
I just hate cheaters and liars and the people who worship them and protect them no matter what.
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