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"DOJ has one big problem with its Trump criminal case, legal expert says"
"DOJ has one big problem with its Trump criminal case, legal expert says"
By roadkill
9 Jun 2023 4:22 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
29 Jun 2023 7:28 pm
As I said, like you, he has unwavering beliefs and doesn't even know the facts.maineman » 29 Jun 2023, 7:26 pm » wrote: ↑ two different judges...two different opinions. guess the issue remains unresolved until a higher court splits the baby.
29 Jun 2023 7:30 pm
no intent to harm America in the applicable portions of that subsection. you LIED.golfboy » 29 Jun 2023, 7:28 pm » wrote: ↑ I have, repeatedly. I'm done repeating myself because you think somehow if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes true.
It's what you always do, and I'm done playing the game.
29 Jun 2023 7:32 pm
29 Jun 2023 7:34 pm
seriously... do you not understand the meaning of the word, OR?
29 Jun 2023 7:38 pm
Not going to work. New rules *******.maineman » 29 Jun 2023, 7:34 pm » wrote: ↑ seriously... do you not understand the meaning of the word, OR?
You get one answer and I'll not repeat myself.
29 Jun 2023 7:39 pm
the supreme court proved both jackson and cannon were wrong.golfboy » 29 Jun 2023, 7:21 pm » wrote: ↑ That was judge Cannon. Judge Jackson ruled on the Presidential Records Act, that the President, and ONLY the President decides what records are his, and which belong to the government.
29 Jun 2023 7:41 pm
Just stop. Educate yourself because this is just embarrassing.jerrab » 29 Jun 2023, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑ the supreme court proved both jackson and cannon were wrong.
29 Jun 2023 7:43 pm
793(e) is totally on point. It does NOT require intent to harm the US.golfboy » 29 Jun 2023, 7:38 pm » wrote: ↑ Not going to work. New rules *******.
You get one answer and I'll not repeat myself.
You lose.
Again.
and Again.
and Again.
29 Jun 2023 7:57 pm
maineman » 29 Jun 2023, 7:43 pm » wrote: ↑ 793(e) is totally on point. It does NOT require intent to harm the US.
You lose.
Again.
and Again.
and Again.
29 Jun 2023 8:00 pm
run away, little boy. It's all you have left.
29 Jun 2023 8:50 pm
golfboy » 29 Jun 2023, 7:41 pm » wrote: ↑ Just stop. Educate yourself because this is just embarrassing.
can't you see the jackson ruling was wrong after all this?
are you really this dense?
if the jackson ruling was valid no judge would have someone trump did not want to go thru the documents.
and the judge ruled against him because they are not his documents.
you are sooooo dumb.
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29 Jun 2023 8:54 pm
Sorry, but what do you mean by "if the Jackson ruling was valid"?jerrab » 29 Jun 2023, 8:50 pm » wrote: ↑ can't you see the jackson ruling was wrong after all this?
are you really this dense?
if the jackson ruling was valid no judge would have someone trump did not want to go thru the documents.
and the judge ruled against him because they are not his documents.
you are sooooo dumb.
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What invalidated it? A subsequent ruling? No.
The Obama DoJ who used that ruling a decade later?
29 Jun 2023 8:58 pm
golfboy » 29 Jun 2023, 8:54 pm » wrote: ↑ Sorry, but what do you mean by "if the Jackson ruling was valid"?
What invalidated it? A subsequent ruling? No.
The Obama DoJ who used that ruling a decade later?
everything invalidated it dumb ***.
the documents are not his. it has been established by the supreme court,
29 Jun 2023 8:59 pm
No, SCOTUS hasn't ruled on to whom the papers belong.jerrab » 29 Jun 2023, 8:58 pm » wrote: ↑ everything invalidated it dumb ***.
the documents are not his. it has been established by the supreme court,
Sorry. You really need to quit making **** up.
29 Jun 2023 9:00 pm
golfboy » 29 Jun 2023, 8:54 pm » wrote: ↑ Sorry, but what do you mean by "if the Jackson ruling was valid"?
What invalidated it? A subsequent ruling? No.
The Obama DoJ who used that ruling a decade later?
your post makes no sense.
what obama doj used that ruling a decade later?
29 Jun 2023 9:02 pm
golfboy » 29 Jun 2023, 8:59 pm » wrote: ↑ No, SCOTUS hasn't ruled on to whom the papers belong.
Sorry. You really need to quit making **** up.
it ruled they were not his and he cannot decide who can look at them. if they were his he would decide who looks at them.
29 Jun 2023 9:16 pm
There was never any such ruling.jerrab » 29 Jun 2023, 9:02 pm » wrote: ↑ it ruled they were not his and he cannot decide who can look at them. if they were his he would decide who looks at them.
You have no idea what you're talking about and you're just making **** up.
29 Jun 2023 9:21 pm
You forgot about Obama taking 30 MILLION pages of records to a warehouse in Chicago, where he planned to digitize them for his library?jerrab » 29 Jun 2023, 9:00 pm » wrote: ↑ your post makes no sense.
what obama doj used that ruling a decade later?
The DoJ used Judge Jackson's ruling to permit him to do that.
29 Jun 2023 10:06 pm
-----------------------------golfboy » 29 Jun 2023, 9:21 pm » wrote: ↑ You forgot about Obama taking 30 MILLION pages of records to a warehouse in Chicago, where he planned to digitize them for his library?
The DoJ used Judge Jackson's ruling to permit him to do that.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-o ... 9954890662
But these records were given to NARA in 2017, upon the end of Obama’s term, and they remain in NARA’s sole custody, in accordance with federal law. Some 30 million documents were moved to a NARA-operated facility in the Chicago area, as the agency explained in a statement Friday, but none were classified. The administration’s classified documents are stored in a separate NARA facility in the Washington, D.C., area.
29 Jun 2023 10:08 pm
They weren't moved. NARA simply claimed to have taken control of the warehouse, which wasn't true.jerrab » 29 Jun 2023, 10:06 pm » wrote: ↑ -----------------------------
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-o ... 9954890662
But these records were given to NARA in 2017, upon the end of Obama’s term, and they remain in NARA’s sole custody, in accordance with federal law. Some 30 million documents were moved to a NARA-operated facility in the Chicago area, as the agency explained in a statement Friday, but none were classified. The administration’s classified documents are stored in a separate NARA facility in the Washington, D.C., area.
But regardless, what right did Obama have to take over 30 MILLION pages of documents, anywhere?
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