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Beekeeper » 18 Jun 2023, 6:20 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 6:20 am

Yeah,so??

WHO decides what are PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS and what are PERSONAL RECORDS of the President??

National Archives:  They've been working with the dems to try and find Trump guilty of something.

roadkill » 18 Jun 2023, 6:58 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 6:58 am

National Archives:  They've been working with the dems to try and find Trump guilty of something.

So you can SHOW ME IN THE LAW where the NARA has the LEGAL AUTHORITY to determine PRESIDENTIAL from PERSONAL RECORDS!!!

Because you are DEAD *** WRONG, ****!!!

Seeing how BERMAN's RULING STATED THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS THAT LEGAL AUTHORITY AND NOT THE ARCHIVES!!


 

roadkill » 18 Jun 2023, 6:58 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 6:58 am

National Archives:  They've been working with the dems to try and find Trump guilty of something.

But even if the Court were inclined to agree with plaintiff's reassessment of President Clinton's decision, it would not alter the conclusion that the injury cannot be redressed: the PRA does not confer any mandatory or even discretionary authority on the Archivist to classify records. Under the statute, this responsibility is left solely to the President. 44 U.S.C. § 2203(a)- (b). While the plaintiff casts this lawsuit as a challenge to a decision made by the National Archives, the PRA makes it clear that this is not a decision the Archivist can make,J

udicial Watch, Inc. v. Nat'l Archives & Records Admin., 845 F. Supp. 2d 288, 301 (D.D.C. 2012)
 
 

Beekeeper » 18 Jun 2023, 7:01 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 7:01 am

So you can SHOW ME IN THE LAW where the NARA has the LEGAL AUTHORITY to determine PRESIDENTIAL from PERSONAL RECORDS!!!

Because you are DEAD *** WRONG, ****!!!

Seeing how BERMAN's RULING STATED THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS THAT LEGAL AUTHORITY AND NOT THE ARCHIVES!!

Never said they had the authority but they were assisting Biden's DOJ.  

roadkill » 18 Jun 2023, 7:08 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 7:08 am

Never said they had the authority but they were assisting Biden's DOJ.

And THAT is the reason that Trump's case is going to be DISMISSED on multiple reasons that the NARA has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY to assist ANYONE over ANY RECORDS that they "deem Presidential" since they have ZERO AUTHORITY to deem ANY RECORD ANYTHING.

That makes the RAID an UNCONSTITUTIONAL raid and any and all "evidence" collected WILL BE TOSSED and the ENTIRE CASE is now without ANY EVIDENCE of any "crime", as would any "obstruction" charge be as well.

Beekeeper » 18 Jun 2023, 7:15 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 7:15 am

And THAT is the reason that Trump's case is going to be DISMISSED on multiple reasons that the NARA has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY to assist ANYONE over ANY RECORDS that they "deem Presidential" since they have ZERO AUTHORITY to deem ANY RECORD ANYTHING.

That makes the RAID an UNCONSTITUTIONAL raid and any and all "evidence" collected WILL BE TOSSED and the ENTIRE CASE is now without ANY EVIDENCE of any "crime", as would any "obstruction" charge be as well.

That's the way it should.

RebelGator » 17 Jun 2023, 8:44 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jun 2023, 8:44 pm

I'm sure Trump had that information in his possession......you aren't very smart,  Forest.

And when I was an active duty Naval Officer, I had, in my stateroom safe, the TS (CNWDI) manuals on how to perform routine maintenance on the W44 nuclear warhead of the RUR-5 Anti-Submarine Rockets (ASROCS) that I had in my magazine.  I was not permitted to take them home with me when I left the Navy.

You're not really playing with a full deck, are ya, Cletis?

roadkill » 18 Jun 2023, 7:17 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 7:17 am

That's the way it should.

the PRA itself makes it quite clear what sorts of documents are PERSONAL records and what sorts of documents are PRESIDENTIAL records.  The clown does not have the authority to change those definitions.  He cannot call an apple an orange simply because he, himself, IS orange.

jerra b » 16 Jun 2023, 6:14 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2023, 6:14 pm

what ever to support trump.

trump can shoot someone and you would say biden biden  biden

blind loyalty in a sound proof dark room.

Dark rooms are filled with people of faith in reasonable doubt and social consensus overrides adapt or become extinct rules of balancing forward as a whole left here now is equal to total sum reproductions evolving forward now.

Jesus's Golden Rule. Treat others as you would have them treat you they're equally timed apart ancestral displacement spontaneously alive adapting in space since conceived. Nothing is fair about eternally balancing forward now. Just equally here as a replacement of one's previous 4 generation 30 DNA donors. Nobody gets a choice being added one at a time. Everything reproduced has to accept their limited time adapting in space to the society they sustain ignoring now is kinetically eternity, self evident by genetic results of the food chain native to its only atmosphere around.

Specifically their 16 great great grandparents remembered or not, 8 great grandparents still alive or not, 4 grandparents still having relationships with their children reproducing their grandchildren or not.

I have a complete understanding of genetic compounding DNA materializations of persons lived in the past past, current alive, specifically conceived in the future.

maineman » 18 Jun 2023, 8:04 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 8:04 am

the PRA itself makes it quite clear what sorts of documents are PERSONAL records and what sorts of documents are PRESIDENTIAL records.  The clown does not have the authority to change those definitions.  He cannot call an apple an orange simply because he, himself, IS orange.

Trump had the right to declassify...Joe and Hillary did not when they were not president.


Be honest mm...this is all about leftist TDS. Just like when Hillary fabricated the Russian collusion hoax.

roadkill » 18 Jun 2023, 8:11 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 8:11 am

Trump had the right to declassify...Joe and Hillary did not when they were not president.

Be honest mm...this is all about leftist TDS. Just like when Hillary fabricated the Russian collusion hoax.

Again... the Espionage Act never even USES the word "classification".  Why is that so hard for you to understand?

maineman » 18 Jun 2023, 8:20 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 8:20 am

Again... the Espionage Act never even USES the word "classification".  Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Then why hasn't Biden and Hillary been accused of the same thing?  Even yer favorite centerfold Rachel Maddow admitted this whole thing against Trump is political.   

maineman » 18 Jun 2023, 8:20 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 8:20 am

Again... the Espionage Act never even USES the word "classification".  Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Lobster fisherman WON. supreme court. HA! good.  
 

maineman » 18 Jun 2023, 8:20 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 8:20 am

Again... the Espionage Act never even USES the word "classification".  Why is that so hard for you to understand?

You really like bouncing around on 7 axioms of intellectual truth designed by humans to govern tomorrow's results arriving here now 24/7.

Intellect isn't a higher form of evolution. Just inductive energy in a brain navigating evolving spontaneously here and simultaneously as displaced here now.

maineman » 18 Jun 2023, 8:01 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 8:01 am

And when I was an active duty Naval Officer, I had, in my stateroom safe, the TS (CNWDI) manuals on how to perform routine maintenance on the W44 nuclear warhead of the RUR-5 Anti-Submarine Rockets (ASROCS) that I had in my magazine.  I was not permitted to take them home with me when I left the Navy.

You're not really playing with a full deck, are ya, Cletis?

You weren't the PRESIDENT and had ZERO AUTHORITY to declassify or determine if they were PERSONAL or GOVERNMENT records that the PRESIDENT has the authority to do, ASSHOLE!!

 

roadkill » 18 Jun 2023, 8:22 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 8:22 am

Then why hasn't Biden and Hillary been accused of the same thing?  

or Pence, too?

maineman » 18 Jun 2023, 8:44 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 8:44 am

or Pence, too?

Very good question...and I have the answer.


The corrupt establishment wants to stop Trump from running in 2024. Pence is just as guilty as Joe and Hillary...Trump is not.  


 

roadkill » 18 Jun 2023, 8:46 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 8:46 am

Very good question...and I have the answer.

The corrupt establishment wants to stop Trump from running in 2024. Pence is just as guilty as Joe and Hillary...Trump is not.

the first 31 counts of the indictment make is pretty clear that the clown violated the espionage act a bunch of times

maineman » 18 Jun 2023, 8:49 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 8:49 am

the first 31 counts of the indictment make is pretty clear that the clown violated the espionage act a bunch of times

And those 31 counts are going to be **** ON REAL DAMN FAST since there is ZERO EVIDENCE of "intent to harm the United States" AS REQUIRED UNDER THAT STATUTE, ASSHOLE!!! Want me to QUOTE IT FOR YOU??

 The Espionage Act of June 15, 1917
  Espionage

 Section 1

 That: (a) whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defence with intent or reason to believe that the information to be obtained is to be used to the injury of the United States.....

Your so cute when you try to play lawyer and get the **** KICKED OUT OF YOU ON EVERY POST YOU MAKE!!

                   

maineman » 18 Jun 2023, 8:49 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 8:49 am

the first 31 counts of the indictment make is pretty clear that the clown violated the espionage act a bunch of times

Or so says the corrupt DOJ.