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thelion » 19 Jun 2023, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 1:46 pm

tu quoque fail.

You've got it backwards uninformed idiot.

golfboy » 09 Jun 2023, 7:10 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jun 2023, 7:10 pm

Did they show Trump's intent to harm America?

It's time for you to part ways with Trump. Trump is heading for prison 

thelion » 19 Jun 2023, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 1:46 pm

tu quoque fail.

As a homosexual, do you feel threatened by the transgender takeover?

jerrab » 18 Jun 2023, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 7:33 pm

he illegally  kept  documents that were not his property. the opinion of  judge jackson did not hold water and did not no way change the  law that was enacted  by  congress.

And you STILL haven't figured it out that the LAW SAYS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE SOLE DETERMINATE OF WHAT IS PERSONAL AND WHAT IS PRESIDENTIAL, ****!!!

And THAT is what JACKSON RULED and the LAW IS WRITTEN AS SUCH!!

I've DONE WITH YOUR STUPIDITY AND ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE THE WORDS OF THE LAW THAT A JUDGE HAS RULED ON AND DONE SO WITHOUT ANY LACK OF CLARITY!!

Run along now LITTLE BOY. YOU LOST!!!

RealZaro » 19 Jun 2023, 2:07 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 2:07 pm

It's time for you to part ways with Trump. Trump is heading for prison 

let us get something straight, Obama intended on fundamentally changing how America was governed as designed by original Constitution. Everything was set for Hillary to complete it in 2016 but the Original Constitution beat her at her own game, and she even cheated and lost. the legal election process and since that time federal and state governments have been rewriting election laws to bypass electoral college provisions in the original constitution. as performed in 2018, 2020, 2022.

Media and everyone controlling the flow of information has everyone debating ballot harvesting and that isn't where the numbers are being switched. from actual count to recorded count.


anybody with any training about programming computers knows the spread sheet system of cells with a specific formula for specific data collection.

So when the rigged software is in place between the counting center that sends the data to the reporting center as an example for Trumps formula tabulates 95% of his actual numbers, Biden got 104.75% of his actual numbers. that is a yield of 10% of actual votes only software changed everything without a person handling ballots doing anything wrong.

Kind of like insider trading. Only the very few that work the tech are in the know. Everyone else is chasing shadows of doubt.

rule of law defends the corrupted, not the honest ancestors punished for questioning authorities of reasonable doubt. that is what created the silent majority.

Beekeeper » 19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm

And you STILL haven't figured it out that the LAW SAYS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE SOLE DETERMINATE OF WHAT IS PERSONAL AND WHAT IS PRESIDENTIAL, ****!!!

And THAT is what JACKSON RULED and the LAW IS WRITTEN AS SUCH!!

I've DONE WITH YOUR STUPIDITY AND ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE THE WORDS OF THE LAW THAT A JUDGE HAS RULED ON AND DONE SO WITHOUT ANY LACK OF CLARITY!!

Run along now LITTLE BOY. YOU LOST!!!

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(a) Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President’s constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.

Beekeeper » 19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm

And you STILL haven't figured it out that the LAW SAYS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE SOLE DETERMINATE OF WHAT IS PERSONAL AND WHAT IS PRESIDENTIAL, ****!!!

And THAT is what JACKSON RULED and the LAW IS WRITTEN AS SUCH!!

I've DONE WITH YOUR STUPIDITY AND ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE THE WORDS OF THE LAW THAT A JUDGE HAS RULED ON AND DONE SO WITHOUT ANY LACK OF CLARITY!!

Run along now LITTLE BOY. YOU LOST!!!

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The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.

jerrab » 19 Jun 2023, 5:43 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 5:43 pm

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(a) Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President’s constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.

I think Honeyboy has got his laws confused.  The PRA is very precise in its definitions of what are personal and presidential records.  the law does NOT give the president the right to call an apple an orange.

jerrab » 19 Jun 2023, 5:43 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 5:43 pm

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(a) Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President’s constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.

jb...what do you want to be when you grow up?  

Beekeeper » 19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm

And you STILL haven't figured it out that the LAW SAYS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE SOLE DETERMINATE OF WHAT IS PERSONAL AND WHAT IS PRESIDENTIAL, ****!!!

And THAT is what JACKSON RULED and the LAW IS WRITTEN AS SUCH!!

I've DONE WITH YOUR STUPIDITY AND ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE THE WORDS OF THE LAW THAT A JUDGE HAS RULED ON AND DONE SO WITHOUT ANY LACK OF CLARITY!!

Run along now LITTLE BOY. YOU LOST!!!

-----------------------------------------------------a) Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President's constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.(b) Documentary materials produced or received by the President, the President's staff, or units or individuals in the Executive Office of the President the function of which is to advise or assist the President, shall, to the extent practicable, be categorized as Presidential records or personal records upon their creation or receipt and be filed separately.(c) During the President's term of office, the President may dispose of those Presidential records of such President that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value if-(1) the President obtains the views, in writing, of the Archivist concerning the proposed disposal of such Presidential records; and(2) the Archivist states that the Archivist does not intend to take any action under subsection (e) of this section.

Beekeeper » 19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm

And you STILL haven't figured it out that the LAW SAYS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE SOLE DETERMINATE OF WHAT IS PERSONAL AND WHAT IS PRESIDENTIAL, ****!!!

And THAT is what JACKSON RULED and the LAW IS WRITTEN AS SUCH!!

I've DONE WITH YOUR STUPIDITY AND ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE THE WORDS OF THE LAW THAT A JUDGE HAS RULED ON AND DONE SO WITHOUT ANY LACK OF CLARITY!!

Run along now LITTLE BOY. YOU LOST!!!

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(1) Upon the conclusion of a President's term of office, or if a President serves consecutive terms upon the conclusion of the last term, the Archivist of the United States shall assume responsibility for the custody, control, and preservation of, and access to, the Presidential records of that President. The Archivist shall have an affirmative duty to make such records available to the public as rapidly and completely as possible consistent with the provisions of this chapter.

Beekeeper » 19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm

And you STILL haven't figured it out that the LAW SAYS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE SOLE DETERMINATE OF WHAT IS PERSONAL AND WHAT IS PRESIDENTIAL, ****!!!

And THAT is what JACKSON RULED and the LAW IS WRITTEN AS SUCH!!

I've DONE WITH YOUR STUPIDITY AND ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE THE WORDS OF THE LAW THAT A JUDGE HAS RULED ON AND DONE SO WITHOUT ANY LACK OF CLARITY!!

Run along now LITTLE BOY. YOU LOST!!!

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Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President's constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.

jerrab » 19 Jun 2023, 6:13 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 6:13 pm

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Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President's constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.

that's nice!

Beekeeper » 19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm

And you STILL haven't figured it out that the LAW SAYS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE SOLE DETERMINATE OF WHAT IS PERSONAL AND WHAT IS PRESIDENTIAL, ****!!!

And THAT is what JACKSON RULED and the LAW IS WRITTEN AS SUCH!!

I've DONE WITH YOUR STUPIDITY AND ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE THE WORDS OF THE LAW THAT A JUDGE HAS RULED ON AND DONE SO WITHOUT ANY LACK OF CLARITY!!

Run along now LITTLE BOY. YOU LOST!!!

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------(2) The term "Presidential records" means documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, the President's immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise or assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term-(A) includes any documentary materials relating to the political activities of the President or members of the President's staff, but only if such activities relate to or have a direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; but(B) does not include any documentary materials that are (i) official records of an agency (as defined in section 552(e) 1 of title 5, United States Code); (ii) personal records; (iii) stocks of publications and stationery; or (iv) extra copies of documents produced only for convenience of reference, when such copies are clearly so identified.(3) The term "personal records" means all documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion therof,2 of a purely private or nonpublic character which do not relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term includes-(A) diaries, journals, or other personal notes serving as the functional equivalent of a diary or journal which are not prepared or utilized for, or circulated or communicated in the course of, transacting Government business;
 

Beekeeper » 19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm

And you STILL haven't figured it out that the LAW SAYS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE SOLE DETERMINATE OF WHAT IS PERSONAL AND WHAT IS PRESIDENTIAL, ****!!!

And THAT is what JACKSON RULED and the LAW IS WRITTEN AS SUCH!!

I've DONE WITH YOUR STUPIDITY AND ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE THE WORDS OF THE LAW THAT A JUDGE HAS RULED ON AND DONE SO WITHOUT ANY LACK OF CLARITY!!

Run along now LITTLE BOY. YOU LOST!!!

https://casetext.com/statute/united-sta ... al-records

Beekeeper » 18 Jun 2023, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2023, 3:42 pm

BIG **** DEAL, *******!!

This has ZERO bearing on your attempt to obfuscate the FACT THAT NARA has NO CAPABILITY TO SEIZE RECORDS FROM A PRESIDENT IF HE CLASSIFIES THEM PERSONAL RECORDS. ANYTHING he DOES NOT TURN OVER, they have ZERO ABILITY TO SEIZE!!

JACKSON MADE THAT RULING, ****. You've been shown the CITATION at LEAST 20 times on this thread along. SO SUCK A BIG COCK and SHUT THE **** UP!!

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Is violation of the PRA a felony?
There are several provisions of federal criminal law imposing liability on officials who violate the PRA and the FRA. 18 U.S.C. § 641 makes it a felony to, among other things, dispose of any record that belongs to the United States.Feb 18, 2022

Beekeeper » 19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 4:32 pm

And you STILL haven't figured it out that the LAW SAYS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE SOLE DETERMINATE OF WHAT IS PERSONAL AND WHAT IS PRESIDENTIAL, ****!!!

And THAT is what JACKSON RULED and the LAW IS WRITTEN AS SUCH!!

I've DONE WITH YOUR STUPIDITY AND ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE THE WORDS OF THE LAW THAT A JUDGE HAS RULED ON AND DONE SO WITHOUT ANY LACK OF CLARITY!!

Run along now LITTLE BOY. YOU LOST!!!

---------------------------------------------Presidential Records (44 U.S.C. Chapter 22)https://www.archives.gov › about › laws › presidential...
Jun 5, 2017 — The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be ..

razoo » 19 Jun 2023, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 7:20 pm

Meaningless conversation = fake news

How is quoting a liberal judge setting precedent, fake news?
 

RealZaro » 19 Jun 2023, 2:07 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 2:07 pm

It's time for you to part ways with Trump. Trump is heading for prison

You think the Secret Service will allow him to go to prison? 
How exactly are they going to guarantee his safety there?
 

jerrab » 13 Jun 2023, 10:48 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jun 2023, 10:48 pm

https://www.intelligence.gov/evolution- ... espionage-

act#:~:text=The%20Espionage%20Act%20broadly%20sought,with%20the%20intention%20of%20passing
The Espionage Act of 1917; Sedition Act cartoonAspects of the Espionage Act and of the Sedition Act of 1918, which later amended it, sought to stifle any criticism of the government or the war and allowed the Postmaster General to intercept mail containing such criticisms. These acts were controversial, as they clearly infringed upon Americans’ First Amendment right of free speech.The more restrictive Sedition Act was repealed in December 1920, but not before federal prosecutors brought charges against more than two thousand individuals for alleged violations. The Espionage Act is still in existence and has been the grounds for prominent espionage convictions throughout the last century, including:Julius and Ethel Rosenberg: After spying for the Soviets during World War II, including passing secrets about the development of the atomic bomb, the Rosenbergs were convicted of espionage in 1951 and, in 1953, became the only American citizens ever executed for the crime

Still waiting for you to show Trump INTENDED to harm the United States, as the law requires.