"DOJ has one big problem with its Trump criminal case, legal expert says"

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By roadkill
9 Jun 2023 4:22 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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jerra b
19 Jun 2023 9:48 pm
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golfboy » 19 Jun 2023, 9:44 pm » wrote: Why would I click on your link, instead of the House government website set up for the specific purpose of tracking all laws?
Again, that link is here:  18 USC 793: Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information (house.gov)

not the same law as what trump is charged with.
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19 Jun 2023 9:48 pm
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golfboy » 19 Jun 2023, 9:45 pm » wrote: Not SCOTUS, as you claimed, room temp.
their laughter was under their breath.  but they did, in fact, decline to reverse the decisions of every other court in the land.
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19 Jun 2023 9:51 pm
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golfboy » 19 Jun 2023, 9:44 pm » wrote: Why would I click on your link, instead of the House government website set up for the specific purpose of tracking all laws?
Again, that link is here:  18 USC 793: Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information (house.gov)
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer-
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19 Jun 2023 9:55 pm
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golfboy » 19 Jun 2023, 9:45 pm » wrote: Not SCOTUS, as you claimed, room temp.
of course it did.  Silence speaks volumes.  If SCOTUS has wanted to weigh in on the case, they would have done so.  Their silence shows their tacit agreement with the lower courts.
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19 Jun 2023 10:17 pm
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maineman » 19 Jun 2023, 9:55 pm » wrote: of course it did.  Silence speaks volumes.

I cant be silent.  I love kid ******

I crave it
 
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jerra b
20 Jun 2023 12:06 pm
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maineman » 19 Jun 2023, 9:51 pm » wrote: (f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer-
saying trump  could decide what is government and personal and he was correct in deciding every government document was personal is ridiculous. the guidelines are clearly marked.

if trump was to decide which pieces of paper were black and which pieces of paper were white  these dumb asses would say if trump decided all black pieces of paper were white he would be right.
 
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20 Jun 2023 1:08 pm
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jerrab » 19 Jun 2023, 5:43 pm » wrote: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(a) Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President’s constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.
Yep!!!

And the PRESIDENT is the one WHO DETERMINES what is PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS and what are PERSONAL RECORDS!!

Even your OWN POST ABOVE proves that, dildobreath!!
 
AND NOWHERE does it give the ARCHIVIST any discretionary ability to CLASSIFY what is Presidential and what isn't!!!

Sucks you are so stupid you can't even READ AND COMPREHEND what your VERY OWN POST SAYS!!
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jerra b
20 Jun 2023 1:20 pm
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Beekeeper » 20 Jun 2023, 1:08 pm » wrote: Yep!!!

And the PRESIDENT is the one WHO DETERMINES what is PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS and what are PERSONAL RECORDS!!

Even your OWN POST ABOVE proves that, dildobreath!!
 
AND NOWHERE does it give the ARCHIVIST any discretionary ability to CLASSIFY what is Presidential and what isn't!!!

Sucks you are so stupid you can't even READ AND COMPREHEND what your VERY OWN POST SAYS!!

dumb ***.

government records are government records. even a third grader could tell the difference  of US senate legislation bills passed and what I did on my summer vacation.


 
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20 Jun 2023 3:12 pm
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maineman » 19 Jun 2023, 8:38 pm » wrote: no court in the land is willing to call my daughter a racist.

that's a fact.

Suck on that, pedo boy. :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  
 
Legal descriptions of ancestors makes everyone a contextual racist just using the language without malice when a person of character defends their nurtured socially stereo typed personality.
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20 Jun 2023 4:02 pm
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golfboy » 19 Jun 2023, 8:40 pm » wrote: The map wouldn't have changed, but the facts would have. 
Would our ability to attack Iran have changed in 3 years?  Would their defenses?
Of course. 
That plan is obsolute [sic] and useless. 

And again, you have to prove Trump believe that information would harm America. 
(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; 

Doesn't matter how many time you repeat yourself, you're not going to change that fact.
Obsolute?

Is that like a shortcut aphasic, way of saying absolutely obsolete?

The clown would have to be a complete idiot (like you) to imagine that those 31 documents could NOT be used to the injury of the United States.

 
 
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jerrab » 20 Jun 2023, 1:20 pm » wrote: dumb ***.

government records are government records. even a third grader could tell the difference  of US senate legislation bills passed and what I did on my summer vacation.
And the PRESIDENT gets to decide WHICH IS PRESIDENTIAL, which ARE government records, and what are PERSONAL RECORDS, which are NOT government records, ASSHOLE!!

Keep wishing and clicking your heels together and MAYBE the good witch will send you back to Kansas!!!

You have to be THE biggest **** that ever sucked air.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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20 Jun 2023 4:24 pm
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Beekeeper » 20 Jun 2023, 4:10 pm » wrote: And the PRESIDENT gets to decide WHICH IS PRESIDENTIAL, which ARE government records, and what are PERSONAL RECORDS, which are NOT government records, ASSHOLE!!

Keep wishing and clicking your heels together and MAYBE the good witch will send you back to Kansas!!!

You have to be THE biggest **** that ever sucked air.

a ******* like you can't read.
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jerra b
20 Jun 2023 6:26 pm
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Beekeeper » 20 Jun 2023, 4:10 pm » wrote: And the PRESIDENT gets to decide WHICH IS PRESIDENTIAL, which ARE government records, and what are PERSONAL RECORDS, which are NOT government records, ASSHOLE!!

Keep wishing and clicking your heels together and MAYBE the good witch will send you back to Kansas!!!

You have to be THE biggest **** that ever sucked air.
he has already admitted that they are not all  his personal documents.
 
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20 Jun 2023 6:56 pm
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jerrab » 20 Jun 2023, 6:26 pm » wrote: he has already admitted that they are not all  his personal documents.
Now tell us why that matters...and does the 3 locations where Biden had docs stashed all include personal docs.



 
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jerra b
20 Jun 2023 8:05 pm
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roadkill » 20 Jun 2023, 6:56 pm » wrote: Now tell us why that matters...and does the 3 locations where Biden had docs stashed all include personal docs.

he kept government documents. tell my why that does not matter.
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20 Jun 2023 8:15 pm
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jerrab » 20 Jun 2023, 8:05 pm » wrote: he kept government documents. tell my why that does not matter.
Biden kept documents. Pence kept documents. Hillary had electronic documents but destroyed them. 

Why should I care more about Trump having documents? 🤷‍♂️
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20 Jun 2023 8:26 pm
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neueregel » 20 Jun 2023, 8:15 pm » wrote: Biden kept documents. Pence kept documents. Hillary had electronic documents but destroyed them. 

Why should I care more about Trump having documents? 🤷‍♂️

trump refused to give them back.

why?
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neue regel
20 Jun 2023 8:28 pm
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jerrab » 20 Jun 2023, 8:26 pm » wrote: trump refused to give them back.

why?
Because he thought they were rightfully his. 
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20 Jun 2023 8:59 pm
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neueregel » 20 Jun 2023, 8:28 pm » wrote: Because he thought they were rightfully his.
when the PRA clearly states they were not?

 
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neueregel » 20 Jun 2023, 8:28 pm » wrote: Because he thought they were rightfully his.

he admits they are not his.
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