"DOJ has one big problem with its Trump criminal case, legal expert says"

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9 Jun 2023 4:22 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2023, 2:05 am » wrote: The Supreme Court DECLINED to become involved. The lower court's ruling - which CLEARLY favors trump, if it comments on the case at all, and which CLEARLY cannot help the prosecution - stood. 

I already said this, but I will say it again. I don't think you understand the issues of EITHER case. The only common ground between the two cases - one having been a civil case and the other being criminal; one having been about gaining public access and the other being about denying public access - is that both cases hinge on the issue of presidential authority. Or so Trump's team believes, which is why they invoke the clinton sock drawer case. Whether the finding in the clinton sock drawer case will in FACT be relevant to Trump's case is yet to be litigated. If the finding IS relevant - likely, - it will favor Trump.

do you know judicial watch (a group) sued nra to put clinton's tapes in clinton's presidential library?

 
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roadkill » 21 Jun 2023, 1:50 am » wrote: Did Obama give Biden permission when Joe was a senator?  Check and checkmate.
It is safer to be the sitting pretendodent's son that his political rival. That's how third world countries work. 

They stole the 2020 election, and now they are looking to steal his freedom, because you can only steal so many elections. 
 
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jerrab » 21 Jun 2023, 2:10 am » wrote: do you know judicial watch (a group) sued nra to put clinton's tapes in clinton's presidential library?
Yes. It was a CIVIL case - and judicial watch lost, because the court found that Clinton's authority in the matter was absolute, which portends well for Trump and which is why his attorneys and advocates are bringing it up.

And it was the NARA, not the NRA.
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2023, 2:08 am » wrote: Again, I don't think you are very informed about either case. 

In your view, what is trump accused of losing?

 to have someone he chooses to go though the documents
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Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2023, 2:14 am » wrote: Yes. It was a CIVIL case - and the NRA lost, because the court found that Clinton's authority in the matter was absolute, which portends well for Trump and which is why his attorneys and advocates are bringing it up.
no, nra won.

nra did not want to put the tapes in the library.

judicial watch sued nra and took nra to court.

 nra had already deemed the tapes personal,
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jerrab » 21 Jun 2023, 2:17 am » wrote: no, nra won.

nra did not want to put the tapes in the library.

judicial watch sued nra and took nra to court.

 nra had already deemed the tapes personal,
Yes, Judicial Watch lost - NARA won. 

The NRA was not involved.
 
I edited my previous answer to read Judicial Watch lost - which is what I meant, but responded in haste.
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jerrab » 21 Jun 2023, 2:15 am » wrote:  to have someone he chooses to go though the documents
Oh - he lost a MOTION.

Yes - clearly. 

He is not accused of losing any DOCUMENTS. Not like the dottering tard who left them in garages and closets and all the **** over. 

Trump is accused of espionage on behalf of no one - much as Ghislane Maxwell trafficked children to no one.
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2023, 2:13 am » wrote: It is safer to be the sitting pretendodent's son that his political rival. That's how third world countries work. 

They stole the 2020 election, and now they are looking to steal his freedom, because you can only steal so many elections.

A free man in a 3rd world country.  Is it possible?  
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roadkill » 21 Jun 2023, 2:30 am » wrote: A free man in a 3rd world country.  Is it possible?
"Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose" - Kris Kristofferson, Poet Laureate of the Glorious Fourth Republic.
 
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Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2023, 2:35 am » wrote: "Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose" - Kris Kristofferson, Poet Laureate of the Glorious Fourth Republic.

That's how Moses got his second job. 
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maineman » 20 Jun 2023, 4:02 pm » wrote: Obsolute?

Is that like a shortcut aphasic, way of saying absolutely obsolete?

The clown would have to be a complete idiot (like you) to imagine that those 31 documents could NOT be used to the injury of the United States.

 
 
Look at you demanding people can hurt an ideology physically. Ideologies only physically exist when ancestors perform as the ideas life isn't what it does naturally here. Realities are self fulfilling behaviors because those performing them don't want to understand the actual time they exist is existing.

Called social denial, i.e. corruption of life in real time. Original sin metaphor. Eternal hell symbolism to fruition self inflicted by the species performing the rituals of make believe something does exist when it can never exist naturally.

Nature is everything working in series parallel space individual results as specifically details never same as before again. Evolving in plain sight as ancestrally proportioned numbers present.
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jerrab » 20 Jun 2023, 4:24 pm » wrote: a ******* like you can't read.
Then SHOW US where the ARCHIVIST is the one who makes a determination as to what is Presidential and which are PERSONAL, ****!!

Come on now, SURELY you can back up your claim. And yes, the ARCHIVIST stores records, but WHERE do your find AUTHORITY TO CLASSIFY WHICH IS WHICH!!!

Oops!!

You have to be THE most OBTUSE LWNJ POS that ever sucked air.
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jerrab » 20 Jun 2023, 6:26 pm » wrote: he has already admitted that they are not all  his personal documents.
Oh so NOW you are going to change your tune!! Trump has NEVER said anything OTHER than the records were declassified and HIS PERSONAL ONES!!
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jun 2023, 10:01 pm » wrote: The Clinton Socks Decision would beg to disagree.
You misread it.

https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/6/14/ ... ument-case
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jerrab » 20 Jun 2023, 6:26 pm » wrote: he has already admitted that they are not all  his personal documents.
Then you will have NO PROBLEM in providing a LINK TO HIM MAKING THAT STATEMENT, RIGHT???
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If Trump had destroyed evidence like Hillary did, I would be much madder at him.
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You misrepresent your actual genetic displacement. So anything you say is projected self deception of why you exist in the first place.
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Beekeeper » 21 Jun 2023, 7:21 am » wrote: Then you will have NO PROBLEM in providing a LINK TO HIM MAKING THAT STATEMENT, RIGHT???
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-b ... =100256459

Donald Trump on Monday suggested he had been too "busy" and wanted to be sure he'd retrieved his personal belongings before complying with the federal government's repeated demands -- and, eventually, a grand jury's subpoena -- that he return classified documents he took with him when he left the White House.

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admitting they are not all his personal  documents.
 
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jerra b » 21 Jun 2023, 9:59 am » wrote: ----------------------------------

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-b ... =100256459

Donald Trump on Monday suggested he had been too "busy" and wanted to be sure he'd retrieved his personal belongings before complying with the federal government's repeated demands -- and, eventually, a grand jury's subpoena -- that he return classified documents he took with him when he left the White House.

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admitting they are not all his personal  documents.
 
this is why one should never compromise with deniers of actual life. they won't change their mind and those within the mob mentality will eliminate anyone that can naturally debunk their history misleading people cradle to grave so far.
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Astoundingly, your little girl link has an ACTUAL BUTTON which accesses "exlpainers" - clearly constructed for those who consider sorting things for themselves too onerous. 

I don't drink from the FOD (Font Of Dicksuckery) from which cucks learn that women have dicks, fruitcake. 

Anything a gender confused POS proffers is unlikely to elucidate - it's purpose being to gaslight morons.
 
 
When you complain, your friends roll their eyes and your enemies smile

"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not your friend

An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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