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By NEILCAR
15 Jun 2023 8:17 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Skans » 20 Jun 2023, 10:35 am » wrote: Perhaps. But, what I know is that leftists tend to breed more leftists - they get worse with each generation. Overall, I have little concern or compassion for the children of leftists.  If they self-mutilate and destroy themselves, I admit, I grin a little inside.

Forced sterilization should be a prerequisite for getting an abortion, that's a given and really another subject. When leftists take it upon themselves to destroy their ability to effectively reproduce, I find solace in that. It is like a cancer eating the host and destroying itself. Is that not a natural and fitting outcome?

leftist already fail to reproduce. the next generation of leftists is a product of government enforced ideology. this society can indeed take a decent person with good potential and transmogrify them into a leftist. if we defeat this government then we would no longer need to pretend that it is possible to be 'born in the wrong body' or change your biological sex.
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FOS » 20 Jun 2023, 10:39 am » wrote: leftist already fail to reproduce. the next generation of leftists is a product of government enforced ideology. this society can indeed take a decent person with good potential and transmogrify them into a leftist. if we defeat this government then we would no longer need to pretend that it is possible to be 'born in the wrong body' or change your biological sex.
I too would like to defeat "this government", for some of the same reasons you would.  I just don't want to replace it with a fascist government.
 
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Skans » 20 Jun 2023, 10:44 am » wrote: I too would like to defeat "this government", for some of the same reasons you would.  I just don't want to replace it with a fascist government.

your sentiment is probably the most common one. But here is one thing that is clear: this system does not fear communists...it does not fear monarchists. it does not fear theocrats. The only revolutionary ideology this system REALLY fears is fascists. Fascism is the kryptonite to the modern neo liberal order. everything else can be absorbed and coopted.
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FOS » 20 Jun 2023, 10:50 am » wrote: your sentiment is probably the most common one. But here is one thing that is clear: this system does not fear communists...it does not fear monarchists. it does not fear theocrats. The only revolutionary ideology this system REALLY fears is fascists. Fascism is the kryptonite to the modern neo liberal order. everything else can be absorbed and coopted.
Well, I have as little interest in communists and theocrats ruling me as I do fascists. I only mention fascism because, from previous discussions, I know that is the system you would like to see installed should the present one ever be destroyed. 
 
 
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Skans » 20 Jun 2023, 10:56 am » wrote: Well, I have as little interest in communists and theocrats ruling me as I do fascists. I only mention fascism because, from previous discussions, I know that is the system you would like to see installed should the present one ever be destroyed.

i think if you tried it you would be okay with it :)
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NEILCAR » 20 Jun 2023, 10:07 am » wrote: No matter how well your intention are

.. the end result if mutilation of children's bodies

.... The children's minds are still developing... any sex change surgery should be after the age of 18.
How does anyone gaslighting and sexualizing children have any "good intention"? lol

It's not only surgery they want to inflict onn children. They also want to sell them the chemical castration regime they were paid by government to develop for sex offenders, relabelled "puberty blocker regime."

It's about MARKET. Instead of creating products for market, the create market for products.
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NEILCAR » 20 Jun 2023, 10:31 am » wrote: After watch biden's economic program I would politely suggest that the Republican's monetary policy looks pretty good. 

A lib Dem controlled city Baltimore has 21 school districts and not one child was proficient in math... Not one.  I would suggest that these teachers (nor the dem's in Baltimore) are not the people I want making decisions regarding the sexuality of my children ...
yup it’s a **** show 
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jun 2023, 10:57 am » wrote: How does anyone gaslighting and sexualizing children have any "good intention"? lol

It's not only surgery they want to inflict onn children. They also want to sell them the chemical castration regime they were paid by government to develop for sex offenders, relabelled "puberty blocker regime."

It's about MARKET. Instead of creating products for market, the create market for products.
gaslighting there’s that word again 
 
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jun 2023, 9:41 am » wrote: This - all of it. ^

But the dems have to own and correct their stupid **** that they ALL allowed ot fester in THEIR camps and THEIR ranks, or else the rest of us have to - and the rest of us will rightly and resoundingly reject dem ***. 

Y'all can't steal EVERY election.

I have heard democrats have complained out biden's  trans agenda,  which they did not expect.
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jerrab » 20 Jun 2023, 11:50 am » wrote: I have heard democrats have complained out biden's  trans agenda,  which they did not expect.

politics today is rather amusing...bewcause minorities will vopte democrat because the democrats are anti white. But the democrats are also in love with sexual perversion, which minorities are not usually a fan of. But ultimately this will not matter. minorities hate white people more than they hate transgenders.
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jun 2023, 9:41 am » wrote: This - all of it. ^

But the dems have to own and correct their stupid **** that they ALL allowed ot fester in THEIR camps and THEIR ranks, or else the rest of us have to - and the rest of us will rightly and resoundingly reject dem ***. 

Y'all can't steal EVERY election.

joe manchin is not a fan of biden's  transgender agenda. but he is not running in the primary against biden, if he did he could win.
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jerrab » 20 Jun 2023, 11:50 am » wrote: I have heard democrats have complained out biden's  trans agenda,  which they did not expect.
Have you heard any pledging to withhold their votes from their scumbag, child-disturbing party?
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jerrab » 20 Jun 2023, 12:10 pm » wrote: joe manchin is not a fan of biden's  transgender agenda. but he is not running in the primary against biden, if he did he could win.
The democ rats' last two offerings as pResident were hitlery klingon (The It's her turn" ticket) and pedo-joe (The "lock up your chidren" ticket). 

If they nominated David Duke - with a proper mea culpa and a pinky swear to abide by democ rat principles (like THAT's a thing...), in your view, would most democ rats vote a Duke ticket? Say, with someone from NAMBLA as his running mate? A black guy from NAMBLA - I wanna make this difficult. Image
 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jun 2023, 12:29 pm » wrote: The democ rats' last two offerings as pResident were hitlery klingon (The It's her turn" ticket) and pedo-joe (The "lock up your chidren" ticket). 

If they nominated David Duke - with a proper mea culpa and a pinky swear to abide by democ rat principles (like THAT's a thing...), in your view, would most democ rats vote a Duke ticket? Say, with someone from NAMBLA as his running mate? A black guy from NAMBLA - I wanna make this difficult. Image

I don't know. I am pretty confident I would vote for joe manchin. he did not want boys on girls team and not that pro abortion which might get republican cross over  votes.
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jerrab » 20 Jun 2023, 12:32 pm » wrote: I don't know. I am pretty confident I would vote for joe manchin. he did not want boys on girls team and not that pro abortion which might get republican cross over  votes.
Your party is way too old and white to attract republicans. They like a little youth and diversity on their ticket. Image
 
And most republicans find the democ rats WAY too cozy with wall street.
 
 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jun 2023, 12:29 pm » wrote: The democ rats' last two offerings as pResident were hitlery klingon (The It's her turn" ticket) and pedo-joe (The "lock up your chidren" ticket). 

If they nominated David Duke - with a proper mea culpa and a pinky swear to abide by democ rat principles (like THAT's a thing...), in your view, would most democ rats vote a Duke ticket? Say, with someone from NAMBLA as his running mate? A black guy from NAMBLA - I wanna make this difficult. Image
more about joe manchin 

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The amendment would have denied federal funding under Title II of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 to states, school districts, colleges, and universities that allow transgender girls and women to compete on female teams. It was sponsored by Republican Sen. Tommy Tuberville of Alabama, with cosponsors Roger Marshall of Kansas, and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.It needed 60 votes to be added to the relief bill, and it received only 49 -- from all Republicans except the two Alaska senators: Lisa Murkowski, who voted no, and Dan Sullivan, who was not present. Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, often considered an LGBTQ+ ally, voted for it. All Democrats voted against it except Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, one of the most conservative Dems.
 
 
 
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Why anyone would give up being a man is beyond me. Being a man is like winning the lottery 
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jun 2023, 12:34 pm » wrote: Your party is way too old and white to attract republicans. They like a little youth and diversity on their ticket. Image
 
And most republicans find the democ rats WAY too cozy with wall street.
why I think manchin would get republican voters,

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Manchin Was Only Democratic Cosponsor Of The Bicameral Joint Resolution Of DisapprovalWashington, DC – Today, U.S. Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV), member of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, cosponsored and voted in favor of a bicameral joint resolution of disapproval under the Congressional Review Act (CRA) to block an illegal U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) rule that provides abortion services through the taxpayer-funded VA healthcare system. This morning, Senator Manchin held a press conference with his fellow cosponsors, Senators Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) and Roger Marshall (R-KS), on their efforts to block the rule.
 
“The VA’s current policy is a blatant violation of federal law,” said Senator Manchin. “Since 1976, there has been bipartisan consensus on the Hyde Amendment because most Americans agree that we should not be using taxpayer dollars to provide abortion services. This rule exceeds the VA’s statutory authority and is another example of the Biden Administration’s growing pattern of prioritizing a political agenda over Constitutional processes. I always have and always will fight to maintain the commonsense protections we’ve had in place for decades to ensure federal tax dollars cannot be used to fund abortions.”
 
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Imgreatagain » 20 Jun 2023, 12:40 pm » wrote: Why anyone would give up being a man is beyond me. Being a man is like winning the lottery

lol what? not in this society. men are really only valued for their utility...while people will simultaneously complain about a man who tries to acquire wealth and power. If you want anyone to care about you as a person, then you have to be female. 
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jerrab » 20 Jun 2023, 12:40 pm » wrote: why I think manchin would get republican voters,

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https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsroom ... rtion-rule

Manchin Was Only Democratic Cosponsor Of The Bicameral Joint Resolution Of DisapprovalWashington, DC – Today, U.S. Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV), member of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, cosponsored and voted in favor of a bicameral joint resolution of disapproval under the Congressional Review Act (CRA) to block an illegal U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) rule that provides abortion services through the taxpayer-funded VA healthcare system. This morning, Senator Manchin held a press conference with his fellow cosponsors, Senators Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) and Roger Marshall (R-KS), on their efforts to block the rule.
 
“The VA’s current policy is a blatant violation of federal law,” said Senator Manchin. “Since 1976, there has been bipartisan consensus on the Hyde Amendment because most Americans agree that we should not be using taxpayer dollars to provide abortion services. This rule exceeds the VA’s statutory authority and is another example of the Biden Administration’s growing pattern of prioritizing a political agenda over Constitutional processes. I always have and always will fight to maintain the commonsense protections we’ve had in place for decades to ensure federal tax dollars cannot be used to fund abortions.”
One sane fellow in your party is tokenism.

It's like pretending the entire Republican party is a bunch of highly moral and highly ethical geniuses, just because Donald Milhouse Trump is. 
 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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