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When gov't helps poor people it's called a handout ,helping big business = subsidy, donating to the wealthy = tax break
When gov't helps poor people it's called a handout ,helping big business = subsidy, donating to the wealthy = tax break
By ConsRule
16 Jun 2023 3:13 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
16 Jun 2023 3:13 pm
The only thing people in this country illegally should get free is a plane ride back to their country of origin.
16 Jun 2023 3:21 pm
How does gov't help poor people? Teaching them to demand equal outcome tomorrow as equally arrived today just another reproduction living eternally separated now in their own one time event of adapting in space never same results twice fertilized cell to decomposed corpse beit death arrived by abortion or old age and any other means of dying socially took place between.
16 Jun 2023 3:34 pm
"Known as supply side economics" describes how it was socially defined by speculation and history of social consensus ignoring the universal constant equally timing each reproduction specifically here for their specific time arrived since conceived and departed with death still evolving in a reverse evolved results.razoo » 16 Jun 2023, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑ Also known as Supply Side Economics aka Wreckanomics ..............
Called decomposition, genetic erosion of previous existences evolving in real time with last 5 generation gaps occupying time now one at a time as the specific 8 billion alive.
16 Jun 2023 3:44 pm
Corporations donate overwhelmingly to dimocrat candidates. Dimocrats take those corporate shekels and go on a anti-corporatism campaign. Dimocrats win control. Corporate kickbacks (aka: subsidies) continue on.
Rinse and repeat.
Rinse and repeat.
16 Jun 2023 3:51 pm
glad you recognize Biden's folly!razoo » 16 Jun 2023, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑ Also known as Supply Side Economics aka Wreckanomics ..............
16 Jun 2023 4:45 pm
I give big props to Mariannerazoo » 16 Jun 2023, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑ The Working EconomyTaking Back Our Democracy From Corporate Influence
Beneath every issue in American politics lies a deeper one, and nowhere is this truer than with our economy. At this time in our history, our economic system doesn’t serve our democratic values.
Beginning in the 1980s, an economic perspective which deems market forces our most appropriate organizing principle, began to infiltrate both American politics and American consciousness.
According to this view, the fiduciary responsibility of corporations to serve short-term profit maximization of their stockholders – with no particular ethical responsibility to other stakeholders such as workers, community or environment – began to replace democracy as our primary organizing principle.
Advocacy for the well-being of citizens and the planet was now to be brokered by market forces, which alone were deemed the appropriate arbiter of our social good.
The real wealth of our nation lies not in corporate profits, but in our people. Investing in care is both humane and good for our economy.
This view represented a radical departure from a most basic value in our Declaration of Independence: that, “God gave all men the inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” and that “governments were instituted among men to secure these rights.”
Yet today, our government functions more to secure the rights of multinational corporations to make more money for their stockholders than it does to secure the rights of We the People.
This shift away from our core principles was sold to the American people on the basis that so much money transferred to our corporate overlords would result in more money for everyone else as well.
American middle class has been decimated.
From huge corporate subsidies, to tax breaks for the very wealthy, to deregulation of even the most fundamental protections, to greater and greater permission given to moneyed interests to flood our political system, to the proverbial “revolving door” practice between corporate and government leaders, the American people have been played.
Why would a huge multinational corporation – with no particular allegiance to the American worker – feel any remorse about closing an American factory and relocating it to another country?
Particularly when the Supreme Court of the United States granted to companies the preposterous notion of “corporate personhood,” billions and even trillions of dollars started flowing in the direction of a system deeming itself responsible only to its stockholders.
For all intents and purposes, our government has become a handmaiden to a new corporate order; it has surrendered to those whom President Franklin Roosevelt called “economic royalists.”
Just as an individual can dwell in denial, so can an entire group. Today, the American people are in denial if we think that the existence and perpetuation of our democracy is guaranteed.
In order to override the tyrannous effects of an authoritarian corporatism that has now infiltrated the highest levels of our government, we must rise up en masse and elect a new wave of officials deeply dedicated to the democratic ideal.
https://marianne2024.com/issues/the-working-economy/
she will call out both parties, we need more like her
16 Jun 2023 4:49 pm
every third party wannabe, calls out the top two in charge denying the same **** every third part does. hey how does a three party system work within 5 generation gaps ignoring the same thing?Mrkelly » 16 Jun 2023, 4:45 pm » wrote: ↑ I give big props to Marianne
she will call out both parties, we need more like her
same as the other two.
16 Jun 2023 5:10 pm
overwhelmingly?Warcok » 16 Jun 2023, 3:44 pm » wrote: ↑ Corporations donate overwhelmingly to dimocrat candidates. Dimocrats take those corporate shekels and go on a anti-corporatism campaign. Dimocrats win control. Corporate kickbacks (aka: subsidies) continue on.
Rinse and repeat.
Took a quick look
looks pretty neck to neck to me
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/how-wa ... 022-11-08/
16 Jun 2023 5:13 pm
razoo » 16 Jun 2023, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑ Also known as Supply Side Economics aka Wreckanomics ..............
What did you pay last year in taxes, fruitcake?
16 Jun 2023 5:19 pm
I imagine your a tax payee and not a tax payer......you fart mouths usually are.
16 Jun 2023 6:58 pm
hey numb nuts, how does one donate a tax break?razoo » 16 Jun 2023, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑ The Working EconomyTaking Back Our Democracy From Corporate Influence
Beneath every issue in American politics lies a deeper one, and nowhere is this truer than with our economy. At this time in our history, our economic system doesn’t serve our democratic values.
Beginning in the 1980s, an economic perspective which deems market forces our most appropriate organizing principle, began to infiltrate both American politics and American consciousness.
According to this view, the fiduciary responsibility of corporations to serve short-term profit maximization of their stockholders – with no particular ethical responsibility to other stakeholders such as workers, community or environment – began to replace democracy as our primary organizing principle.
Advocacy for the well-being of citizens and the planet was now to be brokered by market forces, which alone were deemed the appropriate arbiter of our social good.
The real wealth of our nation lies not in corporate profits, but in our people. Investing in care is both humane and good for our economy.
This view represented a radical departure from a most basic value in our Declaration of Independence: that, “God gave all men the inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” and that “governments were instituted among men to secure these rights.”
Yet today, our government functions more to secure the rights of multinational corporations to make more money for their stockholders than it does to secure the rights of We the People.
This shift away from our core principles was sold to the American people on the basis that so much money transferred to our corporate overlords would result in more money for everyone else as well.
American middle class has been decimated.
From huge corporate subsidies, to tax breaks for the very wealthy, to deregulation of even the most fundamental protections, to greater and greater permission given to moneyed interests to flood our political system, to the proverbial “revolving door” practice between corporate and government leaders, the American people have been played.
Why would a huge multinational corporation – with no particular allegiance to the American worker – feel any remorse about closing an American factory and relocating it to another country?
Particularly when the Supreme Court of the United States granted to companies the preposterous notion of “corporate personhood,” billions and even trillions of dollars started flowing in the direction of a system deeming itself responsible only to its stockholders.
For all intents and purposes, our government has become a handmaiden to a new corporate order; it has surrendered to those whom President Franklin Roosevelt called “economic royalists.”
Just as an individual can dwell in denial, so can an entire group. Today, the American people are in denial if we think that the existence and perpetuation of our democracy is guaranteed.
In order to override the tyrannous effects of an authoritarian corporatism that has now infiltrated the highest levels of our government, we must rise up en masse and elect a new wave of officials deeply dedicated to the democratic ideal.
https://marianne2024.com/issues/the-working-economy/
16 Jun 2023 7:04 pm
**** ****...the democrats spent all that money giving it away to lazy assed libtards who didn't want to work during Covid...razoo » 16 Jun 2023, 3:50 pm » wrote: ↑ Deseret News
https://www.deseret.com › u-s-world › trump-administ...
Jan 23, 2023 — The national debt level went up by $7.8 trillion during President Donald Trump's time in office, according to U.S. treasury data.
((( this in just in 4 years so we can assume that TRump would add $15.6 trillion if given another 4 years. He is a reckless spender.))))))) so says Razoo ........
project much kazoo...
16 Jun 2023 7:05 pm
razoo » 16 Jun 2023, 3:53 pm » wrote: ↑ Jan 23, 2023 — The national debt level went up by $7.8 trillion during President Donald Trump's time in office, according to U.S. treasury data.
((( this in just in 4 years so we can assume that TRump would add $15.6 trillion if given another 4 years. He is a reckless spender.))))))) so says Razoo ........
16 Jun 2023 8:44 pm
16 Jun 2023 9:37 pm
razoo » 16 Jun 2023, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑ Also known as Supply Side Economics aka Wreckanomics ..............
IT'S CALLED BANKRUPTING THE NATION, BUFFOON.
YOU REALLY HAVE NO CLUE. YOU SPEW A LOT OF GIBBERISH
16 Jun 2023 10:05 pm
REAGANOMICS HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND/OR THEIR EMPLOYMENT
FRUITCAKE
17 Jun 2023 6:28 am
Wonderful representation for large corporation groups, little or no representation for the individual citizen, 180 backwards.
Target is a subsidized retail corporation selling foreign made products from a tax subsidized retail mall area that was built on land that was formerly occupied by a 30 year old hydraulic parts manufacturing plant building that was torn down via tax subsidies money,
Corporation groups have become the tax that American citizens pay before they are sent down the road with nothing but a few clothes and some experimental injection identification paperwork.
When God and the bible is removed you have a life with only the things that can be seen at arms length, when manufacturing is removed you have less things in your possession that can be seen at arms length.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnazrUI0y34
Target is a subsidized retail corporation selling foreign made products from a tax subsidized retail mall area that was built on land that was formerly occupied by a 30 year old hydraulic parts manufacturing plant building that was torn down via tax subsidies money,
Corporation groups have become the tax that American citizens pay before they are sent down the road with nothing but a few clothes and some experimental injection identification paperwork.
When God and the bible is removed you have a life with only the things that can be seen at arms length, when manufacturing is removed you have less things in your possession that can be seen at arms length.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnazrUI0y34
17 Jun 2023 6:31 am
again kazoo, how do you donate a tax break?razoo » 16 Jun 2023, 9:59 pm » wrote: ↑ Go ask the fake republican party since 1980 ===== fake repubs donate a tax break to the 1% annually aka welfare for the wealthy.
17 Jun 2023 6:43 am
Combined local, county, state, federal, global export and import taxes or just income tax? Ranges from 20% to 56%.
17 Jun 2023 7:03 am
Disciple of doubt always demands rights to ignore how and why they exist equally tmed apart now. Real devil's advocates never acknowledging the actual way evolving happens as their brain navigates controlling everything each reality believes possible without ever knowing what isn't.razoo » 17 Jun 2023, 6:58 am » wrote: ↑ Wrong again ==== Welfare for the wealthy began in earnest under Reagan/Bush = the fake repubs were born and
welfare for the wealthy just keeps coming.
Reagan/Bush opened the flood gates for immgrants to enter the USA as a tool for busting unions and good wages
at the same time.
Tax rates mean nothing after tax dollar loopholes are established however they are designed for the wealthy thus lots of wealthy folks and corporations pay none. Subsidies are welfare for the USA corporations.
anyone capable of describing what isn't possible will face ridicule, shunned by own family, exiled by their own ideology, executed for the greater good of all realities combined serving intellectual freedom from accepting how evolving never exceeds being alive now.
Power of choice vs power of suggestion legislating morality, legality, ethics, economic value to timeless ways evolving never sustains same ancestors again here now.
realities enable corruption forward, not correcting it as historically implemented into current events.
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