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razoo » 19 Jun 2023, 8:59 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 8:59 am

BTW none of you has proved me wrong AND CANNOT PROVE ME WRONG.......

When you get complain about your $100 pizza at the local sub joint, make sure you talk with the golden parachuted CEO.    
 
 

BuckNaked » 19 Jun 2023, 8:07 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 8:07 am

razoo is a sok of who?

Is razoo a sock?


 

razoo » 19 Jun 2023, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 9:07 am

$64,500 IS WHAT KEEPS THE BEST WORKERS ON THE JOB AND PAY FOR THEMSELVES ........... DAMN RIGHT.

So you started a business and did that?

razoo » 19 Jun 2023, 8:59 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 8:59 am

Some grocery stores do pay very good wages by the way ...... $20.00 per hour or more. This is real life.


 

Those people are called managers.    

razoo » 19 Jun 2023, 6:13 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 6:13 am

$17.50 per hour is $33,000 per year thus $35 per hour is $66,000 per year which would eliminate the need for food stamps for a ton of people.

What's wrong with that?

And $66,000 a year would push up economic growth which is a good thing.

What's wrong with that?

If CEO's would cut their salaries by 50% and eliminate golden parachutes the cost of goods would not increase 
paying workers $66,000 a year.

yeah, that's it, give em money instead of stamps

but....I'm all for limiting Public companies CEO's that get "appointed"salaries.ad benefits.
If however, you buy, own, or start your own company, the skies the limit.
 

razoo » 19 Jun 2023, 8:59 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 8:59 am

Stop bitching about food stamps and pay all workers no less than 17.50 per hour which is APPROXIMATELY $36,400 per year .......... which might make some still eligible for assistance depending on residential location.

Some grocery stores do pay very good wages by the way ...... $20.00 per hour or more. This is real life.

BTW none of you has proved me wrong AND CANNOT PROVE ME WRONG....... all that has been provided has proved none can provide hard evidence. Insults and intimidation does not equal hard evidence. TRump is a terrible business manager which is why he had to get bailed out by Russia and such. Banks in America quit financing his reckless lifestyle.

Russia and China has got the fake republican party by the throat. Not only that Rump and his few friends keep ripping off "constituents" by the millions of dollars in order to keep their phoney big spending lifestyles alive.

IF ANYONE COULD PROVE ME WRONG IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ............... got cha

Small businesses make up 99% of ALL employers.

Just raising the minimum wage from $7.25/hour to $15.00/hour will cause
1. Layoffs and/or eliminate most entry level jobs, and/or cutting of hours and/or reducing benefits...will that help those laid off workers?  
2. Price increases, and worst of all
3. business closures.

Most likely all of the above.

Your one stupid **** not to understand that!!!

PROVE ME WRONG, *******!!!


 

A rising tide lifts all boats, but what they fail to tell you is that it also lifts the price of boat slips.

razoo » 19 Jun 2023, 6:13 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 6:13 am

$17.50 per hour is $33,000 per year thus $35 per hour is $66,000 per year which would eliminate the need for food stamps for a ton of people.

What's wrong with that?

And $66,000 a year would push up economic growth which is a good thing.

What's wrong with that?

If CEO's would cut their salaries by 50% and eliminate golden parachutes the cost of goods would not increase 
paying workers $66,000 a year.

Nothing if you can get it...problem being kazoo, yer a ****...
 

A rising ship will be capsized

by wetbacks and ***


       

razoo » 19 Jun 2023, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 9:07 am

$64,500 IS WHAT KEEPS THE BEST WORKERS ON THE JOB AND PAY FOR THEMSELVES ........... DAMN RIGHT.

 

Z09 » 19 Jun 2023, 8:55 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 8:55 am

How can you push economic growth by doubling the prices on products???


 

Why do you ignore he isn't accounting for taxes on the gross income. He never stated the numbers were net take home pay. Just the wages taxes come out of.

You sure cannot see very well with his voodoo economics and smoking mirrors policy wonking.

LincolnNebraska » 19 Jun 2023, 9:08 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 9:08 am

Is razoo a sock?

He's an asshole.

you are right . something must be done. raising wages is a lazy answer. and would only create massive inflation. and fewer jobs. balancing incomes with spending of workers is the answer. how. use tax dollars to provide free utilities, rather than wasting dollars on boggy man wars. spend a trillion to kill the boggy man, and what do you get? spend a trillion on reducing utility bills, and what do you get. reduced expenses forever. /// put the unemployed to work building quality public shelters, that workers could afford. /// look at your cost of living. just think how great it would be if you had no utility bills? past civilizations did it. china moving in that direction. you are correct; the usa system is one that allows you to own everything. with no regard of social harmony. /// if congress is not shut down. usa is headed for a blood bath.

Z09 » 19 Jun 2023, 7:03 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 7:03 pm

Do you think the cost of doing business might go up?

It is designed to go up, under planned obsolescence sustaining reasonable doubt used against people that follow a faith now isn't eternity and genetics cannot possibly eternally separate existing ancestors occupying time now.

Hell of a deep state of mind secret, isn't it? So simple it worked for 350-400 generation gaps and counting.

razoo » 19 Jun 2023, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 7:33 pm

NO NO NO NO NO = cost is split among the cost of doing business........ 

White collars must take a cut to cover the wage increase = kind of what fascist conservatives want to do on the debt ceiling .........

As long as margin is holding all will be well. It's a lot like a few items on the produce rack increase in price so there are 97 items in the produce department = split the difference 97 ways which might come to a 3 cent increase to all 97 items = margin is still holding strong.

Hey "genius", tell us in ANY BUSINESS what is the MOST EXPENSIVE item under "cost of doing business"??

GO, since you seem to think you can "spread the cost around" in ways that NO BUSINESS EVER BEFORE HAS DONE!! AND CAN'T DO for LEGITIMATE BUSINESS REASONS!!!

Z09 » 20 Jun 2023, 6:18 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2023, 6:18 am

You make no sense.
Zero.

I gave you a pizza example.
If you give the guy $35.00 an hour that prepares the pizza and the guy that delivers the pizza $35.00 an hour do you really think you can sell that pizza for $8.99???

bozoo ( @razoo  ) is likely a 14 year old idiot who has been indoctrinated into his little SOCIALIST WORLD of "Utopia is right around the corner if we just do this" and then the part of "We can make Socialism work if only WE are in charge".

Which is the ABJECT LIE that has been floating around for CENTURIES now.

Funny how he can't show me ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE of how his ideology has actually WORKED anywhere it's been tried. NOT A SINGLE INSTANCE!!

Beekeeper » 20 Jun 2023, 6:13 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2023, 6:13 am

Hey "genius", tell us in ANY BUSINESS what is the MOST EXPENSIVE item under "cost of doing business"??

GO, since you seem to think you can "spread the cost around" in ways that NO BUSINESS EVER BEFORE HAS DONE!! AND CAN'T DO for LEGITIMATE BUSINESS REASONS!!!

Taxes and costs to follow regulations by law and social policies controlling behavior of leaderships and fellowships by those having foreign and domestic diplomatic immunity from laws ordering people to perform as typecast or else be punished several ways not staying in legal stereotyped behavior.

Z09 » 20 Jun 2023, 6:18 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2023, 6:18 am

You make no sense.
Zero.

I gave you a pizza example.
If you give the guy $35.00 an hour that prepares the pizza and the guy that delivers the pizza $35.00 an hour do you really think you can sell that pizza for $8.99???

Example for razz from Forbes:Here’s an example: the total payroll for a small pizza parlor with 10 employees, earning on average $10 per hour and working 2,000 hours total a year is $200,000. Selling an average of 100 pizzas a day for $10 each for 365 days totals $365,000 in revenue. The remaining $165,000 after labor costs covers rent, utilities, etc. and the owner’s income. Mandating a minimum wage of $15 per hour is an increase of $5 per hour which would raise labor costs by $100,000. The $100,000 in additional labor costs from a $15 minimum wage increase would likely bankrupt the business, leaving the owner with some difficult decisions on whether to close the business or radically adjust business operations to absorb the increased cost.

If the owner decides to remain open, their options to absorb costs are limited, and none of them good. Laying off one employee would save $30,000, but the job opportunity is lost permanently and that employee’s income from that position is now zero. Three fewer workers would cut labor costs by $90,000, but could seven workers produce the same 100 pizzas per day? The owners could also reduce employee hours, although same problem applies. The owner could use cheaper ingredients or reduce the amount of ingredients, that would save money, but lowers the quality of the product and risks customer loyalty. Raising the price of pizza could make up the loss, but would fewer people now opt for pizza? An increase of $3 per pizza could do it, as long as the higher price did not discourage customers, which it will with competition from larger pizza businesses that can survive with smaller profit margins. The owner could also suspend future raises for the most productive or experienced employees, creating wage compression that erodes employee morale. The owner could also accept a lower income, reducing the incentive to own the business at all.

In reality, all of this will happen to varying degrees. Of those employers reporting that they would be negatively impacted,·     
  89% report that they would experience lower earnings,·     
  58% would decrease their number of employees,·    
   60% would reduce employee hours,·       
67% would leave an open position unfilled,·       
87% would raise prices and
56% would increase their number of part-time employees.

Higher mandated costs make starting a business, weathering economic downturns, and competing with large businesses far more difficult. Every mandated dollar increase in the minimum wage is paid for by somebody else, and for small businesses it’s often not paid for by those who can “afford” it. Total income and total spending don’t change. There are winners, but also losers. Higher prices for customers, reduced profits for small employers, lost income for those who lose a job, those who experience reduced hours, and those who want basic work experience and have a more difficult time finding job opportunities all pay for the higher minimum wage. They are all severely impacted in response to a hike in the minimum wage.


Clearly, razz is **** and clueless...
 
 
 

Buffalo » 20 Jun 2023, 7:11 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2023, 7:11 am

Example for razz from Forbes:Here’s an example: the total payroll for a small pizza parlor with 10 employees, earning on average $10 per hour and working 2,000 hours total a year is $200,000. Selling an average of 100 pizzas a day for $10 each for 365 days totals $365,000 in revenue. The remaining $165,000 after labor costs covers rent, utilities, etc. and the owner’s income. Mandating a minimum wage of $15 per hour is an increase of $5 per hour which would raise labor costs by $100,000. The $100,000 in additional labor costs from a $15 minimum wage increase would likely bankrupt the business, leaving the owner with some difficult decisions on whether to close the business or radically adjust business operations to absorb the increased cost.

If the owner decides to remain open, their options to absorb costs are limited, and none of them good. Laying off one employee would save $30,000, but the job opportunity is lost permanently and that employee’s income from that position is now zero. Three fewer workers would cut labor costs by $90,000, but could seven workers produce the same 100 pizzas per day? The owners could also reduce employee hours, although same problem applies. The owner could use cheaper ingredients or reduce the amount of ingredients, that would save money, but lowers the quality of the product and risks customer loyalty. Raising the price of pizza could make up the loss, but would fewer people now opt for pizza? An increase of $3 per pizza could do it, as long as the higher price did not discourage customers, which it will with competition from larger pizza businesses that can survive with smaller profit margins. The owner could also suspend future raises for the most productive or experienced employees, creating wage compression that erodes employee morale. The owner could also accept a lower income, reducing the incentive to own the business at all.

In reality, all of this will happen to varying degrees. Of those employers reporting that they would be negatively impacted,·     
  89% report that they would experience lower earnings,·     
  58% would decrease their number of employees,·    
   60% would reduce employee hours,·       
67% would leave an open position unfilled,·       
87% would raise prices and
56% would increase their number of part-time employees.

Higher mandated costs make starting a business, weathering economic downturns, and competing with large businesses far more difficult. Every mandated dollar increase in the minimum wage is paid for by somebody else, and for small businesses it’s often not paid for by those who can “afford” it. Total income and total spending don’t change. There are winners, but also losers. Higher prices for customers, reduced profits for small employers, lost income for those who lose a job, those who experience reduced hours, and those who want basic work experience and have a more difficult time finding job opportunities all pay for the higher minimum wage. They are all severely impacted in response to a hike in the minimum wage.

Clearly, razz is **** and clueless...

And this is on a SMALL SCALE operation. But bozoo thinks that the OWNERS of these businesses can CUT THEIR SALARY and absorb ALL of that DOUBLING of wages and keep prices identically the same.

He's an EFFING IDIOT and has ZERO CLUES about how to operate ANY business or ANY SIZE.

razoo » 19 Jun 2023, 6:13 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2023, 6:13 am

$17.50 per hour is $33,000 per year thus $35 per hour is $66,000 per year which would eliminate the need for food stamps for a ton of people.

What's wrong with that?

And $66,000 a year would push up economic growth which is a good thing.

What's wrong with that?

If CEO's would cut their salaries by 50% and eliminate golden parachutes the cost of goods would not increase 
paying workers $66,000 a year.

You suck at math.

If Christopher Kempczinski, President and CEO of a little Mom and Pop burger joint called McDonald's Corporation split his entire yearly salary and compensations package among all of his employees equally, each employee would receive $90 annually, and still couldn't afford to eat at McDonald's, retard.