$17.50 per hour is $33,000 per year thus $35 per hour is $66,000 per year which would eliminate the need for food stamps

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                   People are paid based on what their job skills (or lack of ) are worth to an employer in the market place --- not on lifestyle choices or the fact they consume oxygen and are therefore entitled. 
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Nostradamus'omh » 28 Jun 2023, 7:16 am » wrote: What a completely evasive post about the whole equally created "We the people" protect character role playing until extinction arrives..

think I will nickname you Catlin, instead of Bruce. You have changed your genetics from chromosomes to syllables.
All of life involves compromises and risk taking.

Over a million Americans have died from Covid 19, and that number includes hundreds of thousands of Republicans too afraid or stubborn to get their shots.

Should the government in the future only offer shots to Democrats, who have enough common sense to get them?

No. A humane government doubles down trying to convince Republicans to get their shots.

There is an obvious problem of income disparity in this nation. Most of it is among less educated Republicans. By far, it’s Republicans who labor at low paying jobs in Red States. What should  the government do?

The only long term remedy is public education, which lifts all boats.

But millions of Trump supporters would get a raise if the minimum wage was gradually, over a period of years, raised to $15 an hour.

The longer we wait, the more pain it will cause.
 
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Kobia2 » 28 Jun 2023, 7:19 am » wrote:                    People are paid based on what their job skills (or lack of ) are worth to an employer in the market place --- not on lifestyle choices or the fact they consume oxygen and are therefore entitled. 
When you look at video of the worthies outside a Trump rally, they aren’t ever going to land a $28.75 an hour job at a new battery factory.

To believe in Q Anon, stolen elections, and George Soros and Bill Gates and Dr Fauci are conspiring to kill us all means a life of low paying jobs.

The problem is not, the Pillow Guy earns too much.

He should pay his workers about half the average wage, is all the government can legislate.

 
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31st Arrival
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Bruce » 28 Jun 2023, 7:31 am » wrote: All of life involves compromises and risk taking.
 
I call **** on your opening line.

Every reality involves compromising away biological time to honor relative time semantics cradle to grave, not life evolving in real time.

Predator prey have a symbiotic relationships for the whole food chain, eat the weakened so the most able to survive breed a next generation gap. In real time the law of the moment is adapt or become extinct regardless individual reproduction, ancestral lineage, species, nature of which side predatory or prey, male, female, or asexual means of adding next generation gaps present or never the species exists again, composed in syllables reality promising better tomorrows than genetics maintains numbers present arriving one at a time never duplicated a previous addition forward now.

You really need to comprehend thermodynamic principles inside out.
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Bruce » 28 Jun 2023, 7:15 am » wrote: From 1943 to 1962 the highest personal tax rate was 90% of income in the top bracket.  JFK lowered to top bracket, to 70%.

It wasn’t until Jimmy Carter until a 50% cap was placed but only for “earned income”.

Yes, the nation was wealthy from 1943 to 1978.

But rich people didn’t pay 90% or 70% or even half their income. A few unfortunate professional athletes got busted and sent to prison for tax evasion, but the rich found loopholes.

I’m on your side.

But this isn’t easy, it never has been easy, and never will be easy to raise minimum wage so that the least paid workers, who have almost no bargaining power, have a slightly easier time of fighting the battle of life.

The problem isn’t the wealthy earn too much.

The problem is to have wage laws that force the wealthy to have business models to pay the bottom scale workers about half the average wage.

And, every nation around the world has the same problem.

None set minimum wages much more than half the average wage.
DO YOU REALIZE that you are fully supporting the FASCIST and COMMUNIST ideology of "equal wages" for everyone' right, ****??

You NAZI POS need to be exterminated like you do COCKROACHES!!
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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Nostradamus'omh » 28 Jun 2023, 7:50 am » wrote: I call **** on your opening line.

Every reality involves compromising away biological time to honor relative time semantics cradle to grave, not life evolving in real time.

Predator prey have a symbiotic relationships for the whole food chain, eat the weakened so the most able to survive breed a next generation gap. In real time the law of the moment is adapt or become extinct regardless individual reproduction, ancestral lineage, species, nature of which side predatory or prey, male, female, or asexual means of adding next generation gaps present or never the species exists again, composed in syllables reality promising better tomorrows than genetics maintains numbers present arriving one at a time never duplicated a previous addition forward now.

You really need to comprehend thermodynamic principles inside out.
The ultimate minimum wage was chattel slavery.

In the USA it took four years of war and a half million dead Americans to end it.

So now that one man cannot own other men, we must try to prevent him scheming to replace chattel slavery with wage slavery.

Don’t feel too sorry for the billionaires who have businesses models paying at or near minimum wage.  They rely on their workers getting food stamps and other social welfare programs to exist.  Republicans never protest welfare for the wealthy.

The most essential government services after defense, a legal system, and providing a currency is the public school system, which Republicans would shut down tomorrow if they only could.

The last time minimum wage was raised, it was about 40% of the average wage after three years of increases.

Had it been indexed to 40% the minimum wage would now be $11.50, and if at 50% then $14.40.

And we’d still buy fast food cheeseburgers, and the world would not end.



 
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Bruce » 28 Jun 2023, 7:38 am » wrote: When you look at video of the worthies outside a Trump rally, they aren’t ever going to land a $28.75 an hour job at a new battery factory.

To believe in Q Anon, stolen elections, and George Soros and Bill Gates and Dr Fauci are conspiring to kill us all means a life of low paying jobs.

The problem is not, the Pillow Guy earns too much.

He should pay his workers about half the average wage, is all the government can legislate.
          I suggest you take a stroll down any low income / high crime inner city demographic -- or Pride Event to see the Democrat voter base on full display.... None of the Trump folks I know are looking to the Government to confiscate from others in order to support them --- those are your people... This is a fundamental difference between us --- we want less Government intervention in our lives -- you demand more. 

          You seem to have a very short memory, (not an unusual occurrence for Liberals)... You bring up allegations of stolen elections --- but not a word about it all beginning with Hillary and her ****-up Russia gate lies... for 4 years you assholes were screaming Trump was not legitimately elected, and was not your President.. You forgot the riots and mayhem committed by your own tribe on Trump's inauguration day.. All completely based on a hoaxc & lies.. 

         As for the My Pillow employees --- that is between  labor & management... They are welcome to organize, and go the route of collective bargaining if they choose... But keep in mind, their wages seem to be inline, especially when you take in account benefits such as 
 Health Wellness: Medical, dental (including orthodontia coverage), and vision coverageSupplemental Insurance (cancer, accident, and hospitalization)

        Regarding Fauci --- YOU folks were the first to howl against Fauci, Trump and anyone else who immediately sought to restrict Travel from China in order to slow the Covid spread... You don't remember the cries of Racism, or Nancy Pelosi inviting people to dance in the streets of China Town in protest?... 
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Bruce » 28 Jun 2023, 10:45 am » wrote: The ultimate minimum wage was chattel slavery.

In the USA it took four years of war and a half million dead Americans to end it.

So now that one man cannot own other men, we must try to prevent him scheming to replace chattel slavery with wage slavery.

Don’t feel too sorry for the billionaires who have businesses models paying at or near minimum wage.  They rely on their workers getting food stamps and other social welfare programs to exist.  Republicans never protest welfare for the wealthy.

The most essential government services after defense, a legal system, and providing a currency is the public school system, which Republicans would shut down tomorrow if they only could.

The last time minimum wage was raised, it was about 40% of the average wage after three years of increases.

Had it been indexed to 40% the minimum wage would now be $11.50, and if at 50% then $14.40.

And we’d still buy fast food cheeseburgers, and the world would not end.
Dear Caitlyn Syllables,

You ever do the compounding equation of take a penny a day and double the total sum every day?
Now use your social mind trained by that speculation and thing ancestors instead of coins/currency.

Origins of our species came about through genetic ancestral lineages so far. Each ancestral lineage came from a mutation of previous species in specific geographical areas of this atmosphere in a time of natural disasters affecting the original food chain that specifically develops currently changing past arrived and future beginning here each reproduction adding a following generation gap changing population left evolving forward now one ata time or not.

Simple compounding of currency works same way to simple compounding chromosomes works the same ways as compounding molecular content perpetually changing each cycle perpetually balancing forward here now.

Where is the core time that happens for each specific result occupying time here now? location, location, location, geometrically displaced, geologically combined, geographically universally timed apart in plain sight?

Kinetic self evident evolving corrected intellectually chasing anything else is possible throughout history of managing other people's time contextually here now.

Moral of this post and every post I ever make is, power of suggestion corrupts every character saving humanity's dream state of mind demanding everyone believe now isn't eternity or be eliminated from social interaction forward here now.

rule of law is an ally to people commanding ancestors to obey ideas or else. Tyranny regardless dictatorship or democracy protecting deniers in charge each generation gap added.

Nobody does it alone. It cannot happen by physical force constantly, so what else is at play where a species preys upon itself 24/7 ancestrally within each generation gap every generation historically ignoring now is eternity?

I understand where your mentality came from and where it is leading. Any narrative, any direction. any ;language, any generation gap changed or changing interpretations of space being alive now can happen any other way coming at me from any angle of denying now is eternity.

I am evolving here one at a time same as any other ancestor genetically passed through being alive here now. Personal experience created my own history and those not learning from personal history are bound to repeat what corrupted their ancestry so far.
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Kobia2 » 28 Jun 2023, 8:54 pm » wrote:           I suggest you take a stroll down any low income / high crime inner city demographic -- or Pride Event to see the Democrat voter base on full display.... None of the Trump folks I know are looking to the Government to confiscate from others in order to support them --- those are your people... This is a fundamental difference between us --- we want less Government intervention in our lives -- you demand more. 

          You seem to have a very short memory, (not an unusual occurrence for Liberals)... You bring up allegations of stolen elections --- but not a word about it all beginning with Hillary and her ****-up Russia gate lies... for 4 years you assholes were screaming Trump was not legitimately elected, and was not your President.. You forgot the riots and mayhem committed by your own tribe on Trump's inauguration day.. All completely based on a hoaxc & lies.. 

         As for the My Pillow employees --- that is between  labor & management... They are welcome to organize, and go the route of collective bargaining if they choose... But keep in mind, their wages seem to be inline, especially when you take in account benefits such as 
 Health Wellness: Medical, dental (including orthodontia coverage), and vision coverageSupplemental Insurance (cancer, accident, and hospitalization)

        Regarding Fauci --- YOU folks were the first to howl against Fauci, Trump and anyone else who immediately sought to restrict Travel from China in order to slow the Covid spread... You don't remember the cries of Racism, or Nancy Pelosi inviting people to dance in the streets of China Town in protest?... 
Great post.
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razoo » 29 Jun 2023, 5:17 am » wrote: Actually $33,000 a year will not pay the rent, utilities , clothing for the family thus food assistance will still be necessary in some cases. What a concept paying workers enough money to sustain themselves. Workers make 
employers wealthy .......

In related news, James Comer reports overseas' payments to the Biden Crime Syndicate have exceeded $40 million dollars to date.... with more being found every day.

The guy you voted for...... so keep flapping your jaws that seem to have a disconnect with your brain.
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Z09 » 29 Jun 2023, 6:06 am » wrote: Amazing huh ...?

Have you noticed the lack of interest from the media?

We have millions being wired to the Biden's from other and the media says little

Bidenomics......any crack head can become a millionaire. 
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Bruce » 28 Jun 2023, 7:31 am » wrote: All of life involves compromises and risk taking.

Over a million Americans have died from Covid 19, and that number includes hundreds of thousands of Republicans too afraid or stubborn to get their shots.

Should the government in the future only offer shots to Democrats, who have enough common sense to get them?

No. A humane government doubles down trying to convince Republicans to get their shots.

There is an obvious problem of income disparity in this nation. Most of it is among less educated Republicans. By far, it’s Republicans who labor at low paying jobs in Red States. What should  the government do?

The only long term remedy is public education, which lifts all boats.

But millions of Trump supporters would get a raise if the minimum wage was gradually, over a period of years, raised to $15 an hour.

The longer we wait, the more pain it will cause.
Far more people died with COVID than from COVID... and the Government went passed the point of "trying to convince" people to get the jab. They were moving into the "get it or else" territory in a lot of sectors.

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RedheadedStranger » 29 Jun 2023, 6:43 am » wrote: Far more people died with COVID than from COVID... and the Government went passed the point of "trying to convince" people to get the jab. They were moving into the "get it or else" territory in a lot of sectors.

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I’m older than Fox News.

My parents were both Republicans, but the Eisenhower kind. If my mother had caught me watching some kind of hateful propaganda that constantly bashes public schools, civic responsibility, minorities, women, labor, traditional religious liberty, and vaccinations she’d have bashed in my brains with a stove poker.  I would have not survived to see the sun rise another day.

I think an entire generation was permissibly raised to think that “me” is the most important being in the universe.

Otherwise how do you explain people dying rather than getting a free vaccine?

Lucky for this nation we no longer depend on a draft.

Folks afraid of Dr Fauci and needles wouldn’t be so tough on Omaha Beach, would they?

 
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Bruce » 29 Jun 2023, 7:55 am » wrote: I’m older than Fox News.

My parents were both Republicans, but the Eisenhower kind. If my mother had caught me watching some kind of hateful propaganda that constantly bashes public schools, civic responsibility, minorities, women, labor, traditional religious liberty, and vaccinations she’d have bashed in my brains with a stove poker.  I would have not survived to see the sun rise another day.

I think an entire generation was permissibly raised to think that “me” is the most important being in the universe.

Otherwise how do you explain people dying rather than getting a free vaccine?

Lucky for this nation we no longer depend on a draft.

Folks afraid of Dr Fauci and needles wouldn’t be so tough on Omaha Beach, would they?
You mastered intellectual debate, but never learned timing with adapt or become extinct situation lasting 24/7 all the time you ARE LIVING BETWEEN WOMB TO TOMB HERE NOW.

hey Caitlyn Syllables, how is that mind over matter reality going? imploding all around your time stuck in your own skin?
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How much reparations should be paid and to who exactly?
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Nostradamus'omh » 29 Jun 2023, 8:01 am » wrote: You mastered intellectual debate, but never learned timing with adapt or become extinct situation lasting 24/7 all the time you ARE LIVING BETWEEN WOMB TO TOMB HERE NOW.

hey Caitlyn Syllables, how is that mind over matter reality going? imploding all around your time stuck in your own skin?
Although I was resided up a conservative Christian I have nothing but faith, that the Lord will allow the righteous an eternity in heaven, and punish the wicked in everlasting fire.

This life is the only one, we can be certain of.

Being gullible, afraid, cowering, hateful, bigoted, judgmental, prejudiced and cynical is a bad way to live this one life we know we have.

But in case there is a Judgement Day, as I believe there will be, then no observant and devout Christian should risk their immortal soul running with the MAGA crowd.

It might be actually true, you know?

 
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Z09 » 29 Jun 2023, 9:36 am » wrote: How do YOU explain that American workers were fired for not getting the vaccine.....
......But illegals didn't have to be vaccinated...??

Tell us
If I were in charge you’d send your kids to school and you’d get your shots or else you’d go to jail.

Strict and conservative homes sixty years ago did not tolerate school truancy or cowardice about getting a shot.

There isn’t one noble thing to be said about either.
 
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Here is an idea you stupid libs. Quit demanding businesses pay more. START YOUR OWN and pay what you want. YOU **** PUSSIES
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Z09 » 29 Jun 2023, 6:09 am » wrote: How many Trump supporters are making under $15.00 an hour?

Like you know...
The little town I’m from voted 80% for Trump.

Every child in the 1200 student school system qualifies for free, not reduced price, but free breakfasts, lunches, and take home buddy packs.

MAGA means poverty, ignorance, disease, and despair.

Missouri has a $12 minimum wage, and all the people that got a little raise were against it.

Fifty years ago when I was taught in that same school, that the ideal minimum wage was 40% to 60% of the average wage, even the school janitor lived in a nice home across the street.

Part of my resolve to never again vote for any Republican is everything they preach is against every value, with no exceptions,  I was ever taught as a child.

No decent family ever raised a child up to be MAGA
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razoo » 29 Jun 2023, 12:10 pm » wrote: Every business that refuses to pay at least $25 per hour minimum wage gets no more tax breaks for doing business...............

Are you willing to pay $25.00 for a Big Mac ?
Are you willing to pay $25.00 for 1gal. of gas ?
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