Guns don't kill people...

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By maineman
23 Jun 2023 4:15 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Ray J Johnson
27 Jun 2023 2:34 pm
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maineman » 27 Jun 2023, 1:48 pm » wrote: I think common sense gun control measures, such as waiting periods, age requirements, red-flag laws, gun show loophole elimination, and universal background checks make sense but I would NEVER support banning guns.


 
We already have waiting periods, age requirements and background checks. Gun show laws depend on the state. 
That little kid didn't kill his mom and baby brother because of a push to control guns, he did so because his criminally stupid father left a loaded handgun in the drawer of his nightstand and not under lock and key.  I hope the father goes to prison for a long long time.
That is a family issue. You can't bubble wrap the world. 
 
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Ray J Johnson
27 Jun 2023 2:36 pm
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Cannonpointer » 27 Jun 2023, 1:17 pm » wrote: Maineman is a passive aggressive weasel. 

His OP clearly implicates maga and 2a supporters. He insists it doesn't - but cannot explain why he tagged them. 

His thread title clearly implies its opposite - that GUNS are the evil, that GUNS kill people. Then he wheedles that he owns some guns, so his words don't matter.

He's a panty wearing little fruitcake who thinks sexually grooming children is okay. Expecting his **** to hold together is a big stretch.
I know all about him. I used to be over at liberalforum. org too. 
 
 
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maineman
27 Jun 2023 2:49 pm
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RayJJohnson » 27 Jun 2023, 2:34 pm » wrote: We already have waiting periods, age requirements and background checks. Gun show laws depend on the state. 

That is a family issue. You can't bubble wrap the world.
well then, I guess the problem is all solved.  

moving right along....

263 mass shootings in America in the first 150 days of 2023...but, heck... like you say, you can't bubble-wrap the world! Image  


America leads the world this year in mass shootings!  At least we're number one in SOMETHING!  

Who said America isn't great already????
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27 Jun 2023 2:50 pm
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RayJJohnson » 27 Jun 2023, 2:36 pm » wrote: I know all about him. I used to be over at liberalforum. org too.
under a different name.  I always found that odd when folks did that.


Like Don Draper in Mad Men!   :LOL:  
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Ray J Johnson
27 Jun 2023 3:11 pm
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maineman » 27 Jun 2023, 2:50 pm » wrote: under a different name.  I always found that odd when folks did that.

Like Don Draper in Mad Men!   Image
I was Fallopian. I put this name because I thought it was funny. 
 
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Ray J Johnson
27 Jun 2023 3:20 pm
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maineman » 27 Jun 2023, 2:49 pm » wrote: well then, I guess the problem is all solved.  

moving right along....

263 mass shootings in America in the first 150 days of 2023...but, heck... like you say, you can't bubble-wrap the world! Image  

America leads the world this year in mass shootings!  At least we're number one in SOMETHING!  

Who said America isn't great already????
You pointed out things you said were "common sense" gun laws. I said those were already laws and you gave up on that part of your argument to talk about mass shootings. Doesn't that kind of go to show those laws don't stop gun violence?

The criteria for mass shootings is bogus. It is 3 or more people. That is used to hype up mass shootings to make people thing we actually had 263 Sandy Hooks this years. The biggest portion of guns being used in killing is suicide. Right behind that is gang on gang gun violence. You can have gang violence where you 3 or more are shot at a time. This also accounts for a lot of the "mass" shootings. 

The issue really is mental health and a lack of family structure in inner city neighborhoods. More gun laws will not solve these problems. 


 
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RayJJohnson » 27 Jun 2023, 3:20 pm » wrote: You pointed out things you said were "common sense" gun laws. I said those were already laws and you gave up on that part of your argument to talk about mass shootings. Doesn't that kind of go to show those laws don't stop gun violence?

The criteria for mass shootings is bogus. It is 3 or more people. That is used to hype up mass shootings to make people thing we actually had 263 Sandy Hooks this years. The biggest portion of guns being used in killing is suicide. Right behind that is gang on gang gun violence. You can have gang violence where you 3 or more are shot at a time. This also accounts for a lot of the "mass" shootings. 

The issue really is mental health and a lack of family structure in inner city neighborhoods. More gun laws will not solve these problems.
You think there are already universal background checks?  You don't think it might make some sense to RAISE the age when young men in the midst of testosterone storms can buy high-capacity assault rifles?  You actually think that there red flag laws across the country? In fact, only 18 states have them.  Just eight states have waiting periods.  

But **** all that and let's just put it on the inner city neighborhoods.  if only those animals would just stay in the ghetto and kill each other off.  But no...they have to come out to the suburbs into OUR schools and OUR theaters and OUR supermarkets.  What to do?  What to do?
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maineman » 27 Jun 2023, 3:50 pm » wrote: You think there are already universal background checks?  

 
I didn't say anything about universal background checks. I said we already have background checks. Universal background checks wont do one thing to stop any gun violence and it isn't designed to. It is designed to make a federal list of everyone who has a gun, so the government can keep track of you and your gun. **** THAT! You don't need to know I have a gun. It isn't any of your damn business and every country that has this crap law, has had their guns taken away. 
You don't think it might make some sense to RAISE the age when young men in the midst of testosterone storms can buy high-capacity assault rifles?  
Why do we need to raise the age? The issue isn't the age of the killers but the mental state.

What the hell is a high capacity assault rifle?
You actually think that there red flag laws across the country? In fact, only 18 states have them.  Just eight states have waiting periods.  
I didn't comment on red flag laws. I don't want them either. 

Waiting periods don't do anything. The vast majority of gun violence is done with stolen guns. Going after the point of sale for gun laws in general doesn't work. Anti-gun people use the point of sale to go after guns in general to get rid of them. You say you aren't for that but that is what those laws are designed to do. 
But **** all that and let's just put it on the inner city neighborhoods.  if only those animals would just stay in the ghetto and kill each other off.  But no...they have to come out to the suburbs into OUR schools and OUR theaters and OUR supermarkets.  What to do?  What to do?
What the hell are you talking about?  :die:  Go blame Democrats for the inner-city ghettos. They are the ones who created them in the northern cities. Democrats are the ones who destroyed the black families with welfare programs. 

 
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27 Jun 2023 5:45 pm
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RayJJohnson » 27 Jun 2023, 2:36 pm » wrote: I know all about him. I used to be over at liberalforum. org too.
you were? What were you called there? 
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maineman » 26 Jun 2023, 6:07 pm » wrote: they are little chihuahuas nipping at my ankles.

I scoff at them! Image
SO WHY does a **** YELLOW BELLY CHICKEN **** COWARD LIKE YOU PUT PEOPLE ON IGNORE!!!

You're NOTHING BUT A ****** FROM THE GET GO!! NO DOUBT YOU ARE A STOLEN VALOR "sailor" WHO NEVER SERVED ONE SECOND!!

GO **** YOURSELF, ASSHOLE
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27 Jun 2023 5:46 pm
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RayJJohnson » 27 Jun 2023, 3:11 pm » wrote: I was Fallopian. I put this name because I thought it was funny.
I don’t recall you there. Interesting 
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Imgreatagain » 27 Jun 2023, 5:46 pm » wrote: I don’t recall you there. Interesting
methinks (s)he was a lurker.
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27 Jun 2023 6:54 pm
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RayJJohnson » 27 Jun 2023, 4:28 pm » wrote:  every country that has this crap law, has had their guns taken away. 


 
then, I assume,  you can name them all.
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27 Jun 2023 7:14 pm
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maineman » 27 Jun 2023, 2:49 pm » wrote: well then, I guess the problem is all solved.  

moving right along....

263 mass shootings in America in the first 150 days of 2023...but, heck... like you say, you can't bubble-wrap the world! Image  

America leads the world this year in mass shootings!  At least we're number one in SOMETHING!  

Who said America isn't great already????
Hunter Biden, the dissolute piece of **** son of Joe Biden, wrote a book where he described being a drug addict and conquering addiction.

Then years later, conservatives discovered during his addiction period Hunter legally bought a handgun.

If Hunter was addicted to drugs, he should have checked off yes on one of the questions on the 4473 form required by federal law for gun purchases.  He didn’t.

If I were Joe Biden and Hunter my son I’d have pardoned him on Fox News.  But Joe is a better man than me.

Every wealthy nation on this earth, even Russia, has private ownership of firearms. None except us are so lax as to allow private transfers of civilian models of military weapons with no paperwork and one simple 4473 form and one quick background check from a firearms dealer.

I’m a life member of the NRA and can’t count all the guns I own.  I grew up and still live in a gun culture.

Bur the decent people of this nation aren’t going to allow this forever.  

The people that hate paying taxes, won’t get vaccinated, and don’t want to send their kids to school eventually will need permits and insurance and inspections to own their dangerous toys.

I do hope, one gun per person is freely allowed for self defense.

But the folks who say they want common sense gun laws are really about like Republicans who used to claim they wanted common sense laws about abortion clinics.  They really want, Prohibtion by regulation.

And it’s our fault as gun owners, burying our heads up our asses, that they do.
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DeezerShoove » 26 Jun 2023, 6:12 pm » wrote: Not me. I said my **** and stopped. I am a gentleman. Image
I would not disagree.
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maineman » 27 Jun 2023, 6:45 pm » wrote: methinks (s)he was a lurker.
I can usually spot people out. 
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Imgreatagain » 27 Jun 2023, 9:12 pm » wrote: I can usually spot people out.
Yet you failed to spot out

Cheney as a D-bag :ninja:  
 
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maineman » 23 Jun 2023, 4:15 pm » wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/us/norwa ... index.html

two-year-olds with guns kill people... like his mom and unborn brother.

#2A

#MAGA
Why are you posting thread about a rarest of rare firearm casualties one could possibly imagine? 
Maineman is VERY afraid of guns.
Mainman's MAGA: "My Aching Grainy Asshole."  
Maine's poster ******! :rofl:  
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Z09 » 27 Jun 2023, 6:56 pm » wrote: He put me on ignore...
Must have gotten tired of being embarrassed by my superior knowledge
@maineman  surely is nothing but a SEMEN GUZZLING "seaman" who was CUCKED to get his "rank".

NO QUESTION he was the Captain's favorite Semen Sucking BITCH!! He even taught his DAUGHTER the fine points of SUCKING YOUR WAY TO THE "top"!!

He "brags" about being the very best button pusher in the Navy too.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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Imgreatagain » 27 Jun 2023, 5:45 pm » wrote: you were? What were you called there? 
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, that second question is hysterical. A person chooses their own screen name, and your question project it was assigned by consensus.

Maybe verified by consensus, but each individual makes up their screen name to represent something beyond their natural time existing as evolving here individually created by the numbers left evolving forward in this atmosphere exactly as geographically occupying time mutually inhabiting space.

Options to optical performances of a lifetime adapting in space ignoring being eternally separated now. Self evident results.
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