Biden to wreck Michigan Auto Industry

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26 Jun 2023 9:30 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Being as Ford and GM have already announced that they will be increasingly producing electric vehicles, this is just BOGUS.

Biden is a strong defender of labor unions. No way he would do anything to lose union jobs.
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26 Jun 2023 9:42 am
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Xavier_Onassis » 26 Jun 2023, 9:33 am » wrote: Being as Ford and GM have already announced that they will be increasingly producing electric vehicles, this is just BOGUS.

Biden is a strong defender of labor unions. No way he would do anything to lose union jobs.
tell that to the railroads 
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Mrkelly » 26 Jun 2023, 9:42 am » wrote: tell that to the railroads
The railroad unions got a much better contract that they had before.
I assume you cannot actually read.
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Xavier_Onassis » 26 Jun 2023, 9:51 am » wrote: The railroad unions got a much better contract that they had before.
I assume you cannot actually read.
Not the point at all

he stopped them with government control

take what we gave you, and shut the **** up ... is that how a pro union guy rolls?

The White House-brokered deal still has plenty for workers to embrace, including a roughly 24% pay increase by 2024 and a ratification bonus of $11,000. Still, the contract guarantees just one paid personal day off and no dedicated sick days, although there is some flexibility to step out for doctor appointments.
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 Most of my friends are Republicans and they’ll believe anything they read that aligns with what they wish was true, or afraid might be true.

Biden has let out more oil and gas leases than Trump:
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WASHINGTON— Federal data show the Biden administration approved 6,430 permits for oil and gas drilling on public lands in its first two years, outpacing the Trump administration’s 6,172 drilling-permit approvals in its first two years.

The Biden administration’s policy of fossil fuel expansion contradicts the clear climate science that fossil fuel growth must be stopped and governments must phase out fossil fuels to avoid the most catastrophic consequences of climate change.

“Two years of runaway drilling approvals are a spectacular failure of climate leadership by President Biden and Interior Secretary Deb Haaland,” said Taylor McKinnon of the Center for Biological Diversity. “Avoiding catastrophic climate change requires phasing out fossil fuel extraction, but instead we’re still racing in the opposite direction.”
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Biden can get away with this, because the alternative is Trump.

Who’s for higher gas prices, please raise your hands?

ImageThis nation is at war with Trumpism.

Should they win every decent thing we’ve ever valued about America will be gone.

 
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Mrkelly » 26 Jun 2023, 9:42 am » wrote: tell that to the railroads
:rolleyes:  
 
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Xavier_Onassis » 26 Jun 2023, 9:33 am » wrote: Being as Ford and GM have already announced that they will be increasingly producing electric vehicles, this is just BOGUS.

Biden is a strong defender of labor unions. No way he would do anything to lose union jobs.
You don't have a **** clue about the auto industry, prog.
Biden is a pandering asshole. If that's what you mean, you are right.
Please seat yourself.

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Bruce » 26 Jun 2023, 10:04 am » wrote:
 Most of my friends are Republicans and they’ll believe anything they read that aligns with what they wish was true, or afraid might be true.

Biden has let out more oil and gas leases than Trump:
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WASHINGTON— Federal data show the Biden administration approved 6,430 permits for oil and gas drilling on public lands in its first two years, outpacing the Trump administration’s 6,172 drilling-permit approvals in its first two years.

The Biden administration’s policy of fossil fuel expansion contradicts the clear climate science that fossil fuel growth must be stopped and governments must phase out fossil fuels to avoid the most catastrophic consequences of climate change.

“Two years of runaway drilling approvals are a spectacular failure of climate leadership by President Biden and Interior Secretary Deb Haaland,” said Taylor McKinnon of the Center for Biological Diversity. “Avoiding catastrophic climate change requires phasing out fossil fuel extraction, but instead we’re still racing in the opposite direction.”
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Biden can get away with this, because the alternative is Trump.

Who’s for higher gas prices, please raise your hands?

ImageThis nation is at war with Trumpism.

Should they win every decent thing we’ve ever valued about America will be gone.
You really try hard to make sure we all know you're a turncoat Republican.
That's more than once now.
Who gives a **** but you? Are you **** or trying to convince yourself?

Biden and most democrats fit your first sentence as well as anybody. Get real.
Please seat yourself.

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DeezerShoove » 26 Jun 2023, 10:39 am » wrote: You really try hard to make sure we all know you're a turncoat Republican.
That's more than once now.
Who gives a **** but you? Are you **** or trying to convince yourself?

Biden and most democrats fit your first sentence as well as anybody. Get real.
When I was a Young Reagan Republican we loved Reagan, because Reagan told us the truth (except about catsup being a vegetable).

If Reagan had told us Jimmy Carter was not born in Plains, Georgia we’d have all thrown down our Reagan banners.

Trump’s birtherism, alone and by itself, proves he’s a con and is leading his gullible sheep who’d believe drinking bleach cured Covid 19 if Trump said so.

The problem with telling just one, obvious lie, is you loose all the people who won’t believe lies, forever.

—-Washington — The Department of Energy plans to loan $9.2 billion to a joint venture between Ford Motor Co. and South Korean battery maker SK On Co. for its battery plants in Kentucky and Tennessee, a massive loan that accounts for a majority of the $11.4 billion the companies themselves committed to invest in the project.
 It marks the most significant direct government support for an auto company since the bailouts during the Great Recession and is the largest single loan the Department of Energy has ever made. It comes as the Biden administration and automakers aim to rapidly ramp up electric vehicle production in an attempt to compete with China, which currently dominates the global EV market.—-
The UAW is pissed at Joe Biden for putting those new 9 billion dollar battery plants in non union states.

But what are they gonna do, vote Republican?

The Republicans cannot say union without prefacing it with union thug.

This isn’t the party of Reagan, anymore.
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Bruce » 26 Jun 2023, 10:49 am » wrote: When I was a Young Reagan Republican we loved Reagan, because Reagan told us the truth (except about catsup being a vegetable).

If Reagan had told us Jimmy Carter was not born in Plains, Georgia we’d have all thrown down our Reagan banners.

Trump’s birtherism, alone and by itself, proves he’s a con and is leading his gullible sheep who’d believe drinking bleach cured Covid 19 if Trump said so.

The problem with telling just one, obvious lie, is you loose all the people who won’t believe lies, forever.

—-Washington — The Department of Energy plans to loan $9.2 billion to a joint venture between Ford Motor Co. and South Korean battery maker SK On Co. for its battery plants in Kentucky and Tennessee, a massive loan that accounts for a majority of the $11.4 billion the companies themselves committed to invest in the project.
 It marks the most significant direct government support for an auto company since the bailouts during the Great Recession and is the largest single loan the Department of Energy has ever made. It comes as the Biden administration and automakers aim to rapidly ramp up electric vehicle production in an attempt to compete with China, which currently dominates the global EV market.—-
The UAW is pissed at Joe Biden for putting those new 9 billion dollar battery plants in non union states.

But what are they gonna do, vote Republican?

The Republicans cannot say union without prefacing it with union thug.

This isn’t the party of Reagan, anymore.
So you are another resentful voter. I get it.
Democrats are lying pricks every bit as much as anyone else. Just FYI.
Why that becomes your "standard" is weird.

When I see that kind of logic I look at it this way:
You are more favorable to the party that has a set of lies that suits you better.
Somehow that becomes more truthful. Pandering works. :ninja:  
Please seat yourself.

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Bruce » 26 Jun 2023, 10:04 am » wrote:
The Biden administration’s policy of fossil fuel expansion contradicts the clear climate science that fossil fuel growth must be stopped and governments must phase out fossil fuels to avoid the most catastrophic consequences of climate change.


 
Speaking of things adults do not believe... 

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Xavier_Onassis » 26 Jun 2023, 9:33 am » wrote: Being as Ford and GM have already announced that they will be increasingly producing electric vehicles, this is just BOGUS.

Biden is a strong defender of labor unions. No way he would do anything to lose union jobs.

You must be new to this topic.    :rofl:  
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Mrkelly » 26 Jun 2023, 9:42 am » wrote:
Xavier_Onassis » 26 Jun 2023, 9:33 am » wrote: Being as Ford and GM have already announced that they will be increasingly producing electric vehicles, this is just BOGUS.

Biden is a strong defender of labor unions. No way he would do anything to lose union jobs.
tell that to the railroads
Or the UMWA
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Bruce » 26 Jun 2023, 10:04 am » wrote: Image
 Most of my friends are Republicans and they’ll believe anything they read that aligns with what they wish was true, or afraid might be true.

Biden has let out more oil and gas leases than Trump:
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WASHINGTON— Federal data show the Biden administration approved 6,430 permits for oil and gas drilling on public lands in its first two years, outpacing the Trump administration’s 6,172 drilling-permit approvals in its first two years.

The Biden administration’s policy of fossil fuel expansion contradicts the clear climate science that fossil fuel growth must be stopped and governments must phase out fossil fuels to avoid the most catastrophic consequences of climate change.

“Two years of runaway drilling approvals are a spectacular failure of climate leadership by President Biden and Interior Secretary Deb Haaland,” said Taylor McKinnon of the Center for Biological Diversity. “Avoiding catastrophic climate change requires phasing out fossil fuel extraction, but instead we’re still racing in the opposite direction.”
—-

Biden can get away with this, because the alternative is Trump.

Who’s for higher gas prices, please raise your hands?

ImageThis nation is at war with Trumpism.

Should they win every decent thing we’ve ever valued about America will be gone.

:rofl:  
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Cannonpointer » 26 Jun 2023, 12:21 pm » wrote: Speaking of things adults do not believe... 

You MUST be retarded.

Give him a break...he's a pencil salesman.    :rolleyes:  
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roadkill » 26 Jun 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: Give him a break...he's a pencil salesman.    Image
He's a raging, over the top mediocrity. :)
 
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Cannonpointer » 26 Jun 2023, 12:21 pm » wrote: Speaking of things adults do not believe... 

You MUST be retarded.
I’m among less than one per cent of Democrats that does NOT believe mankind has the power to change global climate if we tried with all our might, much less by accident.

The tragedy for global warming opponents is almost all are shills for oil companies or people who refuse to get vaccinated against contagious viruses and would rather take folk cures and quack remedies.  There are no intelligent, qualified, articulate opponents, of man made climate change left after Michael Chrichton  died.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Crichton

Somehow, in just my adult lifetime, the Republican Party that gave us Reagan has presented us with an endless clown show of hucksters and con artists.

If this long continues there won’t be, any Republican Party resembling what it is today.

When I was a kid there were lots of Dixiecrats.

How did that end?

 
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Bruce » 26 Jun 2023, 1:09 pm » wrote: I’m among less than one per cent of Democrats that does NOT believe mankind has the power to change global climate if we tried with all our might, much less by accident.

The tragedy for global warming opponents is almost all are shills for oil companies or people who refuse to get vaccinated against contagious viruses and would rather take folk cures and quack remedies.  There are no intelligent, qualified, articulate opponents, of man made climate change left after Michael Chrichton  died.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Crichton

Somehow, in just my adult lifetime, the Republican Party that gave us Reagan has presented us with an endless clown show of hucksters and con artists.

If this long continues there won’t be, any Republican Party resembling what it is today.

When I was a kid there were lots of Dixiecrats.

How did that end?
You are a liberal shill
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Bruce » 26 Jun 2023, 1:09 pm » wrote:
The tragedy for global warming opponents is almost all are shills for oil companies or people who refuse to get vaccinated against contagious viruses and would rather take folk cures and quack remedies.
Gonna stop ya there.

1. Folk remedies don't have patents that enrich your masters and owners - but they do have a history of success.
2. There is COPIOUS peer reviewed science behind BOTH hydroxychloroquine AND Ivermectin, from COPIOUS clinical trials what were quite successful in treating covid 19.
3. The reason these treatments were smeared in the media is that both substances have expired patents, and the media is in your masters' pockets.

It's pretty clear that you have never read a science abstract. It isn't hard. You can find no end of positive reviews of Ivermectin at pubmed.

Here's just a snippet - any intelligent layperson can read science, as it is written FOR intelligent laypeople's consumption:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32533071/
Ivermectin proposes many potentials effects to treat a range of diseases, with its antimicrobial, antiviral, and anti-cancer properties as a wonder drug. It is highly effective against many microorganisms including some viruses. In this comprehensive systematic review, antiviral effects of ivermectin are summarized including in vitro and in vivo studies over the past 50 years. Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2. Furthermore, there are some studies showing antiviral effects of ivermectin against DNA viruses such as Equine herpes type 1, BK polyomavirus, pseudorabies, porcine circovirus 2, and bovine herpesvirus 1. Ivermectin plays a role in several biological mechanisms, therefore it could serve as a potential candidate in the treatment of a wide range of viruses including COVID-19 as well as other types of positive-sense single-stranded RNA viruses. In vivo studies of animal models revealed a broad range of antiviral effects of ivermectin, however, clinical trials are necessary to appraise the potential efficacy of ivermectin in clinical setting.

You look really, really stupid as a nonprofessional claiming to know all about the efficacy of medicines. Everyone knows where you got that knee-jerk conditioning.
Bruce » 26 Jun 2023, 1:09 pm » wrote: There are no intelligent, qualified, articulate opponents, of man made climate change left after Michael Chrichton  died.
No one has a duty to "oppose" science. Nor did Crichton "oppose" science. Climate Science is an infant discipline. It makes almost no claims. The rest if science REPORTING. Crichton challenged the REPORTING - not the science.

Here is what you will NOT do. You will not show this board peer reviewed science which backs up the media narrative of c02 being a driver of impending climate catastrophe.
Bruce » 26 Jun 2023, 1:09 pm » wrote: Somehow, in just my adult lifetime, the Republican Party that gave us Reagan has presented us with an endless clown show of hucksters and con artists.
He said, with Biden as his selected president...
Bruce » 26 Jun 2023, 1:09 pm » wrote: When I was a kid there were lots of Dixiecrats.

How did that end?
One of them became your appointed president.

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