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No, they don't. People will actually accept the values and habits of the society they are raised in. If you fail to be an effective steward and you teach the children that it is cool to do drugs, be homosexual, never reproduce, etc...then that is exactly what most people will do.

it is the duty of the elders to instil in society values, habits, and even preferences which are ultimatrly healthy for individuals and for the society as a whole. 

This is where modern us society has utterly failed. And even people who 'identify' as 'right wing' or 'conservative' make the error of worshipping individual choice and being far too permissive of behavior that is deeply destructive to society as a whole.

so no, we should not grant that an 'adult' should be allowed a sex change operation...because this normalizes insanity and it will indeed corrupt the children. Just like opium deaths became an epidemic because we allowed people to think that doing drugs is 'cool' and AIDS/effeminate men became a thing because we were too permissive of homosexuality. 

And it is not necessary to 'prove' what is 'right' or 'wrong'. Even if you are a moral relativist or a moral nihilist you can easily step over such concerns. What is objective is whether certain behaviors reduce or increase our ability to survive. Particularly...our risk of being outcompeted by rival societies who do not engage in degenerate behavior. If you approach things in that way...it becomes remarkably easy to make decisions about what behavior is permissible and what is not. 

FOS » 26 Jun 2023, 7:02 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2023, 7:02 pm

No, they don't. People will actually accept the values and habits of the society they are raised in. If you fail to be an effective steward and you teach the children that it is cool to do drugs, be homosexual, never reproduce, etc...then that is exactly what most people will do.

it is the duty of the elders to instil in society values, habits, and even preferences which are ultimatrly healthy for individuals and for the society as a whole. 

This is where modern us society has utterly failed. And even people who 'identify' as 'right wing' or 'conservative' make the error of worshipping individual choice and being far too permissive of behavior that is deeply destructive to society as a whole.

so no, we should not grant that an 'adult' should be allowed a sex change operation...because this normalizes insanity and it will indeed corrupt the children. Just like opium deaths became an epidemic because we allowed people to think that doing drugs is 'cool' and AIDS/effeminate men became a thing because we were too permissive of homosexuality. 

And it is not necessary to 'prove' what is 'right' or 'wrong'. Even if you are a moral relativist or a moral nihilist you can easily step over such concerns. What is objective is whether certain behaviors reduce or increase our ability to survive. Particularly...our risk of being outcompeted by rival societies who do not engage in degenerate behavior. If you approach things in that way...it becomes remarkably easy to make decisions about what behavior is permissible and what is not.

 Seems like Russia began doing the things that work for a constitutional republic over the last 30 years and USA began doing all the things that work or do not work very well for a socialistic government. An anti all creation monarchy that is cloaked with various complicated political theory's.

Making the decision, Don't need reason don't need rain, going down pull the chain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEPmA3USJdI
 

'''Particularly...our risk of being outcompeted by rival societies who do not engage in degenerate behavior. If you approach things in that way...it becomes remarkably easy to make decisions about what behavior is permissible and what is not. ''''

Too late.
Cant stop what's coming.

FOS » 26 Jun 2023, 7:02 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2023, 7:02 pm

No, they don't. People will actually accept the values and habits of the society they are raised in. If you fail to be an effective steward and you teach the children that it is cool to do drugs, be homosexual, never reproduce, etc...then that is exactly what most people will do.

it is the duty of the elders to instil in society values, habits, and even preferences which are ultimatrly healthy for individuals and for the society as a whole. 

This is where modern us society has utterly failed. And even people who 'identify' as 'right wing' or 'conservative' make the error of worshipping individual choice and being far too permissive of behavior that is deeply destructive to society as a whole.

so no, we should not grant that an 'adult' should be allowed a sex change operation...because this normalizes insanity and it will indeed corrupt the children. Just like opium deaths became an epidemic because we allowed people to think that doing drugs is 'cool' and AIDS/effeminate men became a thing because we were too permissive of homosexuality. 

And it is not necessary to 'prove' what is 'right' or 'wrong'. Even if you are a moral relativist or a moral nihilist you can easily step over such concerns. What is objective is whether certain behaviors reduce or increase our ability to survive. Particularly...our risk of being outcompeted by rival societies who do not engage in degenerate behavior. If you approach things in that way...it becomes remarkably easy to make decisions about what behavior is permissible and what is not. 

Great misdirection. remember the differences of choices to personally make believing anything is possible and what options are socially allowed to be chosen from.

Sumela » 27 Jun 2023, 7:01 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 7:01 am

'''Particularly...our risk of being outcompeted by rival societies who do not engage in degenerate behavior. If you approach things in that way...it becomes remarkably easy to make decisions about what behavior is permissible and what is not. ''''

Too late.
Cant stop what's coming.

"Too late.
Cant stop what's coming."

That's always true.

DeezerShoove » 27 Jun 2023, 7:47 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 7:47 am

"Too late.
Cant stop what's coming."

That's always true.

 

Sumela » 27 Jun 2023, 7:49 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 7:49 am

I say that with regard to predicting the future.
Nobody really knows.

Well, I know you will disagree with this post

But, then I am **** omnipotent. Omnipresent, too.
I just pretend a lot to seem like a regular guy. Don't want to frighten anyone.  

FOS » 26 Jun 2023, 7:02 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2023, 7:02 pm

No, they don't. People will actually accept the values and habits of the society they are raised in. If you fail to be an effective steward and you teach the children that it is cool to do drugs, be homosexual, never reproduce, etc...then that is exactly what most people will do.

it is the duty of the elders to instil in society values, habits, and even preferences which are ultimatrly healthy for individuals and for the society as a whole. 

This is where modern us society has utterly failed. And even people who 'identify' as 'right wing' or 'conservative' make the error of worshipping individual choice and being far too permissive of behavior that is deeply destructive to society as a whole.

so no, we should not grant that an 'adult' should be allowed a sex change operation...because this normalizes insanity and it will indeed corrupt the children. Just like opium deaths became an epidemic because we allowed people to think that doing drugs is 'cool' and AIDS/effeminate men became a thing because we were too permissive of homosexuality. 

And it is not necessary to 'prove' what is 'right' or 'wrong'. Even if you are a moral relativist or a moral nihilist you can easily step over such concerns. What is objective is whether certain behaviors reduce or increase our ability to survive. Particularly...our risk of being outcompeted by rival societies who do not engage in degenerate behavior. If you approach things in that way...it becomes remarkably easy to make decisions about what behavior is permissible and what is not. 

Are you competing against my how to resist corruption thread? With this ^^^^^^^ ****. ha ha ha ha ha haha.

DeezerShoove » 27 Jun 2023, 8:07 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 8:07 am

I say that with regard to predicting the future.
Nobody really knows.

Well, I know you will disagree with this post

But, then I am **** omnipotent. Omnipresent, too.
I just pretend a lot to seem like a regular guy. Don't want to frighten anyone.

I bet youd make a damn fine Spider Man.  Spidey
 

Sumela » 27 Jun 2023, 8:54 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 8:54 am

I bet youd make a damn fine Spider Man.  Spidey

Nah, he's a ******.

I just watched "He Never Died" again. Kinda suits me.
The main character is played by a stand up comedian.

DeezerShoove » 27 Jun 2023, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 9:03 am

Nah, he's a ******.

I just watched "He Never Died" again. Kinda suits me.
The main character is played by a stand up comedian.

Maybe yer a Super Hero and dont know it yet fully.

Bruce Willis  - Unbreakable
 

Sumela » 27 Jun 2023, 9:11 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 9:11 am

Maybe yer a Super Hero and dont know it yet fully.

Bruce Willis  - Unbreakable

Not a bad movie.

I heard he is getting frail these days.

Sumela » 27 Jun 2023, 9:11 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 9:11 am

Maybe yer a Super Hero and dont know it yet fully.

Bruce Willis  - Unbreakable
 

it was fictional entertainment and you wish to use it as a factual possibility evolving could happen that way?

Did you even notice DS called himself a ****** in his reply to your post. two malcontents leading everyone else astray.

DeezerShoove » 27 Jun 2023, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 9:13 am

Not a bad movie.

I heard he is getting frail these days.

Seems there was some news about illness
 

Nostradamus'omh » 27 Jun 2023, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 9:16 am

it was fictional entertainment and you wish to use it as a factual possibility evolving could happen that way?

I also jack off precisely at 4:20 pm on Tuesdays and Fridays.
 

Sumela » 27 Jun 2023, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 9:18 am

I also jack off precisely at 4:20 pm on Tuesdays and Fridays.
 

More information than anyone here wants to know about including myself. But the good thing is, it doesn't procreate another version of you in a next generation.

but I bet your next reply is donating to a sperm bank. that is how your mind operates here staying in character.

Nostradamus'omh » 27 Jun 2023, 9:22 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 9:22 am

More information than anyone here wants to know about including myself. But the good thing is, it doesn't procreate another version of you in a next generation.

but I bet your next reply is donating to a sperm bank. that is how your mind operates here staying in character.

 

Sumela » 27 Jun 2023, 9:24 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 9:24 am

 

doing another selfie. I get it, you are going for the victim of self induced circumstance again.

Nostradamus'omh » 27 Jun 2023, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 9:27 am

doing another selfie. I get it, you are going for the victim of self induced circumstance again.

Thats me walking shamefully after jacking off to 
old National Geographics.....
 

Sumela » 27 Jun 2023, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2023, 9:29 am

Thats me walking shamefully after jacking off to 
old National Geographics.....
 

Change your habits, your habitat takes care of itself naturally with or without you here.