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On the lie of 'people make their own decisions'
On the lie of 'people make their own decisions'
By FOS
26 Jun 2023 7:02 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
27 Jun 2023 11:11 am
His last few year's worth of movies he seemed to just coast through.
Celebrity gossip column type crap. I don't pay much attention to it.
That's why it has to go on for years before I catch wind of it, I guess.
I even liked Robert DeNiro for a while until I was just fed up with his **** views.
Easy to forgive a few comments. But years of bitching comes from a total asshole.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
27 Jun 2023 11:29 am
DeezerShoove » 27 Jun 2023, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑ His last few year's worth of movies he seemed to just coast through.
Celebrity gossip column type crap. I don't pay much attention to it.
That's why it has to go on for years before I catch wind of it, I guess.
I even liked Robert DeNiro for a while until I was just fed up with his **** views.
Easy to forgive a few comments. But years of bitching comes from a total asshole.
27 Jun 2023 11:36 am
https://www.today.com/popculture/willis ... bna9495827DeezerShoove » 27 Jun 2023, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑ His last few year's worth of movies he seemed to just coast through.
Celebrity gossip column type crap. I don't pay much attention to it.
That's why it has to go on for years before I catch wind of it, I guess.
I even liked Robert DeNiro for a while until I was just fed up with his **** views.
Easy to forgive a few comments. But years of bitching comes from a total asshole.
27 Jun 2023 12:56 pm
For the most part, people through out their lives will be required to make their own decisions. Granted, the decisions they make will be highly influenced by the values (or lack thereof) that were instilled in them when they were young. Some decisions will be steered more based upon an individual's own experiences.FOS » 26 Jun 2023, 7:02 pm » wrote: ↑ No, they don't. People will actually accept the values and habits of the society they are raised in. If you fail to be an effective steward and you teach the children that it is cool to do drugs, be homosexual, never reproduce, etc...then that is exactly what most people will do.
it is the duty of the elders to instil in society values, habits, and even preferences which are ultimatrly healthy for individuals and for the society as a whole.
This is where modern us society has utterly failed. And even people who 'identify' as 'right wing' or 'conservative' make the error of worshipping individual choice and being far too permissive of behavior that is deeply destructive to society as a whole.
so no, we should not grant that an 'adult' should be allowed a sex change operation...because this normalizes insanity and it will indeed corrupt the children. Just like opium deaths became an epidemic because we allowed people to think that doing drugs is 'cool' and AIDS/effeminate men became a thing because we were too permissive of homosexuality.
And it is not necessary to 'prove' what is 'right' or 'wrong'. Even if you are a moral relativist or a moral nihilist you can easily step over such concerns. What is objective is whether certain behaviors reduce or increase our ability to survive. Particularly...our risk of being outcompeted by rival societies who do not engage in degenerate behavior. If you approach things in that way...it becomes remarkably easy to make decisions about what behavior is permissible and what is not.
Nothing is predetermined or preordained. We are all faced with a vast, yet still finite, number of "forks in the road", where we will be required to choose one path over another. We have the capacity to change our minds, our beliefs, our actions and sometimes outcomes through out our capable lifespans. So, choose wisely.
27 Jun 2023 1:02 pm
Skans » 27 Jun 2023, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑ For the most part, people through out their lives will be required to make their own decisions. Granted, the decisions they make will be highly influenced by the values (or lack thereof) that were instilled in them when they were young. Some decisions will be steered more based upon an individual's own experiences.
Nothing is predetermined or preordained. We are all faced with a vast, yet still finite, number of "forks in the road", where we will be required to choose one path over another. We have the capacity to change our minds, our beliefs, our actions and sometimes outcomes through out our capable lifespans. So, choose wisely.
but this is a very individual outlook based on some arbitrary ethical ideology. What absolutely is pre-ordained is that lazy people will be defeated and dominated by disciplined people.
27 Jun 2023 1:23 pm
That is not absolutely per-ordained, and I'll try to explain why.FOS » 27 Jun 2023, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑ but this is a very individual outlook based on some arbitrary ethical ideology. What absolutely is pre-ordained is that lazy people will be defeated and dominated by disciplined people.
- First, disciplined people do not always seek to defeat or dominate others. For example, I consider myself a fairly disciplined person and I have no interest in defeating or dominating others. I do desire to create enough wealth for me and my family so that we may enjoy a stable and long-lasting degree of freedom. I am uninterested in the domination of others.
- Second, it is possible for the lazy person to become industrious. Particularly if that person is not on drugs or has a mental deficiency making them lazy. However, to the extent that the lazy person stays lazy, he/she will always be dominated by others, I would not argue that point. In fact, such people likely seek to be dominated by others, told what to do and when to do it. So, while its not "absolutely per-ordained", I'd say its highly likely.
Is there really anybody who can be so well organized and methodical in their lives such that they encounter no unforeseen event for which they do not already have an answer, a plan?
27 Jun 2023 3:07 pm
ha ha ha ha ha ha. evolving ordains anything combined to a unique displacement molecularly or genetically until eroded or decomposed exists in ever changing form from arrival to complete decomposition.Skans » 27 Jun 2023, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑ For the most part, people through out their lives will be required to make their own decisions. Granted, the decisions they make will be highly influenced by the values (or lack thereof) that were instilled in them when they were young. Some decisions will be steered more based upon an individual's own experiences.
Nothing is predetermined or preordained. We are all faced with a vast, yet still finite, number of "forks in the road", where we will be required to choose one path over another. We have the capacity to change our minds, our beliefs, our actions and sometimes outcomes through out our capable lifespans. So, choose wisely.
karma doesn't happen without perpetual balancing to the time limit of coexisting here now.
27 Jun 2023 3:38 pm
I am shocked and sickened that you are a fan of celebrity goings-on.
There's always been a dark side to you, but this trembles my very core.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
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