massive decline in usa iq

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26 Jun 2023 10:56 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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27 Jun 2023 12:29 pm
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Bruce » 26 Jun 2023, 11:06 pm » wrote: The declines are small, and confined to younger, less educated people (in other words, the typical Trump supporter).

Frankly with all the avalanche of Q Anon supporters and people who won’t take their shots and believe Dr Fauci and Bill Gates are conspiring to depopulate the world it’s surprising the loss isn’t greater.
Wow, you are a stupid one.

Anyone who thinks the decline can be attributed to white people is a dumb ***.
 
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27 Jun 2023 1:48 pm
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sootedupCyndi » 27 Jun 2023, 12:05 pm » wrote: The briges you dummy's are building go right directly to hell. Image
In 2009  only six per cent of scientists were Republicans.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/only-six ... 229382/amp

There are no doubt fewer now.  14 years of completely idiotic Fox New right wing conspiracy theories and Trump mean it would be difficult to find any scientist who cared about their career to admit being MAGA.

As a former Republican I’m grieved by this.

 I cannot imagine a single redeeming virtue of a Republican scientist any more than I could a Communist scientist or a Fascist scientist.

But there are very many redeeming virtues of conservative scientists.  Who will pay for the bridges, now?  Who will say slow, wait, not so fast?

Liberals don’t have a monopoly on truth and they don’t know all the answers.

But MAGAS think  lies are the truth and are completely convinced the earth is 6,000 years old, and all their opinions are truths.

It didn’t used to be this way, and shouldn’t.

 
 
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27 Jun 2023 2:13 pm
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Zeets2 » 27 Jun 2023, 11:07 am » wrote: The answer is simple, but Democrat politicians will NEVER give up their contributions from the teacher's union!

The Federal Dept. of Education should be shut down and PARENTS should be given a voucher for the sum of money we're now paying to educate each kid, and the PARENTS can decide which school to send their kids to!  The bad ones will close, and private enterprise will open THOUSANDS of new schools that will be graded on how well the students attending do!  A parent who wants their child indoctrinated into the LGBTQ lifestyle should be able to send their kid there, and those who WON'T tolerate such **** will make sure that stupidity will NOT be taught in the school they choose!

Or is 'freedom of choice' only a concern for Democrats when murdering an infant?
Inability to remove problem teachers is indeed one of the major obstacles we have in education. Think the problem is bigger than that. We have very few excellent teachers, I only encountered one during my 12 years of public education. One teacher that was passionate about his subject and was able to convey this excitement to those who had the pleasure of being in his class. We have lots of average teachers and millions of students hungry for learning. 

Believe the solution is identifying these excellent teachers and have them teach their classes online to thousands of students at a time. Use some of the existing average teachers as teaching assistants or homework aids. Can reduce overhead and admin costs by billions of dollars and get a far better result. 
 
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27 Jun 2023 2:16 pm
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Bruce » 27 Jun 2023, 1:48 pm » wrote: In 2009  only six per cent of scientists were Republicans.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/only-six ... 229382/amp

There are no doubt fewer now.  14 years of completely idiotic Fox New right wing conspiracy theories and Trump mean it would be difficult to find any scientist who cared about their career to admit being MAGA.

As a former Republican I’m grieved by this.

 
 
Chicken v egg argument. We know academia has been heavily slanted to the left since the early 70s. These scientists matriculated with teachers and professors who were left leaning to left wing extremist. Not surprising that along with learning scientific reasoning they would also adopt their instructors political views. 
 
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Bruce » 27 Jun 2023, 11:59 am » wrote: There is nothing what so ever, in the slightest, liberal or conservative about the truth.

One dolt spewing out bull **** about Bush blowing up the World Trade Center or Obama standing down in Behngazi leaving our men to die, is not a problem.

The left, has bull **** fantasy fairy tales, such as Robert Kennedy Jrs anti vax crusade, theories about a stolen 2004 election (it wasn’t) and Jenny McCarthy claiming her kid is autistic because of vaccines, and a few others.

But, if you watch “conservative media” it’s maybe three quarters fabricated, pure lies, worse than Bat Boy Returns on the supermarket check out line tabloids.

It’s endangered the two party system.

Let’s say, we’d like to build a new bridge across a river.

What the conservative did, traditionally, is try and pay for the bridge, ideally before it was built.

The liberal wanted a grand bridge, with passenger trails and bicycle lanes and mass transit connections.

Todays conservative might hear somebody on Fox say thd bridge was a socialist Jewish George Soros funded plot by the New World Order.  He may be afraid pedophiles will groom children there, or Antifa will use the bridge as a base of operations,

There’s no telling what’s inside his head.

Since the right has utterly lost grasp with reality, 

From now on only liberals, will design and build bridges.
3rd party intellectual arbitration destroyed the instinctive two party system of evolving male or female replacing two parents with their combined chromosomes added since inception of the species. Every offspring has never duplicated a prior generation offspring.
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sooted up Cyndi » 27 Jun 2023, 12:05 pm » wrote: The briges you dummy's are building go right directly to hell. :wave:  
 
Hell is a metaphysical concept for contextual souls to fear not complying with malcontents directing social outcomes ancestrally here with false promises of better tomorrows come with each rotation of the planet relative to the midnight event horizon that never ended once. 0 degrees and 360 are the same location where what does exist never stays as it was since arrival. Natural weather or intellectual whether one is with an ideology or stands against humanity.
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Neo » 27 Jun 2023, 2:13 pm » wrote: Inability to remove problem teachers is indeed one of the major obstacles we have in education. Think the problem is bigger than that. We have very few excellent teachers, I only encountered one during my 12 years of public education. One teacher that was passionate about his subject and was able to convey this excitement to those who had the pleasure of being in his class. We have lots of average teachers and millions of students hungry for learning. 

Believe the solution is identifying these excellent teachers and have them teach their classes online to thousands of students at a time. Use some of the existing average teachers as teaching assistants or homework aids. Can reduce overhead and admin costs by billions of dollars and get a far better result.
My only concern with that idea is the experience we've had with on-line teaching through the Covid years.  My wife works in one of the best public middle schools in my state, and the administrators all seem to agree that those 2+ years outside of the classroom were a major detriment to the kid's education.  Additionally, there has been a sharp drop in how schoolkids are now relating and coping with each other after missing those formative years of socialization.

And quite frankly, I wouldn't trust the corrupt teacher's union and the Dept. of Education to manage it when the politicians are so deep in the pockets of the unions.
 
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Bruce » 27 Jun 2023, 8:01 am » wrote: For all the faults of the left, they do send their kids to college, take their shots, and don’t watch Fox News.

It’s long been a theory of mine that Fox News lowers IQ.

Ever notice a “conservative” will always deny watching Fox News?

And then spout out every idiotic conspiracy theory peddled on Fox.


 
Caitlyn Syllables, please restore your instinctive brain back to how it is supposed to navigate space in real time displaced one of a kind in plain sight.
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Zeets2 » 28 Jun 2023, 7:27 am » wrote: My only concern with that idea is the experience we've had with on-line teaching through the Covid years.  My wife works in one of the best public middle schools in my state, and the administrators all seem to agree that those 2+ years outside of the classroom were a major detriment to the kid's education.  Additionally, there has been a sharp drop in how schoolkids are now relating and coping with each other after missing those formative years of socialization.

And quite frankly, I wouldn't trust the corrupt teacher's union and the Dept. of Education to manage it when the politicians are so deep in the pockets of the unions.
Good points and valid concerns. Believe most of the issues arose from the facts the online learning programs were slapped together under emergency circumstances and they relied on poor to average teachers. My proposal would have recognized excellent teachers teaching their favorite subject to hundreds of thousands of students. Not something that has been tried and we are only just now getting the technology to allow it. Vr/AR headsets with eye tracking technology would place students in a virtual classroom, seeing only the instructor and students that they add as "friends". Class demonstrations would be real time interactive 3d models and videos. Think it's the future. 
 
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Bruce » 27 Jun 2023, 11:34 am » wrote: Yes, my mother was a school teacher, and raised me up not to swallow every thing I read or heard.

She bought me a set of 1963 World Books I still own and still use, just to see how much sixty years has dated them.

Each year she’d buy a copy of the World Almanac and Book of Facts.  I still do.

Ignorance is voluntary.  It is a bad choice.

The phone in your hands has more accurate, factual information available than our regional library did.

If you search for garbage to confirm what you already know, you are fair game for every right wing con man out to pick your pocket.
You say this, yet I can guarantee your news sources stem from CNN, MSNBC, The Young Turds, etc… You’re a **** parrot of the left. 
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SouthernFried » 28 Jun 2023, 9:49 am » wrote: You say this, yet I can guarantee your news sources stem from CNN, MSNBC, The Young Turds, etc… You’re a **** parrot of the left. 
Caitlyn Syllables i.e. Bruce changed his gendered time displaced evolving here now to a social narrative.
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Well let's look at the facts:

Dimocrats are suffering from gender confusion.

Dimocrats do not understand basic biology.

Dimocrats believe you can magically change your gender from male to female and female to male.

Dimocrats think it's fair for men to compete against women in women sports

Dimocrats are on record admitting not knowing the difference between a man and a woman

Dimocrats want to sexualize prepubescent children.

Dimocrats believe 2 + 2 = 5

Dimocrats suffer from mental illness at a higher rate than conservatives do.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psycho ... logy%3famp

Our IQ has plummeted as a whole No thanks to dimocrats, You gender confused, Silly *** 🖕🖕🖕😡
 
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28 Jun 2023 5:46 pm
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Neo » 28 Jun 2023, 9:42 am » wrote: Good points and valid concerns. Believe most of the issues arose from the facts the online learning programs were slapped together under emergency circumstances and they relied on poor to average teachers. My proposal would have recognized excellent teachers teaching their favorite subject to hundreds of thousands of students. Not something that has been tried and we are only just now getting the technology to allow it. Vr/AR headsets with eye tracking technology would place students in a virtual classroom, seeing only the instructor and students that they add as "friends". Class demonstrations would be real time interactive 3d models and videos. Think it's the future.
I'd love to see it, but I'd have serious concerns over how the greedy politicians and the Dept. of Education would screw it up with their own teacher evaluations and classifications.

For example, do you have any doubt that the Biden administration would refuse to classify ANY teacher as 'excellent' if they didn't adhere to the LGBTQ agenda, and insist they teach Critical Race Theory and every other bonehead leftist stupidity that comes down the pike?  In my opinion, the federal government must be removed from the equation altogether, and education turned back over entirely to the states and their local school districts.
 
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Zeets2 » 28 Jun 2023, 5:46 pm » wrote: I'd love to see it, but I'd have serious concerns over how the greedy politicians and the Dept. of Education would screw it up with their own teacher evaluations and classifications.

For example, do you have any doubt that the Biden administration would refuse to classify ANY teacher as 'excellent' if they didn't adhere to the LGBTQ agenda, and insist they teach Critical Race Theory and every other bonehead leftist stupidity that comes down the pike?  In my opinion, the federal government must be removed from the equation altogether, and education turned back over entirely to the states and their local school districts.
That's the beautiful thing. Far less need for administration. No need for a tenth of the real estate. These virtual learning centers could operate outside the dept of education. 😁

You are right though, they would burn it down rather than giving up social messaging control. 
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Warcok » 28 Jun 2023, 10:24 am » wrote: Well let's look at the facts:
Your first line is pure intellectual misdirection. Shame on you.

Let us look at how evolving works for each reproduction occupying time here now.

1. How does evolving work from generation to generation?
2. Why doesn't it work any other way that taking place here?
3. What forms shape regardless combined elements or compounding chromosomes left alive forward here now?
4. Where was their geographical heritage from before technology helped travel globally any generation added?
5.. When did each exist as became 16 great great grandparents, leaving 8 great grandparents, moving 4 grandparents, delivering the two parents conceiving last replacements to their specific lineage so far?.
6. Which generation does each lifetime reach by time of death while eternally separate limited to series parallel time displaced now?
7. Means to corrupt
8. Motives to give up honesty within one's own brain.
9. Methods to keep each generation obedience to previous 4.
10. Methods repeated historically regardless the society.

11. why doesn't any ideology acknowledge living never exceeded mutually adapting in the moment here occupying space in real time?

12. Syllogism gives the answer in the rhetorical questions the inquirer is filtering out those that will give away their self and those that won't.
Leaderships don't exist without loyal fellowships doing anything asked of them for a greater good rank in social order of only evolving here now.

13. but how many people even admit now has always been eternity, genetic results stay eternally separated here now?
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Bruce » 27 Jun 2023, 1:48 pm » wrote: In 2009  only six per cent of scientists were Republicans.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/only-six ... 229382/amp

There are no doubt fewer now.  14 years of completely idiotic Fox New right wing conspiracy theories and Trump mean it would be difficult to find any scientist who cared about their career to admit being MAGA.

As a former Republican I’m grieved by this.

 I cannot imagine a single redeeming virtue of a Republican scientist any more than I could a Communist scientist or a Fascist scientist.

But there are very many redeeming virtues of conservative scientists.  Who will pay for the bridges, now?  Who will say slow, wait, not so fast?

Liberals don’t have a monopoly on truth and they don’t know all the answers.

But MAGAS think  lies are the truth and are completely convinced the earth is 6,000 years old, and all their opinions are truths.

It didn’t used to be this way, and shouldn’t.

 
 

Scientist pretended to by unbiased. when all they are were changed interpretation of witch doctors, alchemists, priest appointing chiefs to come and go while they ruled the tribe psychologically.
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