Supreme Court says stop this affirmative action...Thank you....You shouldn't get in because you're a minority..

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29 Jun 2023 9:48 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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golfboy » 29 Jun 2023, 7:08 pm » wrote: Isn't it interesting that not ONE liberal has weighed in, saying the court was wrong?
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I’ve been opposed to affirmative action all my life.

It smacks of the old “black codes” and eugenics.
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FOS » 29 Jun 2023, 8:19 pm » wrote: you are simply wrong. Studies have been done on this subject https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/selectivebias/

A purely merit based admission system would dramatically increase the number of whites admitted...especially poor whites. Asians Would likely decrease among the student body.
If you read that study, it’s a trope against the ruling today.  They lost.  Game over.

Anyone that’s been to college in the last fifty years knows just how incredibly  intelligent Asians are.

 When I was in college in the seventies 100% of the chemistry and biology teaching assistants were Asian.

But in a wider sense what does it matter, to MAGA?

None of them are going to Harvard, John’s Hopkins or Columbia anyway.

 
 
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29 Jun 2023 8:43 pm
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Bruce » 29 Jun 2023, 8:38 pm » wrote: If you read that study, it’s a trope against the ruling today.  They lost.  Game over.

Anyone that’s been to college in the last fifty years knows just how incredibly  intelligent Asians are.

 When I was in college in the seventies 100% of the chemistry and biology teaching assistants were Asian.

But in a wider sense what does it matter, to MAGA?

None of them are going to Harvard, John’s Hopkins or Columbia anyway.
You are arguing in bad faith and remind me of bv lol
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FOS » 29 Jun 2023, 8:43 pm » wrote: You are arguing in bad faith and remind me of bv lol
Here’s the issue I’ve had all my life with affirmative action.

Let’s say a child dreams of being a doctor. 

The best med school in the world is John’s Hopkins.

No matter what his or her race is, to get into John’s Hopkins means 4.0+ test scores and genius level IQ.

It’s not right to put black kids in and eliminate another kid, with higher scores.

But that also applies to white kids.  If an Asian kid scores higher, shouldn’t he be picked first?



 
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Bruce » 29 Jun 2023, 8:59 pm » wrote: Here’s the issue I’ve had all my life with affirmative action.

Let’s say a child dreams of being a doctor. 

The best med school in the world is John’s Hopkins.

No matter what his or her race is, to get into John’s Hopkins means 4.0+ test scores and genius level IQ.

It’s not right to put black kids in and eliminate another kid, with higher scores.

But that also applies to white kids.  If an Asian kid scores higher, shouldn’t he be picked first?

only whites should benefit from the institutions that white built for themselves and their progeny. No blacks.no asians. Also no jews.
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29 Jun 2023 9:06 pm
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There are over ONE HUNDRED ethnicities in Russia.

They all see themselves as Russian first.

America is a complete wreck.
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29 Jun 2023 9:23 pm
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maineman » 29 Jun 2023, 7:56 pm » wrote: why would @Z09  give a **** either way?  She's an illiterate waitress from Southie who would never be able to  get admitted to any college anywhere regardless of her skin color.
Wow, that's quite an example of an illiterate, trying to make fun of someone else's education level. 
No punctuation, and "regardless of her skin color"?    :rofl:  
 
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29 Jun 2023 10:15 pm
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FOS » 29 Jun 2023, 9:02 pm » wrote: only whites should benefit from the institutions that white built for themselves and their progeny. No blacks.no asians. Also no jews.
Clarence Thomas is likely the most right wing Justice.

A century ago he’d have been lynched for marrying a white woman.

He nearly wasn’t confirmed because of a black woman I will always believe was only jealous, he didn’t marry her.

Even Thomas, especially Thomas, has a line he won’t cross to placate MAGA and it’s a long ways short of allowing a return to the pre civil rights era where nobody but white, male, Protestants were admitted to John’s Hopkins.

And it’s for the good of this nation, our elite universities are now more or less, merit based.

Except that Austria confiscated $200 from the bank account of a Jew named Albert Einstein, Adolf Hitler might have developed an atomic bomb before we did.

 
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Bruce » 29 Jun 2023, 10:15 pm » wrote: Clarence Thomas is likely the most right wing Justice.

A century ago he’d have been lynched for marrying a white woman.

He nearly wasn’t confirmed because of a black woman I will always believe was only jealous, he didn’t marry her.

Even Thomas, especially Thomas, has a line he won’t cross to placate MAGA and it’s a long ways short of allowing a return to the pre civil rights era where nobody but white, male, Protestants were admitted to John’s Hopkins.

And it’s for the good of this nation, our elite universities are now more or less, merit based.

Except that Austria confiscated $200 from the bank account of a Jew named Albert Einstein, Adolf Hitler might have developed an atomic bomb before we did.
No...it is absurd to pretend that it is good for my nation that everything we built for ourselves now belongs to the whole world.

and as far as nuclear weapons go...Germany easily could have built it first. They had the best nuclear scientists on earth. Hitler simply refused to build it. He felt that a weapon capable of that much destruction should never be created and worried it could destroy all of advanced civilization
 
 
 
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maineman » 29 Jun 2023, 7:56 pm » wrote: why would @Z09  give a **** either way?  She's an illiterate waitress from Southie who would never be able to  get admitted to any college anywhere regardless of her skin color.
Commander,
@Z09  is one of my friends.
If you say that in front of me in an Officer's Club in Norfolk, Rota, Shanghai,
or Subic Bay.......I will back-hand, 'bitch-slap' , you so hard that you will
walk-off holding a mouth full of blood......& dripping that blood on your little
'ice-cream' uniform.

Are we clear, Sailor ??
I SAID......"Are we clear" ??            
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29 Jun 2023 11:52 pm
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Bruce » 29 Jun 2023, 8:59 pm » wrote: Here’s the issue I’ve had all my life with affirmative action.

Let’s say a child dreams of being a doctor. 

The best med school in the world is John’s Hopkins.

No matter what his or her race is, to get into John’s Hopkins means 4.0+ test scores and genius level IQ.

It’s not right to put black kids in and eliminate another kid, with higher scores.

But that also applies to white kids.  If an Asian kid scores higher, shouldn’t he be picked first?

The Dems are racially discriminating against Asians, Hindu Indians, & Gringos
for one simple reason.............."they are too goddamn smart".

The Black Tribe plays real good basketball......but they cannot comprehend 
physics, math, biology, architecture, & mech.-engineering.

The Black Tribe cannot build a firearm.
Hell, the blacks have 100 black colleges (paid for by White Tax-payers)
........and still they cannot figure out how to make gunpowder.
Go figure.
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Sumela » 29 Jun 2023, 9:06 pm » wrote: There are over ONE HUNDRED ethnicities in Russia.

They all see themselves as Russian first.

America is a complete wreck.

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FOS » 29 Jun 2023, 10:28 pm » wrote: No...it is absurd to pretend that it is good for my nation that everything we built for ourselves now belongs to the whole world.

and as far as nuclear weapons go...Germany easily could have built it first. They had the best nuclear scientists on earth. Hitler simply refused to build it. He felt that a weapon capable of that much destruction should never be created and worried it could destroy all of advanced civilization
The truth was German scientists actually first proved the concept, which was what Einstein (and others) warned Roosevelt.

Yes, it’s true white men (especially Yankee white men from New England) contributed greatly to the advancement of America, and one of those advancements was John’s Hopkins in Baltimore Maryland, not New England, but not really Southern either.

Today the next technological change in our lives, will be in a few years we’ll all have electric cars,,,because we’ll want them the same as we want smart phones and personal computers.

I could care less what color or race or religion or gender engineer designs my first electric car but I do want an American, electric car.

They’ll be heavy with MIT graduates, whoever does perfect the electric car.


 
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Bruce » 30 Jun 2023, 12:19 am » wrote: The truth was German scientists actually first proved the concept, which was what Einstein (and others) warned Roosevelt.

Yes, it’s true white men (especially Yankee white men from New England) contributed greatly to the advancement of America, and one of those advancements was John’s Hopkins in Baltimore Maryland, not New England, but not really Southern either.

Today the next technological change in our lives, will be in a few years we’ll all have electric cars,,,because we’ll want them the same as we want smart phones and personal computers.

I could care less what color or race or religion or gender engineer designs my first electric car but I do want an American, electric car.

They’ll be heavy with MIT graduates, whoever does perfect the electric car.
True.
Here is the trick.
The pop. must want it.......naturally.
Not.....forced down our throats by gov. fiat.
Gov. should not be involved.
Capitalism will respond to pop. desires.....naturally.....to make money.
Example--
1.  I own an electric bike.   It is like a golf-cart.   I love it.   I use it on short trips.
2.  I park my P/U & cut my gas milage in half.      20mi. range....20mph.
3.  All voluntary.   No gov. involved.
4.  Solar & EV are........."assistants".......not "replacements".

Here, $650.00 on Ebay. (+tax = $700.00).
It works.
Don't get it wet !! (electrical)

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Taipan » 30 Jun 2023, 12:38 am » wrote: True.
Here is the trick.
The pop. must want it.......naturally.
Not.....forced down our throats by gov. fiat.
Gov. should not be involved.
Capitalism will respond to pop. desires.....naturally.....to make money.
Example--
1.  I own an electric bike.   It is like a golf-cart.   I love it.   I use it on short trips.
2.  I park my P/U & cut my gas milage in half.      20mi. range....20mph.
3.  All voluntary.   No gov. involved.
4.  Solar & EV are........."assistants".......not "replacements".

Here, $650.00 on Ebay. (+tax = $700.00).
It works.
Don't get it wet !! (electrical)

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That bike could be sold for $60 if not electric.

Even as a child, I can remember little gasoline motors for sake to motorize a bike.  There have been mopeds for sale, all my life.

Not only did scientists develop really good batteries to power a practical and affordable electric bike, other engineers made tooling to manufacture a whole lot of them.

Before long there will be electric Harleys.

This is why I’ve never supported affirmative action, as it was practiced.

Somebody will perfect nuclear fusion to power all the electric cars and trucks and bikes.
 
The only thing that matters to science is results.
 
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Republicans guaranteeing Democrat wins in 2024!
They lost the women vote because they outlawed abortion.
They lost young people because they won't fight global warming.
Now they're losing the minority votes.
Republicans are so stupid and it's very apparent to everyone.
I can't wait to watch the GOP burn itself to the ground in the next year and a half.
They'll never regain power now and that's a good thing.
And if they think universities will go along with the Supreme Court they're sadly mistaken. Robert's left a nice little loophole for them to use.
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Squatchman » 30 Jun 2023, 6:35 am » wrote: Republicans guaranteeing Democrat wins in 2024!
They lost the women vote because they outlawed abortion.
They lost young people because they won't fight global warming.
Now they're losing the minority votes.
Republicans are so stupid and it's very apparent to everyone.
I can't wait to watch the GOP burn itself to the ground in the next year and a half.
They'll never regain power now and that's a good thing.
And if they think universities will go along with the Supreme Court they're sadly mistaken. Robert's left a nice little loophole for them to use.
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Those with a racist view of lowered expectations for blacks would never vote republican. Not a single vote will be lost for this decision. Constant promotion of LatinX, anti small business legislation, abortion until birth, and open border policies have cost democrats millions of Hispanic votes. This decision will not change that in the slightest. Hispanics are inclined to be conservative and are shifting that way in droves. Blacks operating in the spirt of MLK, those not fixated on race and those whose families have recently immigrated to the United States are similarly naturally appalled by progressive views on race. 
 
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Bruce » 29 Jun 2023, 8:03 pm » wrote: I looked up the size of John’s Hopkins.  Wow!

With about 480 students, the Johns Hopkins medical school has small class sizes with a faculty-student ratio of approximately 5 to 1. Students can complete a traditional MD degree in four years or a joint MD/PhD degree in eight.

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They must accept less than 100 students a year, out of pool of millions.

—-The data from Johns Hopkins University indicates that the majority of the student body is represented by White (38.7%) and Asian (28.9%) students, followed by international students (20.7%).The number of students who identify as Two or More Races (6.2%) is relatively small compared to the White and Asian populations, while the Black or African American (4.9%), Hispanic or Latinx (1.7%), Native American or Alaska Native (0.2%), and Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander (0.1%) populations are significantly smaller.
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Unless John’s Hopkins can get around today’s ruling, there won’t be any black or Hispanic students (which MAGA would cheer) but they might be 100% Asian.
your posts hold ZERO CRED when "MAGA" is interjected with baseless projection...**** bruce...you're a moron at best...but then, that's the foremost prerequisite for being a libtard...welcome home...
 
 
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Bruce » 29 Jun 2023, 8:03 pm » wrote: I looked up the size of John’s Hopkins.  Wow!

With about 480 students, the Johns Hopkins medical school has small class sizes with a faculty-student ratio of approximately 5 to 1. Students can complete a traditional MD degree in four years or a joint MD/PhD degree in eight.

——

They must accept less than 100 students a year, out of pool of millions.

—-The data from Johns Hopkins University indicates that the majority of the student body is represented by White (38.7%) and Asian (28.9%) students, followed by international students (20.7%).The number of students who identify as Two or More Races (6.2%) is relatively small compared to the White and Asian populations, while the Black or African American (4.9%), Hispanic or Latinx (1.7%), Native American or Alaska Native (0.2%), and Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander (0.1%) populations are significantly smaller.
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Unless John’s Hopkins can get around today’s ruling, there won’t be any black or Hispanic students (which MAGA would cheer) but they might be 100% Asian.
You HAVE TO BE the MOST RACIST POS that ever wrote on this forum!!

You DO realize that using ANY RACE RELATED MEASUREMENT is RACIST AS IT GETS, DOPE-***!! Of which you are CLAIMING to be the case at John Hopkins. IF PEOPLE ARE QUALIFIED TO GET IN, THEY WILL GET IN. IF NOT, THEY WON'T. When you want the LENS OF RACE to be a determining factor, no matter skin color, you are RACIST AS IT GETS, ****!!

The BEST advise you can take is to TAKE YOUR NAZI RACIST *** AND LEAVE!!
 
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