So WHO is cutting MEDICARE again?? Biden Moves to Slash Medicare Payments

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2 Jul 2023 6:33 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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OdeToJoy » 02 Jul 2023, 8:45 am » wrote: Distraction.  This is about Medicare fraud.

 
Fraud one way or another is corrupting everyone defending reality one way or another living happens in series parallel time displaced as genetically here population never stays same people again..
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OdeToJoy » 02 Jul 2023, 8:45 am » wrote: Distraction.  This is about Medicare fraud.

Fraud has many tentacles. Biden is one of them.  
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Zeets2 » 02 Jul 2023, 8:48 am » wrote: How else could he use Medicare funds to pay for all the FREE healthcare, hospitalization, prescriptions, and other healthcare services that he's giving to the millions of illegals he's invited into the country with the promise of free healthcare, free education, free housing, free smartphones, free hotel rooms, and free food?

And the cost of ALL of his 'generosity' is laid at the feet of the American taxpayer, and we're supposed to be happy about it?

Aaaah, more distraction.  And no facts!!!
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OdeToJoy » 02 Jul 2023, 9:24 am » wrote: Aaaah, more distraction.  And no facts!!!
So why don't you tell us the "facts", moron?
Where else do you think your demented diaper boy would be getting the billions he needs to pay for his illegals, if not from AMERICAN TAXPAYERS?

Come on, genius!  Here's your opportunity to show us why you were SO smart to help elect a corrupt, incompetent, stuttering buffoon as you did!
Tell us how happy you are to be taxed to pay for Biden's millions of illegals while the idiot goes and leaves $80 BILLION in sophisticated military weapons and equipment for terrorists in Afghanistan to wreak havoc with?
Tell us why you LOVE to pay more that 50% more for your gas while your idiot halts oil and natural gas production and pipelines here in the US while buying it from countries that hate us?
And we'd LOVE to hear how much you enjoy seeing food prices increase by 30% and more while he's throwing hundreds of billions into a war with Russia?
When you're done attempting to justify all that, why don't you show us why it's a good idea to pay the debt of deadbeat college students while those who paid their debt off responsibly now get to pay for those deadbeats as well who thought an easy major like African studies or basket weaving would land them a good job?
And for extra credit, you can then try to explain the two-tiered justice system your idiot has given us, where his crackhead pedophile son can have his felonies erased by his corrupt DOJ and where his leftist policies have given us record crime levels and a skyrocketing homeless crisis for everyone else to deal with?

Ball's in your court, dickhead!
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OdeToJoy » 02 Jul 2023, 8:05 am » wrote: Subjects Sentenced in $150 Million Hospice Fraud Case

https://www.compliance.com/resources/su ... raud-case/ 

Recent Hospice Fraud Case

Recently, the operations manager of a hospice and home health care company was sentenced to prison for his role in a $150 million fraud scheme.

The case involved the Merida Group, a chain of hospice and home health agencies with locations throughout Texas. The Department of Justice (DOJ) communicated that three employees participated in a conspiracy to falsely convince thousands of patients that they had less than six months to live in order to enroll them in hospice programs. The patients had long-term, incurable diseases, but were otherwise ineligible for the programs.

 The DOJ press release specifies that “physicians were bribed with illegal kickbacks, under the pretense of medical directorships, to falsely certify unqualified patients for services” and that “employees were instructed to falsify medical records, making non-terminal patients appear to be terminally ill and declining.” The defendants were sentenced to 20 years, 15 years, and 27 months in prison, respectively. In addition, one defendant was ordered to pay $4.7 million in restitution.
I have no problem with cracking down on white collar crimes,  but I do have lots of problems with 15 and 20 federal sentences (which don’t offer parole) for white collar crimes.

Three out of four prisoners in the federal prison population today are there for non violent crimes,

And why is it important for Democrats to care?

No Republican ever will care.

Democrats are now, the keeper of civilization.

After us, the deluge.
 
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Zeets2 » 02 Jul 2023, 9:41 am » wrote: So why don't you tell us the "facts", moron?
Where else do you think your demented diaper boy would be getting the billions he needs to pay for his illegals, if not from AMERICAN TAXPAYERS?

Come on, genius!  Here's your opportunity to show us why you were SO smart to help elect a corrupt, incompetent, stuttering buffoon as you did!
Tell us how happy you are to be taxed to pay for Biden's millions of illegals while the idiot goes and leaves $80 BILLION in sophisticated military weapons and equipment for terrorists in Afghanistan to wreak havoc with?
Tell us why you LOVE to pay more that 50% more for your gas while your idiot halts oil and natural gas production and pipelines here in the US while buying it from countries that hate us?
And we'd LOVE to hear how much you enjoy seeing food prices increase by 30% and more while he's throwing hundreds of billions into a war with Russia?
When you're done attempting to justify all that, why don't you show us why it's a good idea to pay the debt of deadbeat college students while those who paid their debt off responsibly now get to pay for those deadbeats as well who thought an easy major like African studies or basket weaving would land them a good job?
And for extra credit, you can then try to explain the two-tiered justice system your idiot has given us, where his crackhead pedophile son can have his felonies erased by his corrupt DOJ and where his leftist policies have given us record crime levels and a skyrocketing homeless crisis for everyone else to deal with?

Ball's in your court, dickhead!

Because we are talking about Medicare fraud in this thread.  You can post some facts about that, instead of trying to distract and derail the subject.

You have something to say about Medicare fraud; fire away.  Otherwise, go to the MANY threads about the Bidens and talk about that.
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OdeToJoy » 02 Jul 2023, 11:23 am » wrote: Because we are talking about Medicare fraud in this thread.  You can post some facts about that, instead of trying to distract and derail the subject.

You have something to say about Medicare fraud; fire away.  Otherwise, go to the MANY threads about the Bidens and talk about that.
My Republican friends love to believe food stamp fraud is rife.  They don’t seem to realize that in modern times, one hundred per cent of EBT card fraud has to be committed by grocery stores swiping the cards and keeping the food.

Twenty years ago I had a former sister in law that owned a little pharmacy.  She billed $400,000 of medications to the dead, or on made up prescriptions, and wound up doing six months in work release, where she worked as a pharmacist at a military base.

Amazingly, she never lost her pharmacy license.

She died last year of Covid 19, unvaccinated.

Her Facebook page had MAGA **** plastered all over it.
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Bruce » 02 Jul 2023, 9:42 am » wrote: I have no problem with cracking down on white collar crimes,  but I do have lots of problems with 15 and 20 federal sentences (which don’t offer parole) for white collar crimes.

Three out of four prisoners in the federal prison population today are there for non violent crimes,

And why is it important for Democrats to care?

No Republican ever will care.

Democrats are now, the keeper of civilization.

After us, the deluge.
 
Non violent crime embezzles other persons' time spent making a promised reality exist in real time since birth. Living doesn't exceed genetics eternally separating reproductions evolving forward here.

Your brain believes that isn't possible, yet here you are evolving in series parallel space limited to your one time reproduction cycle present. Never stayed same form you arrived as a fertilized cell.

Caitlyn Syllables, your intellectual reality just got debunked and you refuse to accept it and correct your behavior learned after birth. You aren't alone, every society in humanity has laws prohibiting anyone from doing what I just did.

they fall into 3 categories, insubordination against any chain of command, treason against previous ancestries promising to never discuss actual evolving here now, blasphemy against humanity justifying everyone believing now isn't eternity state of mind.
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Nostradamus'omh » 02 Jul 2023, 12:06 pm » wrote: Non violent crime embezzles other persons' time spent making a promised reality exist in real time since birth. Living doesn't exceed genetics eternally separating reproductions evolving forward here.

Your brain believes that isn't possible, yet here you are evolving in series parallel space limited to your one time reproduction cycle present. Never stayed same form you arrived as a fertilized cell.

Caitlyn Syllables, your intellectual reality just got debunked and you refuse to accept it and correct your behavior learned after birth. You aren't alone, every society in humanity has laws prohibiting anyone from doing what I just did.

they fall into 3 categories, insubordination against any chain of command, treason against previous ancestries promising to never discuss actual evolving here now, blasphemy against humanity justifying everyone believing now isn't eternity state of mind.
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Nostradamus'omh » 02 Jul 2023, 8:48 am » wrote: Fraud one way or another is corrupting everyone defending reality one way or another living happens in series parallel time displaced as genetically here population never stays same people again..
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Like I said you bank on people always taking sides with the corrupted so far. Rule of law in any society prohibits being honest about evolving in plain sight where genetic results are actually eternally separated here now not by factual logistical time semantics divided into seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, seasons, annual revolution this planet does around the same star staying same planet history factually states been balancing universally present last 5 billion times.

yet your body has never stayed same form as arrived compounding chromosomes wrapped into a fertilized cell's nucleus of information about your ancestry since inception of the species and food chain to this atmosphere.

Alphabets and vocabulary are tools to communicate ancestrally and socially when evolving, not evolution itself.
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My youth was spent preferring the prophecy of the Greek scribe who penned the Gospel of Matthew, rather than the quatrains of Nostradamus.  

—-36No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,g but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.42Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day on which your Lord will come.43But understand this: If the homeowner had known in which watch of the night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into.44For this reason, you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour you do not expect. 
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But everybody has to make a living, and nobody made anybody else patronize Nostradamus.
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Nostradamus'omh » 02 Jul 2023, 12:34 pm » wrote: Like I said you bank on people always taking sides with the corrupted so far. Rule of law in any society prohibits being honest about evolving in plain sight where genetic results are actually eternally separated here now not by factual logistical time semantics divided into seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, seasons, annual revolution this planet does around the same star staying same planet history factually states been balancing universally present last 5 billion times.

yet your body has never stayed same form as arrived compounding chromosomes wrapped into a fertilized cell's nucleus of information about your ancestry since inception of the species and food chain to this atmosphere.

Alphabets and vocabulary are tools to communicate ancestrally and socially when evolving, not evolution itself.
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Bruce » 02 Jul 2023, 12:43 pm » wrote: My youth was spent preferring the prophecy of the Greek scribe who penned the Gospel of Matthew, rather than the quatrains of Nostradamus.  

—-36No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,g but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.42Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day on which your Lord will come.43But understand this: If the homeowner had known in which watch of the night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into.44For this reason, you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour you do not expect. 
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But everybody has to make a living, and nobody made anybody else patronize Nostradamus.
I am not either. I merely explain the natural evolving process working in series parallel space only timing ancestries genetically apart now in plain sight of one another.

Series parallel energy flows work never duplicated details arriving after contracting results never same form shapes so far. If the future is unfolding, what folded the past into these specific current events following one track mantras protecting tomorrow that hasn't even happened once.

Name the time dawn wasn't the leading edge of this rotating planet revolving around the star orbited by its one moon going slower than rotation a rotation taking 23 hrs, 56 minutes, 56 seconds per rotation where time between new moon to new moon It takes about 27.3 days for the Moon to orbit Earth. However, because of how sunlight hits the Moon, it takes about 29.5 days to go from one new moon to the next new moon?

My point is natural evolving doesn't follow intellectual time logistics. never did, never will.
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Nostradamus'omh » 02 Jul 2023, 12:57 pm » wrote: I am not either. I merely explain the natural evolving process working in series parallel space only timing ancestries genetically apart now in plain sight of one another.

Series parallel energy flows work never duplicated details arriving after contracting results never same form shapes so far. If the future is unfolding, what folded the past into these specific current events following one track mantras protecting tomorrow that hasn't even happened once.

Name the time dawn wasn't the leading edge of this rotating planet revolving around the star orbited by its one moon going slower than rotation a rotation taking 23 hrs, 56 minutes, 56 seconds per rotation where time between new moon to new moon It takes about 27.3 days for the Moon to orbit Earth. However, because of how sunlight hits the Moon, it takes about 29.5 days to go from one new moon to the next new moon?

My point is natural evolving doesn't follow intellectual time logistics. never did, never will.
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You keep translating relationships between predatory and prey nature between separate species occupying time now. Dog belongs in a predatory species category, horse belongs in prey.

Physical characteristics are 90% always the same anatomically position of eyes and ears to ancestral positions of each. Things I learned in biology class 60 years ago when studying the balance of results and consequences when one side gets out of control, both sides lose overall.

Same thing applies to psychological class warfare playing 6 degrees of separation between two party conflicts as any two sides are always trained to think beyond self contained to your own skin forward here now.

You have a 1300 lb horse and maybe 100 lb dog. However, if that were a pack of wolves, the one being chased was a lure for the pack to attack from all sides.
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Nostradamus'omh » 02 Jul 2023, 1:10 pm » wrote: You keep translating relationships between predatory and prey nature between separate species occupying time now. Dog belongs in a predatory species category, horse belongs in prey.

Physical characteristics are 90% always the same anatomically position of eyes and ears to ancestral positions of each. Things I learned in biology class 60 years ago when studying the balance of results and consequences when one side gets out of control, both sides lose overall.

Same thing applies to psychological class warfare playing 6 degrees of separation between two party conflicts as any two sides are always trained to think beyond self contained to your own skin forward here now.

You have a 1300 lb horse and maybe 100 lb dog. However, if that were a pack of wolves, the one being chased was a lure for the pack to attack from all sides.
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OdeToJoy » 02 Jul 2023, 8:26 am » wrote: Poor baby.  Are you mad because you just got your butt kicked?
not at all, I'm just not going to go round and round with a rigged denier that all of  a sudden embraces fraud scheming..
 
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OdeToJoy » 02 Jul 2023, 7:25 am » wrote: Nope.  A representative for a for profit Hospice company came over to talk at my senior apartment building about hospice.  She said that Medicare required that Hospice was only for people whose doctors had determined that they would die in about a month.  But she said we didn't need to worry about that because some of these people were still alive, and on hospice care, after 18 months.

They had just converted basic homecare to the way more expensive hospice care.

There are a lot of videos on YouTube about the level of fraud in Hospice care.

https://youtu.be/D1tEjywL9ME

https://youtu.be/HVV8yib3MSE

https://youtu.be/zZ8ZCpC95hw
IDIOT!! Medicare HOSPICE care is for someone with less than 6 months to live and certified by a doctor. HOWEVER, NO MEDICAL DOCTOR ALIVE PAST OR PRESENT has been able to ACCURATELY time someones death. SOME live longer, others shorter time frames. So your CLAIM is bogus as it gets.

And in home nursing care is NOT the same as hospice care,. ****!!
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Beekeeper » 02 Jul 2023, 6:41 pm » wrote: IDIOT!! Medicare HOSPICE care is for someone with less than 6 months to live and certified by a doctor. HOWEVER, NO MEDICAL DOCTOR ALIVE PAST OR PRESENT has been able to ACCURATELY time someones death. SOME live longer, others shorter time frames. So your CLAIM is bogus as it gets.

And in home nursing care is NOT the same as hospice care,. ****!!

I do know the difference between homecare and hospice.   I do a little homecare to supplement my retirement income.  I've been doing it for the past 8 years since I turned 62.  I only work a little bit each week, but I like a little fun and vacation money.

Hospice costs 4x the cost of homecare.   One of the frauds was paying kickbacks to doctors to certify non terminal people as terminal,  provide homecare, and then bill it as hospice.  

Since most homecare agencies bill at a rate $25-$30 per hour in my area.  Converting those clients to hospice would mean billing Medicare at a rate of $100-$120 per hour.  You can see the level of fraud in this area of care.

My cousin's wife recently died, after about 25 years of disability.  Two weeks before she died she was placed in hospice with 24/7 care with specialized hospice nurses. 

My brother-in-law was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer after Thanksgiving of last year.  He was placed in hospice beginning of December, and died December 11.

Doctors can tell whether you are going to die within a couple of weeks.  It might be 1 week or 3 weeks, but if you are still alive in 18 months; then it is fraud.
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