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Humans were designed to fall in love, pair off (i.e. get married) and have children while they are in their teens.  Delaying marriage has made women promiscuous and men irresponsible. Men believe they can wait until their mid 30's to get married.  Women believe they have their entire 20's to play around. 

This just isn't the case.  The later men and women wait to fall in love and start families, and the more they have sex with others, the less likely they will be able to form the bonds necessary to sustain a healthy relationship make and raise children.

Skans » 11 Jul 2023, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 10:04 am

Humans were designed to fall in love, pair off (i.e. get married) and have children while they are in their teens.  Delaying marriage has made women promiscuous and men irresponsible. Men believe they can wait until their mid 30's to get married.  Women believe they have their entire 20's to play around. 

This just isn't the case.  The later men and women wait to fall in love and start families, and the more they have sex with others, the less likely they will be able to form the bonds necessary to sustain a healthy relationship make and raise children.

Yes. 100% agree. Young women seem to forget that their beauty has an expiration. A lot of them are starting to get the face lifts and plastic by the time they are 28 or 30. Men want beauty. They need to get their man while they still have the looks. Men, overall, don't want the girls with face lifts.

Skans » 11 Jul 2023, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 10:04 am

Humans were designed to fall in love, pair off (i.e. get married) and have children while they are in their teens.  Delaying marriage has made women promiscuous and men irresponsible. Men believe they can wait until their mid 30's to get married.  Women believe they have their entire 20's to play around. 

This just isn't the case.  The later men and women wait to fall in love and start families, and the more they have sex with others, the less likely they will be able to form the bonds necessary to sustain a healthy relationship make and raise children.

Inaccurate. Intellectual minds corrupting newly added brains changing population never same lifetimes twice behaving the same way each added generation gap forward now.

The common since sense is rule of law is what humanity labeled the Great Satan in every society honoring self deception as a higher degree of evolution.

Seems nothing is going good

for the crumbling empire.

Sumela » 11 Jul 2023, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 11:31 am

Seems nothing is going good

for the crumbling empire.

I believe one major reason , perhaps the biggest one, as to why our society and empire is crumbling is due to ungratefulness. Most Americans, in particular progressives, have no idea how good they have it. Yes, we have our share of the poor, but generally speaking, even our poor get government assistance with AC and running water. The point I am making is that most Americans are so spoiled that they think getting pissed at a Starbuck's employee for getting their order wrong is not a waste of time. To them it's a worthwhile endeavor that deserves to be recorded and uploaded on social media for likes and views. This is their idea of being wronged. Pathetic.

Vegas » 11 Jul 2023, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 11:53 am

I believe one major reason , perhaps the biggest one, as to why our society and empire is crumbling is due to ungratefulness. Most Americans, in particular progressives, have no idea how good they have it. Yes, we have our share of the poor, but generally speaking, even our poor get government assistance with AC and running water. The point I am making is that most Americans are so spoiled that they think getting pissed at a Starbuck's employee for getting their order wrong is not a waste of time. To them it's a worthwhile endeavor that deserves to be recorded and uploaded on social media for likes and views. This is their idea of being wronged. Pathetic.

Technology, automation, and increased economic fortunes create this. Not sure how you plan to unring this bell. I agree with your sentiment. I tire of the faux outrage from everyone (this forum included). Always searching desperately for something, anything to be outraged about. The day is not complete, life is a waste.. If I can't be pissed off about something. 

Vegas » 11 Jul 2023, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 11:53 am

I believe one major reason , perhaps the biggest one, as to why our society and empire is crumbling is due to ungratefulness. Most Americans, in particular progressives, have no idea how good they have it. Yes, we have our share of the poor, but generally speaking, even our poor get government assistance with AC and running water. The point I am making is that most Americans are so spoiled that they think getting pissed at a Starbuck's employee for getting their order wrong is not a waste of time. To them it's a worthwhile endeavor that deserves to be recorded and uploaded on social media for likes and views. This is their idea of being wronged. Pathetic.

I agree with your premise.
We have never had to suffer or learn humility.  Thus the being such spoiled ingrates.
Always told we are exceptional....the indispensable nation.  God's chosen.

What has all this produced?  A fat, spoiled, vapid, unintelligent populace. 
And conservatism has devolved into '''NUKE'EM NEOCONS'''.    

American conservatism is a complete and utter failure.
 

Vegas » 11 Jul 2023, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 10:46 am

Yes. 100% agree. Young women seem to forget that their beauty has an expiration. A lot of them are starting to get the face lifts and plastic by the time they are 28 or 30. Men want beauty. They need to get their man while they still have the looks. Men, overall, don't want the girls with face lifts.

It's more than just looks.  Attraction is strongest women during their teens and for men during their late teens.  Even for a man, the ability to form a life-long bond with a woman diminishes as he approaches 30.

If we as a society ever want to get back to the male-female life-long family unit as the core to our way of life, and away from perversion, then we need to be encouraging life-long relationships to begin during teens that culminate in marriage prior to 21. Some societies, like the Amish, have had this figured out for hundreds of years.
 

Skans » 11 Jul 2023, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 12:29 pm

It's more than just looks.  Attraction is strongest women during their teens and for men during their late teens.  Even for a man, the ability to form a life-long bond with a woman diminishes as he approaches 30.

If we as a society ever want to get back to the male-female life-long family unit as the core to our way of life, and away from perversion, then we need to be encouraging life-long relationships to begin during teens that culminate in marriage prior to 21. Some societies, like the Amish, have had this figured out for hundreds of years.

It IS more than looks. I have held it together pretty well. But I’ve never dated a guy based on his looks. I do want to marry some day. Most men my age are very damaged.
 

Imgreatagain » 11 Jul 2023, 12:41 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 12:41 pm

It IS more than looks. I have held it together pretty well. But I’ve never dated a guy based on his looks. I do want to marry some day. Most men my age are very damaged.

Here's what single, older men are.  They are very set in their ways.  Their ability / mental flexibility to mold themselves into part of a family unit has hardened over time.  On top of that, they are scared to lose what they have accumulated on their own in a divorce.  They have Grinder, Tinder, AdultFriendFinder, etc. to find sex when they need it.  Or, they can get on the internet and jack-off to porn.

It sucks, but those are the cards in that deck.

But, what REALLY sucks, is that this now applies to boys/men 13 years old to 25 years of age. They are being taught that there is nothing to be gained by swearing a life-oath to someone of the opposite sex who swears the same to him. THIS is the great reset.  We are at the beginning of it.
 
 

Skans » 11 Jul 2023, 12:50 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 12:50 pm

Here's what single, older men are.  They are very set in their ways.  Their ability / mental flexibility to mold themselves into part of a family unit has hardened over time.  On top of that, they are scared to lose what they have accumulated on their own in a divorce.  They have Grinder, Tinder, AdultFriendFinder, etc. to find sex when they need it.  Or, they can get on the internet and jack-off to porn.

It sucks, but those are the cards in that deck.

Or… you have a woman who can take care of herself. Can can any man she wants. Why would she want to deal with a man’s baggage ? It’s a hard sell IMO
 

Imgreatagain » 11 Jul 2023, 12:52 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 12:52 pm

Or… you have a woman who can take care of herself. Can can any man she wants. Why would she want to deal with a man’s baggage ? It’s a hard sell IMO

Yes, that's the Female side of that equation. 

Why would a self-sufficient, attractive woman over 38 want to deal with a man's baggage? My only answer to that is, if she could find a man who would equally commit to her, to love her in the same manner as she does to him, there is a chance for a life with deeper meaning, brighter colors, and broader dimensions to it than as a solitary individual.
 
 

Skans » 11 Jul 2023, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 10:04 am

Humans were designed to fall in love, pair off (i.e. get married) and have children while they are in their teens.  Delaying marriage has made women promiscuous and men irresponsible. Men believe they can wait until their mid 30's to get married.  Women believe they have their entire 20's to play around. 

This just isn't the case.  The later men and women wait to fall in love and start families, and the more they have sex with others, the less likely they will be able to form the bonds necessary to sustain a healthy relationship make and raise children.

Such nonsense .........no foundation for this opinion.
 

Falling in love is such a wonderful experience why get married UNLESS someone feels a need to marry.

Fall in love as often as possible it could assist the immune system.

Skans » 11 Jul 2023, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 10:04 am

Humans were designed to fall in love, pair off (i.e. get married) and have children while they are in their teens.  Delaying marriage has made women promiscuous and men irresponsible. Men believe they can wait until their mid 30's to get married.  Women believe they have their entire 20's to play around. 

This just isn't the case.  The later men and women wait to fall in love and start families, and the more they have sex with others, the less likely they will be able to form the bonds necessary to sustain a healthy relationship make and raise children.

I fall in love every day at the gym...does that count?
 

razoo » 11 Jul 2023, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 1:02 pm

Such nonsense .........no foundation for this opinion.

FOUNDATION:

• Female Humans are designed to be able to get pregnant at age 12-13 and carry a child to term.
• Male Humans are designed to be able to impregnate females by about age 13-15.
• For thousands of years, up until about 60 years ago, it was commonplace for women to get married and start having children at about 15 years old.
• For thousands of years, up until about 60 years ago, it was commonplace for men to marry at around age 17-18.
• For thousands of years, it was not commonplace for men or women to put off marriage until their 20's and/or '30's - this is a present abomination due to technology which effectively inhibits pregnancy.
• For all of time, until about 20 years ago, marriage was between a man and a woman, because anything other than that was nonsensical and irrelevant.

 
 

ROG62 » 11 Jul 2023, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 1:06 pm

I fall in love every day at the gym...does that count?

You, for sure, go to a nicer gym than I do.  Most at mine are men.  But of the women who go there, 80% of females at my gym(s) are fat bowsers, dykes, and a few dried-up old titty dancers......no, you don't want to go there!  Occasionally, a cute girl, but too young for me to even be looking at.

But, I used to go to gyms where the females are attractive. 
 
 
 

I got married at age 31 and was the better for it. Age 15... what a dumpster fire that would have been.

impartialobserver » 11 Jul 2023, 1:34 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 1:34 pm

I got married at age 31 and was the better for it. Age 15... what a dumpster fire that would have been.

The way things are in this world, and the way things may have been with your folks, perhaps. All I'm saying is that we humans were not designed to delay marriage.  It is unnatural.
 

impartialobserver » 11 Jul 2023, 12:13 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 12:13 pm

Technology, automation, and increased economic fortunes create this. Not sure how you plan to unring this bell. I agree with your sentiment. I tire of the faux outrage from everyone (this forum included). Always searching desperately for something, anything to be outraged about. The day is not complete, life is a waste.. If I can't be pissed off about something.

No need to reverse tech. Tech has made life wonderful. I would argue to just be grateful. That's it. Nothing more. You would be surprised how powerful gratefulness can influence a society. For example, in Japan, they show school children videos of their parents and adults working in their field. Most of them doing hard labor, such as cleaning the sewer systems, fishing boats, mining, warehouses and factories, and brutal construction work. The workers are wore down and exhausted. The children are in awe. After they see these vids the children have tremendous respect for the people who are responsible for their infrastructure and take nothing for granted. They grow up being grateful. 

Some solutions can be simple.