The home port of the russian fleet is crimea. Russia is already IN the black sea.
To me they are more embarrassing. I mean, we've had since reagan to get used to panty waist repukes playing frank burns and prancing like *** with military jingo ushering from their cock sockets between cum bubbles.Sumela » 11 Jul 2023, 9:41 pm » wrote: ↑ Neocon libs
are almost as
embarrassing
as RINO neocons.
UkkksepshunauLL HAHA
Link, you retarded ****?
A fearsome duo.
Your sources keep you DAZZLINGLY informed, Polly.Bruce » 12 Jul 2023, 12:27 am » wrote: ↑ Another embarrassment for Putin is while the Russian army was vastly larger and the Russian population and economy larger than Ukraine, and both armies used the same Soviet era weapons, the Ukrainians proved much more competent.
The Russians use draftees, and until recently mercenaries (which didn’t exactly work out very well when they moved on Moscow) Russian officers were ineffective, the soldiers ran off, and the flower of the Russian army was wasted and chewed up at the beginning of the war.
By capturing equipment the Ukrainians have more tanks than on the first day of the war.
The flagship of the Black Sea fleet is on the bottom.
The Crimea bridge was destroyed and rebuilt and may be taken down again.
Russia still has supporters, including much of the American right wing.
But the Russian bear turned out a paper Tiger.
Cannonpointer » 12 Jul 2023, 1:03 am » wrote: ↑ Your sources keep you DAZZLINGLY informed, Polly.
You can parrot propoganda with the best feathered fruitcakes in the land.
ACT shoe alley,Taipan » 12 Jul 2023, 1:59 am » wrote: ↑ The Angels in Heaven..................ask.
Do you wish to fight ?
If Ukraine was doing so well, one might wonder why we would supply cluster bombs.Bruce » 11 Jul 2023, 10:56 pm » wrote: ↑ Here is Putin’s problem today.
He rules a thug ocracy. The Soviets sold all major industries thirty years ago to oligarchs. It’s a stagnant, corrupt, Russian version of crony capitalism.
But Russia still had what the world thought was a formidable conventional army, one that could slice through to the Rhine in days, a week at most.
His army can’t take Kyiv. The Ukrainians just mauled it.
Can you imagine 50,000 dead and 150,000 severely wounded soldiers, 4,000 lost armored vehicles, and then a rebel brigade gets within a hundred miles of Moscow?
The West no longer fears invasion.
NATO would just devastate the attackers.
And Russia has nothing we don’t have already, but better.
They have roughly a 30 ft draft. So operation in 60 METERS means roughly 170 ft from the bottom, ****. Fact is MOST SUBS have only a 300 meter SAFE OPERATIONAL DEPTH, so operating IN THE BALTIC SEA means they are still submerged and FAR from being "unable to operate".Bruce » 11 Jul 2023, 10:11 pm » wrote: ↑ —
The Oscar class, Soviet designations Project 949 Granit and Project 949A Antey (NATO reporting names Oscar I and Oscar II respectively), are a series of nuclear-powered cruise missile submarinesdesigned in the Soviet Union for the Soviet Navy. First built in the 1970s, six remain in service with the Russian Navy. Two other vessels were slated to be modernized since at least 2017 as Project 949AM, to extend their service life and increase combat capabilities but it is unclear whether work continues as of 2023.
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Oscars are end of the world doomsday weapons.
The reason nobody operates nuclear attack subs in the Baltic is that Oscar has to stay in deep water in the Baltic and even then it’s a sitting duck, it’s sail barely submerged.
That Oscar is useless now.
If it transits the Baltic to blue water, it won’t be coming home if there’s a war.
If it stays in port there are multiple nukes targeting it.
Nobody wants Turkey in the EU because 1) Turkey has too many Arabic refugees who will be allowed to freely travel to other EU countries and 2) Turkey's economy is more like Greece's and Spain's. Not nearly as strong as Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Denmark, etc.Bruce » 11 Jul 2023, 8:33 pm » wrote: ↑ VILNIUS, Lithuania (AP) — Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Monday introduced a new condition for approving Sweden's membership in NATO, calling on European countries to "open the way" for Turkey to join the European Union.
The surprise announcement by Erdogan before departing to a NATO summit in Lithuania's capital added new uncertainty to Sweden's bid to become the alliance's 32nd member, which Turkey initially blocked saying Sweden was too soft on Kurdish militants and other groups that Ankara considers security threats.
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The back story is Joe agreed to let Turkey have F-16s although Dems worried Turkey is using our weapons to slaughter Kurds, are not amused.
And this is a dual loss for Putin.
First, Turkey was warming towards Russia. If Turkey is made part of the EU that’s over.
And the second reason is the Baltic Ocean just became a NATO lake, due to Sweden’s submarine fleet.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... r%20built.
The real loser is the Kurds.
Look for Fox News to support the Kurds, in between reports of Hunter Biden’s laptop.
I am wondering why we haven't supplied nukes. We wasted time acting, and this is what you get.neueregel » 12 Jul 2023, 7:12 am » wrote: ↑ If Ukraine was doing so well, one might wonder why we would supply cluster bombs.
HAHA.Cannonpointer » 12 Jul 2023, 12:36 am » wrote: ↑ It's pretty hilarious that anyone can talk with a straight face about an asian nation joining the eu.
Such a funny joke. Being full of **** must pay good money these days - so many are doing it.
Psssst. FruitLOOP, you boy can't even MAKE IT TO THE STATE DINNER for all the GOVERNMENT LEADERS, so you call this a "win"???Bruce » 11 Jul 2023, 8:33 pm » wrote: ↑ VILNIUS, Lithuania (AP) — Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Monday introduced a new condition for approving Sweden's membership in NATO, calling on European countries to "open the way" for Turkey to join the European Union.
The surprise announcement by Erdogan before departing to a NATO summit in Lithuania's capital added new uncertainty to Sweden's bid to become the alliance's 32nd member, which Turkey initially blocked saying Sweden was too soft on Kurdish militants and other groups that Ankara considers security threats.
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The back story is Joe agreed to let Turkey have F-16s although Dems worried Turkey is using our weapons to slaughter Kurds, are not amused.
And this is a dual loss for Putin.
First, Turkey was warming towards Russia. If Turkey is made part of the EU that’s over.
And the second reason is the Baltic Ocean just became a NATO lake, due to Sweden’s submarine fleet.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... r%20built.
The real loser is the Kurds.
Look for Fox News to support the Kurds, in between reports of Hunter Biden’s laptop.
Bro, they don't even REMEMBER that. Their feelings are accessible by their masters. They are soul slaves.Sumela » 12 Jul 2023, 8:12 am » wrote: ↑ HAHA.
And they are all kicking the Turds to the curb now.
3 years ago they peed buckets of tears over the Turds
The Turds were Holy, Righteous...until they were not again.
Give your dog a gun, your stupid queer.Skans » 12 Jul 2023, 8:07 am » wrote: ↑ I am wondering why we haven't supplied nukes. We wasted time acting, and this is what you get.
You are consistently retarded. They brought them in to loot them.Skans » 12 Jul 2023, 8:05 am » wrote: ↑ Oh, and England was smart to get out. Its economy is too strong to be burdened by the economies of:Seriously, who ever thought it was a good idea to admit these weak countries into a currency union with the strong European nations?
- Bulgaria
- Cyprus
- Estonia
- Greece
- Latvia
- Lithuania
- Spain
- Croatia
- Romania
Spain has thrice the economy of belgium, with four times the population.Skans » 12 Jul 2023, 7:57 am » wrote: ↑ Nobody wants Turkey in the EU because 1) Turkey has too many Arabic refugees who will be allowed to freely travel to other EU countries and 2) Turkey's economy is more like Greece's and Spain's. Not nearly as strong as Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Denmark, etc.
He hears it, he gushes it.Beekeeper » 12 Jul 2023, 7:45 am » wrote: ↑ They have roughly a 30 ft draft. So operation in 60 METERS means roughly 170 ft from the bottom, ****. Fact is MOST SUBS have only a 300 meter SAFE OPERATIONAL DEPTH, so operating IN THE BALTIC SEA means they are still submerged and FAR from being "unable to operate".
Sure deeper water means a far better chance of operating UNDETECTED, but they do operate in SHALLOW WATER 60 meters deep just fine.
You and your handlers are TOTAL IDIOTS.
Why are they still spreading their legs and screeching for help?Bruce » 11 Jul 2023, 10:56 pm » wrote: ↑ Here is Putin’s problem today.
He rules a thug ocracy. The Soviets sold all major industries thirty years ago to oligarchs. It’s a stagnant, corrupt, Russian version of crony capitalism.
But Russia still had what the world thought was a formidable conventional army, one that could slice through to the Rhine in days, a week at most.
His army can’t take Kyiv. The Ukrainians just mauled it.
Can you imagine 50,000 dead and 150,000 severely wounded soldiers, 4,000 lost armored vehicles, and then a rebel brigade gets within a hundred miles of Moscow?
The West no longer fears invasion.
NATO would just devastate the attackers.
And Russia has nothing we don’t have already, but better.