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BuckNaked » 16 Jul 2023, 9:24 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 9:24 pm

yea she’s 18 so?

You RINOS are all the same.  Yer squirming now  

The pic you lusted over and posted for...she was ELEVEN.  """DSLs"" you said

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Bruce » 16 Jul 2023, 8:07 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 8:07 pm

That’s the reason for Kamala Harris.

She’d become the first black  woman President.

And it would break those MAGAS from sucking eggs, for sure.

But while I don’t love Joe, I like Joe.

More than enough to vote again for him.

Camela Harris' approval ratings are even more abysmal than Xiden's. Being the first black/Indian vagina raised in Canada means absolutely nothing. Identity politics doesn't work anymore and we know this now because of Xiden's administration of tranny, ***, *** infested incompetent cabinet.

And It's your right to vote against your best interest. Millions of *** do it every 2-4 years

Warcok » 16 Jul 2023, 10:05 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 10:05 pm

Camela Harris' approval ratings are even more abysmal than Xiden's. Being the first black/Indian vagina raised in Canada means absolutely nothing. Identity politics doesn't work anymore and we know this now because of Xiden's administration of tranny, ***, *** infested incompetent cabinet.

And It's your right to vote against your best interest. Millions of *** do it every 2-4 years

Who knows the percentage of decent, thoughtful, neighbor next door type Republicans.

They aren’t too keen on trannies in girls sports (neither am I) and they worry about the national debt and illegal immigration (so do I).

But the MAGAS call Joe a pedophile and say he’s old and his son Hunter is a piece of **** (which Hunter is) but they cannot call Joe a nxxxer or a chimp or a whore or a baboon or say West Indian black people aren’t black people.

Kamala would shove MAGA off the cliff.

They couldn’t help disgracing the Republican Party.

 

Bruce » 16 Jul 2023, 9:27 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 9:27 pm

As a stunt, not regular driving, you can feather the throttle going up hills and then gain speed down hills and get 32-3 mpg at 45-55 mph until that **** gets old.

Some Hemis get a tick and mine so far hasn’t.

This is the last year for 300s and Chargers.

By 2028 Chrysler (Stellatis) will be all EVs.

We will likely lose some range.  But I fill up at about 250 miles today.  And a young man with a wife and brats might go no more than 150 miles until he has to stop.

As marvelous as my Hemi is, it’s about 20% efficient.

As good, quiet, and reliable as it is, there’s pistons and valves and camshafts whirling and a crankshaft turning a transmission and a driveshaft and then a differential.

An  electric motor spins an axle.  It’s three times or more efficient, and I’d suppose ghostly quiet.

The MAGAS will line up to buy electrics the same as us.

They are already better. When they are cheaper new (and they should be-no drivetrain to build) nobody will ever miss buying gas.

YOU CAN GET OUT AND PUSH IT UPHILL TOO.
LAST YEAR FOR CAMAROS AND VIPER. 

BOTH REPUBLICAN AND LEFTISTS ARE ANGRY. THEY SEE BEING FORCED TO PURCHASE AN EV THAT MANY CAN'T AFFORD, AS AN ACT OF TOTALITARIANISM, AN UNNECESSARY RELIANCE ON ELECTRICITY WE AREN'T PREPARED FOR. AMERICAS ELECTRIC GRIDS ARE NO WHERE READY TO HANDLE ADDITIONAL POWER DRAIN.  THE GREEN NEW DEAL IS A BOGUS AGENDA FOR NEW GLOBALIST MONEY MAKING START UPS.
FOSSIL FUELS AND MINERALS UNAVAILABLE IN THE U.S. ARE NECESSARY FOR THEIR PRODUCTION. 
THERE WILL BE MAJOR BLOWBACK FROM AMERICA OVER THIS EVIL AGENDA   


EV'S ARE GARBAGE. EXPLOSIVE BOMBS. NOTHING WILL EXTINGUISH IT FROM FIRE. VEHICLE IS TOTALED.  NO SAVINGS WITH RISING ELECTRICITY COSTS. BATTERY REPLACEMENT COSTS IN EXCESS OF $6,000 AFTER 7-9 YEARS.



 
 

Sumela » 16 Jul 2023, 8:43 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 8:43 pm

You didnt post that....you looked at a pic of an 11yo girl.
and posted....SHE HAS DICK SUCKING LIPS...stop lying creeper.
The post is there. And you still make fun of it....so funny haha.
Just like Libs make fun of grooming kids.

You deserve a

groomer designation with your avatar....

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Thank you for your sharp lookout, good citizen. 
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Jul 2023, 10:29 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 10:29 pm

Thank you for your sharp lookout, good citizen.

Im a simple observer 
 

Sumela » 16 Jul 2023, 10:32 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 10:32 pm

Im a simple observer

I find you to be an astute one, sir.
 

Bruce » 16 Jul 2023, 12:54 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 12:54 am

My wife....

LMAO.  This sock homo is still try to pass himself off as hetero.    
 

righteous » 16 Jul 2023, 10:19 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 10:19 pm

YOU CAN GET OUT AND PUSH IT UPHILL TOO.
LAST YEAR FOR CAMAROS AND VIPER. 

BOTH REPUBLICAN AND LEFTISTS ARE ANGRY. THEY SEE BEING FORCED TO PURCHASE AN EV THAT MANY CAN'T AFFORD, AS AN ACT OF TOTALITARIANISM, AN UNNECESSARY RELIANCE ON ELECTRICITY WE AREN'T PREPARED FOR. AMERICAS ELECTRIC GRIDS ARE NO WHERE READY TO HANDLE ADDITIONAL POWER DRAIN.  THE GREEN NEW DEAL IS A BOGUS AGENDA FOR NEW GLOBALIST MONEY MAKING START UPS.
FOSSIL FUELS AND MINERALS UNAVAILABLE IN THE U.S. ARE NECESSARY FOR THEIR PRODUCTION. 
THERE WILL BE MAJOR BLOWBACK FROM AMERICA OVER THIS EVIL AGENDA   

EV'S ARE GARBAGE. EXPLOSIVE BOMBS. NOTHING WILL EXTINGUISH IT FROM FIRE. VEHICLE IS TOTALED.  NO SAVINGS WITH RISING ELECTRICITY COSTS. BATTERY REPLACEMENT COSTS IN EXCESS OF $6,000 AFTER 7-9 YEARS.

Last night 87 octane unleaded regular cost $3.13 a gallon, and a four or six cylinder car can easily get 32 miles per gallon on the freeway.  That car runs for ten cents a mile on $3.20 gas.  You can buy one for $32,000.

Our local electric rates are just under 11 cents a kilowatt hour.  Today Elon Musk makes a $32,000 Tesla (after rebate) that operates at 3 cents a mile on 11 cents a kilowatt electricity.

The batteries in a 2023 Tesla are ten times cheaper than batteries in a 2013 Tesla.  The Tesla itself is about two times cheaper.

A Tesla runs 250 miles, recharges in no more than thirty minutes, for $7.50, and runs 250 more miles.

Plus a $50,000 Tesla outruns a $100,000 Charger Hellcat.  0-60 in 3 seconds.

My Hemi has 16 spark plugs. Tesla doesn’t have spark plugs, or pistons, or valves, or camshafts, or a crankshaft, or a conventional transmission.

Elon Musk is the new Henry Ford.  A Tesla is the new Model T.

Next year Musk will sell about two million Teslas, and that’s just Teslas, not all the millions more GM, Ford, and Chrysler are going to sell, in a few years.

It won’t be long before you see EVs with Trump stickers.

They cost three times less to run.

**** saving the planet.  

An EV saves so much money nothing will stop them.

Plus, I’d like a thousand horsepower, and so will everybody else.

Base model EVs have about the same power as my Hemi.  The fast ones have about a thousand horsepower.

 
 

Get a ev rental and take the family on a 4 hour drive from Boston to Bar Harbor… you will never get in a EV again.

NEILCAR » 17 Jul 2023, 7:02 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 7:02 am

Get a ev rental and take the family on a 4 hour drive from Boston to Bar Harbor… you will never get in a EV again.

I had a dear old friend who had a saying, every time somebody bad mouthed new cars:
 
You have to get up awfully early in the morning to get ahead of a General Motors engineer.

Elon Musk, might become the world’s first person who is worth a trillion dollars.

The problems with electrics are two.

1. High new cost.

Musk’s Tesla 3 costs 33 grand after rebate.  


2. Range

A Tesla 3 has the same range as my father’s new 1965 Galaxie 500 had, and then some.

EV advantages are

1. They operate on 3 cents a mile

2. The slowest ones outrun a 396 Chevelle

The liberal do gooders are not going to legislate EVs

The whole world will want one 

 

Cannonpointer » 16 Jul 2023, 10:38 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 10:38 pm

I find you to be an astute one, sir.

 
 

NEILCAR » 17 Jul 2023, 7:02 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 7:02 am

Get a ev rental and take the family on a 4 hour drive from Boston to Bar Harbor… you will never get in a EV again.

why?

Bruce » 17 Jul 2023, 7:14 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 7:14 am

The whole world will want one

The price has to come down a good 30%, they need to charge much faster and there needs to be an awful lot more charging stations.

michaelf » 17 Jul 2023, 11:07 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 11:07 am

The price has to come down a good 30%, they need to charge much faster and there needs to be an awful lot more charging stations.

Agreed.

But 99% of those EVs are not going to need a quick charge. 

All gasoline cars, need a public gas station.

The EV gets charged every night at home.

The only EVs at the public charging stations will have traveled nearly  halfway past their safe range.

And as for cost, the car itself is basically unchanged for thirty years.  

What an EV does is substitute a battery for a gas tank.

Then instead of an engine, transmission and drive train, they stick an electric motor (or two) on an axle.

Once the customer ever gets his first EV he’s never going back to gasoline 





 

Bruce » 17 Jul 2023, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 3:16 pm

Agreed.

But 99% of those EVs are not going to need a quick charge. 

All gasoline cars, need a public gas station.

The EV gets charged every night at home.

The only EVs at the public charging stations will have traveled nearly  halfway past their safe range.

And as for cost, the car itself is basically unchanged for thirty years.  

What an EV does is substitute a battery for a gas tank.

Then instead of an engine, transmission and drive train, they stick an electric motor (or two) on an axle.

Once the customer ever gets his first EV he’s never going back to gasoline

Well see...I'm not set up well for charging overnight at home. Car lives outside and we need two vehicles. Only have 100 amp service for the whole property and I'd need electrical work before I could plug in much of a charger. Can you imagine running charge cords across the yard every night, especially in the dead of winter?  No thanks. Not to mention that the power goes out every time the weather gets a little rough. Do I use my gas generator to charge the two cars? I'll have to get a bigger generator and keep a lot of gas on hand.  

No. Build them to take a full charge in 5 minutes or so and I will NEVER charge at home. 
 

michaelf » 17 Jul 2023, 4:58 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 4:58 pm

Well see...I'm not set up well for charging overnight at home. Car lives outside and we need two vehicles. Only have 100 amp service for the whole property and I'd need electrical work before I could plug in much of a charger. Can you imagine running charge cords across the yard every night, especially in the dead of winter?  No thanks. Not to mention that the power goes out every time the weather gets a little rough. Do I use my gas generator to charge the two cars? I'll have to get a bigger generator and keep a lot of gas on hand.  

No. Build them to take a full charge in 5 minutes or so and I will NEVER charge at home.

Those gas cars will last for a good twenty years after the last one is built.  But nobody will want one.  As they break down nobody will repair one.

But why you’ll pay a few hundred dollars to upgrade your electric service is these new EVs will be God’s gift to the power companies.

Each night while we sleep power usage drops to almost nothing.  Power companies have excess capacity out their ***.

Home charging overnight might be half the cost of a public charger.  Already my power company has a discount for off peak usage.




 

When electric vehicles get more popular I predict a sharp increase in house fires.

Bruce » 17 Jul 2023, 5:15 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 5:15 pm

Those gas cars will last for a good twenty years after the last one is built.  But nobody will want one.  As they break down nobody will repair one.

But why you’ll pay a few hundred dollars to upgrade your electric service is these new EVs will be God’s gift to the power companies.

Each night while we sleep power usage drops to almost nothing.  Power companies have excess capacity out their ***.

Home charging overnight might be half the cost of a public charger.  Already my power company has a discount for off peak usage.

Time of use billing isn't anything new. If you have much industry in the area the electrical grid is busier than you think at night. I've never seen TOU billing available for residential though it's common in industry. I've never seen a meter that'll handle anything like TOU on a house.

It's going to take a lot more than a few hundred dollars to take care of the electric service issues especially in older homes. What about the millions of people that live in the city and park on the street or live in apartment buildings? And there is still the winter and power outages.

A large percentage of drivers need to have their vehicles ready for the morning when they park it at night..
 
 

Bruce » 17 Jul 2023, 6:20 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 6:20 am

Last night 87 octane unleaded regular cost $3.13 a gallon, and a four or six cylinder car can easily get 32 miles per gallon on the freeway.  That car runs for ten cents a mile on $3.20 gas.  You can buy one for $32,000.

Our local electric rates are just under 11 cents a kilowatt hour.  Today Elon Musk makes a $32,000 Tesla (after rebate) that operates at 3 cents a mile on 11 cents a kilowatt electricity.

The batteries in a 2023 Tesla are ten times cheaper than batteries in a 2013 Tesla.  The Tesla itself is about two times cheaper.

A Tesla runs 250 miles, recharges in no more than thirty minutes, for $7.50, and runs 250 more miles.

Plus a $50,000 Tesla outruns a $100,000 Charger Hellcat.  0-60 in 3 seconds.

My Hemi has 16 spark plugs. Tesla doesn’t have spark plugs, or pistons, or valves, or camshafts, or a crankshaft, or a conventional transmission.

Elon Musk is the new Henry Ford.  A Tesla is the new Model T.

Next year Musk will sell about two million Teslas, and that’s just Teslas, not all the millions more GM, Ford, and Chrysler are going to sell, in a few years.

It won’t be long before you see EVs with Trump stickers.

They cost three times less to run.

**** saving the planet.  

An EV saves so much money nothing will stop them.

Plus, I’d like a thousand horsepower, and so will everybody else.

Base model EVs have about the same power as my Hemi.  The fast ones have about a thousand horsepower.

AMERICAS RELIANCE ON MINERALS FOR BATTERY PRODUCTION IS A MAJOR PROBLEM. MORE MARKET CONTROL AND POWER FOR CHINA. THE NEWER TESLA IF DEVELOPED WILL BE A TOTAL CHINESE PRODUCTION MADE IN CHINA.

A MINOR ACCIDENT CAN TOTAL AN EV. 
EV MAKERS LIKE TESLA USE STRUCTURAL BATTERY PACKS. THIS MAKES THE BATTERIES MORE LIKELY TO BE DAMAGED IN A CRASH, WHICH MAKES REPAIR OR RECYCLING DIFFICULT RENDERING A TOTALED VEHICLE.
THE DIFFICULTY OF RECYCLING IS PRODUCING MORE TOXIC WASTE THAN EXPECTED.
STRUCTURAL BATTERY PACKS ARE ALSO THE ONLY WAY TO REDUCE THE COST OF THE VEHICLE. 

THE AVERAGE NATIONAL KILOWATT RATE PER HOUR IS 16 CENTS. THE COST OF ELECTRICITY WILL BE RISING AT A VERY FAST RATE. PROBLEMS PRODUCING IT WILL SOON FOLLOW. THE DEMAND WILL BE MUCH LARGER THAN THE SUPPLY AND THE BIDEN CRIME ORGANIZATION HAS NOT A PLAN FOR IT.
MANY PEOPLE I SPEAK TO ABOUT THEIR TESLAS COMPLAIN NOW ABOUT THE HIGH COSTS FOR CHARGING THE VEHICLE.

THE CHEAP TESLAS ARE NOT IN PRODUCTION. NO DEFINITE PLANS FOR THE $25,000 MODEL. MUSK REPORTED THAT IT'S MORE REASONABLE TO SAY THAT MODEL WILL BE IN THE $35,000 RANGE. 
LFP BATTERY (LITHIUM IRON PHOSPHATE) CELLS ARE NOT SCALABLE AND THERE COULD NOT BE ANY SLASH IN THE COST OF ANY MODEL TESLA UNTIL AN LFP IS FULLY DEVELOPED AND TESTED. WHAT MAY BE REDUCED WITH COST IS RUN TIME/ MILEAGE BETWEEN CHARGES, RELIABILTY AND BATTERY LIFE.
. THERE ARE LESS MODULES IN BATTERIES OF THE NEWER TESLAS. OLDER ONES HAD 11 TO 16 MODULES; NEWER ONES HAVE 4 TO 5. THE COST OF ONE MODULE IS BETWEEN $4000.00 - $5000.00. REPLACING A BATTERY IN A NEWER TESLA CURRENTLY CAN COST BETWEEN $16,000 TO $25,000.

AMERICANS ARE CATCHING ON AND SOON WILL BE BOYCOTTING EV VEHICLES LEADING TO EV PRODUCTION PLANTS TO SHUTTER THEIR DOORS. WE CAN ONLY HOPE FOR A REAL INSURRECTION IN 2024 TO DESTROY THE CRIME ORGANIZATIONS IRRESPONSIBLE AND DESTRUCTIVE PLANS FOR AMERICA