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roadkill » 17 Jul 2023, 11:03 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 11:03 am

It's the dems who are scheming, always was and is.  

What reality works at eliminating reasonable doubt? Every reality builds its society on codes of silencing instinctive awareness until extinction arrives. One thing in common with dictatorships and democracy.

Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2023, 11:00 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 11:00 am

Not only was there room in that "word for word ASSERTION" for the maning [sic] I gave, but I went on to clarify it, that there be no misunderstanding it again.

That you are still niggling about it tells us what we need to know. You are grasping at straws to change the topic.

Keep butt hurting over a meaning you WANTED my post to carry, even after I clarified it, pedophile enabler.

Eat my shorts, groomer. You support Epps, yourself - simply because the right is calling him out for the fed you secretly know him to be. You're just lying because it's your natural reaction when your mouth moves.

"a vast majority of your party" doesn't really have a multitude of alternate definitions, no matter what time signature you tap dance around it with.

I have NEVER supported Epps.  He is a MAGA moron.  I think he should be in prison along with everyone else who stormed through barriers or broke windows or doors or bludgeoned LEO's with pikes on January 6th.  I have no idea how DoJ decided which of those assholes to prosecute and which ones to let go, but, IMHO, letting ANY of them escape indictment was a huge mistake...and I have NEVER said otherwise.

And not only am I NOT a pedophile enabler, I am the father of a DDA who just worked her *** off to get the law changed to make it EASIER to convict pedophiles in my state.
 

maineman » 17 Jul 2023, 11:27 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 11:27 am

"a vast majority of your party" doesn't really have a multitude of alternate definitions, no matter what time signature you tap dance around it with.

I have NEVER supported Epps.  He is a MAGA moron.  I think he should be in prison along with everyone else who stormed through barriers or broke windows or doors or bludgeoned LEO's with pikes on January 6th.  I have no idea how DoJ decided which of those assholes to prosecute and which ones to let go, but, IMHO, letting ANY of them escape indictment was a huge mistake...and I have NEVER said otherwise.

And not only am I NOT a pedophile enabler, I am the father of a DDA who just worked her *** off to get the law changed to make it EASIER to convict pedophiles in my state.

All libtards like you are **** worthless.
 

Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2023, 10:48 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 10:48 am

Explain why Trump is guilty for speech that you insist IMPLIED they should go into the capitol, and others are guilty for their mere PRESENCE on the mall, but epps is innocent for speech that SAID they should invade the capitol. 

Go.

trump planned for this for months.

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https://apnews.com/article/capitol-sieg ... ae682fda70


WASHINGTON (AP) — Members of the far-right Oath Keepers were ecstatic when then-President Donald Trump invited supporters to a “wild” protest in Washington on Jan. 6, 2021, when Congress would be certifying the results of the 2020 election, according to messages shown Thursday during the seditious conspiracy trial for the militia group’s founder and four associates.During an FBI agent’s testimony, jurors saw a string of online posts that Oath Keepers members in Florida exchanged after Trump’s tweet on Dec. 19, 2020, about a “big protest” at the upcoming joint session of Congress on Jan. 6. “Be there, will be wild!” Trump said.“He wants us to make it WILD,” Kelly Meggs, an Oath Keepers leader from Dunnellon, Florida, wrote in a message to other group members. “He called us all to the Capitol and wants us to make it wild!!! Sir Yes Sir!!!

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******no mention of epps  though.******

how would a protest at the capitol  be wild?
 

jerrab » 17 Jul 2023, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 1:02 pm

trump planned for this for months.

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https://apnews.com/article/capitol-sieg ... ae682fda70

Thank you for sharing someone else's opinions with me - really do appreciate that. 

In your own well-considered, self-generated, cognitively consistent, principle-based words, explain why Trump is guilty for speech that you insist IMPLIED they should go into the capitol, and others are guilty for their mere PRESENCE on the mall, but epps is innocent for speech that SAID they should invade the capitol. 

Go.

 
 

Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2023, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 1:06 pm

Thank you for sharing someone else's opinions with me - really do appreciate that. 

In your own well-considered, self-generated, cognitively consistent, principle-based words, explain why Trump is guilty for speech that you insist IMPLIED they should go into the capitol, and others are guilty for their mere PRESENCE on the mall, but epps is innocent for speech that SAID they should invade the capitol. 

Go.

no mention of epps

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/president-tru ... d=75757601



With former President Donald Trump's second impeachment trial starting today, Senate Democrats are focused on trying to tie a direct line between Trump's rhetoric and the deadly attack on the U.S. Capitol by his supporters.

An ABC News investigation into the nearly 200 accused rioters facing federal charges for their alleged involvement at the Capitol -- based on court filings, military records, interviews, and available news reports-- found that at least fifteen individuals who stormed the building have since said that they acted based on Trump's encouragement, including some of those accused of the most violent and serious crimes.

"I believed I was following the instructions of former President Trump," said Garret Miller in a statement released through his lawyer. "I also left Washington and started back to Texas immediately after President Trump asked us to go home."
 

jerrab » 17 Jul 2023, 1:59 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 1:59 pm

Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2023, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 1:06 pm

Thank you for sharing someone else's opinions with me - really do appreciate that. 

In your own well-considered, self-generated, cognitively consistent, principle-based words, explain why Trump is guilty for speech that you insist IMPLIED they should go into the capitol, and others are guilty for their mere PRESENCE on the mall, but epps is innocent for speech that SAID they should invade the capitol. 

Go.

A DESPERATE GISH GALLOP OF OTHER MEN'S WORDS.

                           
 
Just admit it, dck sucker. You CAN'T explain why you defend Epps - you just follow instructions, wee poodle.   

Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2023, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 2:02 pm

                           
 
Just admit it, dck sucker. You CAN'T explain why you defend Epps - you just follow instructions, wee poodle. 

no one says they were operating on epp's instructions.

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https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/ ... 361411001/

“Many members of the mob that attacked Congress and the Capitol understood themselves to be doing exactly what Trump wanted and directed them to do – ‘fight like hell’ and do whatever was needed to ‘Stop the Steal,’” Michael Stokes Paulsen, a law professor at the University of St. Thomas and a conservative constitutional law scholar, said in an email to USA TODAY. “Trump's words and actions stand on their own, of course,” Paulsen said. “But the fact that they were understood by many as intended to produce precisely the actions that occurred tends to confirm Trump's responsibility.”

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I already said he is a scapegoat, being blamed in order to detract trump's guilt.

they all say it was what trump wanted them to do,

what is more trump did nothing to stop it while they were beating cops  for hours even ivanka tried to get him to stop them and he refused because they were doing exactly what he wanted them to do.  mccarthy wanted him to stop them, trump refused.

I am looking forward to epp's trial so people can see that they were acting for trump and he refused to stop them for 3 hours, all the time watching it on tv.
 
 

Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2023, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 2:02 pm

                           
 
Just admit it, dck sucker. You CAN'T explain why you defend Epps - you just follow instructions, wee poodle. 

I could ask why you defend trump when all the ones arrested say they were acting on trump's instructions.

not epps;

jerrab » 17 Jul 2023, 2:19 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 2:19 pm

no one says they were operating on epp's instructions.

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https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/ ... 361411001/

“Many members of the mob that attacked Congress and the Capitol understood themselves to be doing exactly what Trump wanted and directed them to do – ‘fight like hell’ and do whatever was needed to ‘Stop the Steal,’” Michael Stokes Paulsen, a law professor at the University of St. Thomas and a conservative constitutional law scholar, said in an email to USA TODAY. “Trump's words and actions stand on their own, of course,” Paulsen said. “But the fact that they were understood by many as intended to produce precisely the actions that occurred tends to confirm Trump's responsibility.”

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I already said he is a scapegoat, being blamed in order to detract trump's guilt.

they all say it was what trump wanted them to do,

what is more trump did nothing to stop it while they were beating cops  for hours even ivanka tried to get him to stop them and he refused because they were doing exactly what he wanted them to do.  mccarthy wanted him to stop them, trump refused.

I am looking forward to epp's trial so people can see that they were acting for trump and he refused to stop them for 3 hours, all the time watching it on tv.

Why are YOU - a never trumping trumper hater - defending EPPS, who agitated for people to bum rush the capitol?

It makes no sense. You're an obvious *** who cannot keep his story straight. It simply cannot be that you would feel any reason to defend a trumper who agitated for violence. It is clear that you know full well he was a provocateur. Either that, or you are a literal parrot who is simply wound up and set loose. 
 

jerrab » 17 Jul 2023, 2:42 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 2:42 pm

I could ask why you defend trump when all the ones arrested say they were acting on trump's instructions.

not epps;

Link to me defending trump.

But since you ask, *** hat: I was there. To add my voice to those who wanted to stop the steal. 

I didn't go into the capitol. I didn't even walk over there. I watched Trump - whom I didnt even vote for, but who I believe won the stolen election overwhelmingly, - and then I retired to my well appointed digs and enjoyed a succlent chinese meal. 

It is my opinion - based on logic and copious evidence that includes video and testimony before congress - that the J6 "attempt to overthrow the government" was a false flag operation organized by the deep state.

Anyone retarded enough to believe that a gang of 2nd Amendment advocates tried to overthrow the government and - oopsie doopsie - forgot their **** GUNS is in need of electroshock therapy. 

That would be you, fruitcake. You're a candidate for electroshock. 

You're an idiot, fed on propaganda. And - inexplicably (though I can explicate it) - you have this ONE **** VIOLENCE-SPEWING TRUMPER that you feel some utterly irresistable compulsion to defend. That's really kooky, fruitcake. 
 
 

jerrab » 17 Jul 2023, 2:42 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 2:42 pm

I could ask why you defend trump when all the ones arrested say they were acting on trump's instructions.

not epps;

I would be interested in a video of Trump saying to go into the Capital. We have that with Ray. 

neueregel » 17 Jul 2023, 9:09 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 9:09 pm

I would be interested in a video of Trump saying to go into the Capital. We have that with Ray.

he said to go cheer the congressmen on. they would have to go inside to do that.

 

jerrab » 17 Jul 2023, 9:43 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 9:43 pm

he said to go cheer the congressmen on. they would have to go inside to do that.

No they wouldn't. Now yer claiming Trump used a secret message that actually meant go inside. 


Psst...hey jb. Did you believe and then repeat that Trump colluded with Russians?     

Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2023, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 1:06 pm

Thank you for sharing someone else's opinions with me - really do appreciate that. 

In your own well-considered, self-generated, cognitively consistent, principle-based words, explain why Trump is guilty for speech that you insist IMPLIED they should go into the capitol, and others are guilty for their mere PRESENCE on the mall, but epps is innocent for speech that SAID they should invade the capitol. 

Go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9QYJJS6pyA
 

jerrab » 17 Jul 2023, 9:43 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 9:43 pm

he said to go cheer the congressmen on. they would have to go inside to do that.

That's a stretch, to say the least. The evidence against Trump is truly flimsy.

roadkill » 19 Jul 2023, 8:19 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 8:19 am

No they wouldn't. Now yer claiming Trump used a secret message that actually meant go inside. 

Psst...hey jb. Did you believe and then repeat that Trump colluded with Russians?   

what code is cheer?  it is straight forward.

jerrab » 19 Jul 2023, 8:49 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 8:49 am

what code is cheer?  it is straight forward.

They could cheer from anywhere.


Now answer my question about Russian collusion.

roadkill » 19 Jul 2023, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 9:02 am

They could cheer from anywhere.

Now answer my question about Russian collusion.

yeah, they could cheer from alaska.
 

jerrab » 19 Jul 2023, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 12:37 pm

yeah, they could cheer from alaska.

You've answered my question about the Russian Collusion Hoax...thanx.      


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