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Z09 » 23 Jul 2023, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 11:31 am

That's what you posted....

GOP and an inside job

Your interpretations do not represent the truth ...........

Why did GW attack Iraq when in fact the 9/11/01 terrorists were Saudi Arabian?

Z09 » 23 Jul 2023, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 11:34 am

Because Saddam refused weapon inspections and we were told he had WMDs
Actually...Bush was told there were wmds

Who told Bush? 

Just for purposes of analysis, let us suppose we had unlimited numbers of US troops to deploy in Iraq. Would that change my assessment? In principle, if two or three million troops were deployed there with the latitude to annihilate all resistance without much attention to collateral civilian casualties and human rights, order might well be temporarily reestablished under a reign of US terror.

The problem we would then face is that we would be opposed not only by 26 million Iraqis but also by millions of Arabs and Iranians surrounding Iraq, peoples angered by our treatment of Muslims and Arabs. These outsiders are already involved to some degree in the internal war in Iraq, and any increase of US forces is likely to be exceeded by additional outside support for insurgents.

I never cease to be amazed at our military commanders' apparent belief that the "order of battle" of the opposition forces they face are limited to Iraq. I say "apparent" because those commanders may be constrained by the administration's policies from correcting this mistaken view.

Once the invasion began, Muslims in general and Arabs in particular could be expected to take sides against the United States. In other words, we went to war not just against the Iraqi forces and insurgent groups but also against a large part of the Arab world, scores and scores of millions. Most Arab governments, of course, are neutral or somewhat supportive, but their publics in growing numbers are against us.

It is a strategic error of monumental proportions to view the war as confined to Iraq.

Yet this is the implicit assumption on which the president's new strategy is based.

We have turned it into two wars that vastly exceed the borders of Iraq. First, there is the war against the US occupation that draws both sympathy and material support from other Arab countries.

Second, there is the Shi'ite-Sunni war, a sectarian conflict heretofore sublimated within the Arab world but that now has opened the door to Iranian influence in Iraq. In turn, it foreordains an expanding Iranian-Arab regional conflict.
 
https://apjjf.org/-William-E.-Odom/2335/article.html

Z09 » 23 Jul 2023, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 11:33 am

I asked those questions and they responded with "who cares"?

They complain they can't see clear footage of the plane hitting the Pentagon....
But at the same time there's no footage of a cruise missile headed to DC ?

            And every credible witness who in fact did see that American Airlines 757 strike the Pentagon are either mistaken, hallucinating, or liars.... 
 
           They have also have yet to explain how the team of over 100 personnel at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware where the remains of those on Flight 77 were brought for identification are also part of this cover-up, conspiracy and inside job..... Some of the Flight 77 Victims families were given enough of their loved one's corpses to have funerals & burials ... One such Victim whose remains were identified & given to her family for burial  was the well known Conservative Author & political pundit Barbara Olsen...  

              
 

Z09 » 23 Jul 2023, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 11:16 am

If Clinton had these terrorists under surveillence then why didn't he stop them?

You'll need to ask Bill......... perhaps the crime was not yet in the commencement stage...........

razoo » 23 Jul 2023, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 11:58 am

You'll need to ask Bill......... perhaps the crime was not yet in the commencement stage...........

Bill Clinton, God love him, is a cockhound piece of **** that could party harty with The Donald.

But Clinton said his greatest regret was not putting a cruise missile on Osama.  Too much chance of civilian casualties, too low of confidence.

 
 

Z09 » 23 Jul 2023, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 11:09 am

They see parts of the airplane...

To believe you then there's footage of someone towing a wrecked airplane to the Pentagon 10 minutes after the crash...

There is no footage of a wrecked plane ... that's the point mister

even the FBI link you provided didn't show more than a truckload of bits after a jumbo jet hit the pentagon 

Z09 » 23 Jul 2023, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 12:07 pm

Yes...
there's footage of a wrecked plane Harvard

where?

the FBI site you posted didn't have any

Mrkelly » 23 Jul 2023, 12:06 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 12:06 pm

There is no footage of a wrecked plane ... that's the point mister

even the FBI link you provided didn't show more than a truckload of bits after a jumbo jet hit the pentagon

The tail number was missing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_registration

Where did it go?

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-9 ... 8153051732

You can trace that plane from the day it left the factory until the morning of 9-11 when it vanished.

There were a bunch of fare paying passengers on board too, that left kinfolks.

WTC7 was an INFERNO...a raging all-consuming fire....not hit by a plane.


No building could have withstood this RAGING INFERNO           








 

Z09 » 23 Jul 2023, 12:12 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 12:12 pm

Here you go...

There's numerous photos of the plane
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-fbi ... light-77-1

paid site with the same couple of pictures that the FBI has on your link

keep showing the same lame **** ... it's what you do best dude

Z09 » 23 Jul 2023, 12:13 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 12:13 pm

so .. a jumbo jet was reduced to a 3 ft pile of rubbish 

were done

WASH DC and false flags are a match made in heaven.

Remember Bammy telling us that Assad was gassing his own people...

Bammy knew the US was full of CUCK CUCK CUCK A ROOSSSS

WASH DC is capable of anything...

any crime...any atrocity.

WASH DC will do anything to hold the Empire.

Even blow up an ally's pipeline that has sent

the ally into a recession. Act of war, act of terrorism.

We know WASH DC conducted a false flag

in Vietnam to get us further involved in that war

Sumela » 23 Jul 2023, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 12:16 pm

WASH DC and false flags are a match made in heaven.

Remember Bammy telling us that Assad was gassing his own people...

Bammy knew the US was full of CUCK CUCK CUCK A ROOSSSS

MAGAS don’t keep up with the real news very much:

—-Western military forces carried out air raids across western Syria in the predawn hours Saturday, obliterating Syrian government targets related to President Bashar Assad’s deadly chemical weapons program.
 The operation, which was fairly limited in its scope, opens a perilous new chapter in the Syrian civil war and risks dragging the U.S. further into the blood-soaked conflict, now in its eighth year.The military strikes carried out by warplanes and warships belonging to the U.S., France, and Britain also escalated diplomatic tensions with Russia and Iran, Assad’s largest allies, which later lashed out against what they deemed as unnecessary military aggression.

 President Donald Trump, speaking from the White House in a nationally televised address, announced he ordered “precision strikes” with U.S. allies as retaliation for the apparent April 7 chemical attack on the western Syrian town of Douma, in which dozens of civilians were killed.——

Now, if a typical MAGA could find the Sermon on the Mount, and while he can read, if he’d not cherry pink the Sermon, just read all of it, his first reaction would be Jesus Christ wasn’t a Cuck Jew Socialist so he’d try forgetting it.

But if he read and believed the Warren Commission Report old Trumpy’s clown act won’t have long to run.

https://www.govinfo.gov/features/warren ... d-hearings

But surveys have found Republicans love pretty girls, guns and Jesus in no particular order of preference.

So guess what the pretty young schoolteachers sing to the kiddies in third grade today?

Priceless. Little boys sit right straight up for her, no doubt.


https://youtu.be/_-txHiCtCIg

 

Bruce » 23 Jul 2023, 12:46 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 12:46 pm

MAGAS don’t keep up with the real news very much:

—-Western military forces carried out air raids across western Syria in the predawn hours Saturday, obliterating Syrian government targets related to President Bashar Assad’s deadly chemical weapons program.
 The operation, which was fairly limited in its scope, opens a perilous new chapter in the Syrian civil war and risks dragging the U.S. further into the blood-soaked conflict, now in its eighth year.The military strikes carried out by warplanes and warships belonging to the U.S., France, and Britain also escalated diplomatic tensions with Russia and Iran, Assad’s largest allies, which later lashed out against what they deemed as unnecessary military aggression.

 President Donald Trump, speaking from the White House in a nationally televised address, announced he ordered “precision strikes” with U.S. allies as retaliation for the apparent April 7 chemical attack on the western Syrian town of Douma, in which dozens of civilians were killed.——

Now, if a typical MAGA could find the Sermon on the Mount, and while he can read, if he’d not cherry pink the Sermon, just read all of it, his first reaction would be Jesus Christ wasn’t a Cuck Jew Socialist so he’d try forgetting it.

But if he read and believed the Warren Commission Report old Trumpy’s clown act won’t have long to run.

https://www.govinfo.gov/features/warren ... d-hearings

But surveys have found Republicans love pretty girls, guns and Jesus in no particular order of preference.

So guess what the pretty young schoolteachers sing to the kiddies in third grade today?

Priceless. Little boys sit right straight up for her, no doubt.

https://youtu.be/_-txHiCtCIg

Poor Bammy -Putin always kicked his dumb ***.

Bammy so wanted ISIS to take out Assad in Syria....FAIL

Bammy so wanted a *** base in Crimea...FAIL

             
 

The only thing Bammy was good at

was drone murdering

brown kids

Mrkelly » 23 Jul 2023, 12:08 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 12:08 pm

where?

the FBI site you posted didn't have any

       This is a photo of the Flight Data Recorder (aka Black Box) from the Boeing 757 which flew Flight 77 recovered at the Pentagon impact site.... It was found shortly after the crash by Emergency Medical & Rescue workers --- it was eventually used as a 9/11 Trial Exhibit.... 

        

         https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/terr ... gton_09-14Flight Data and Voice Recorders Found At PentagonWorld Sep 14, 2001 1:00 PM EDT

   The black boxes, considered crucial for those investigating the attack, were recovered at about 4 a.m. and are now being reviewed at a National Transportation Safety Board laboratory in Washington.

   Dick Bridges, a spokesman for Arlington County, Va. authorities, told the Associated Press the voice recorder was damaged on the outside and the flight data recorder was charred in fires that broke out following the crash. But he said the FBI was still confident data can be retrieved from both. Bridges said the recorders were found “right where the plane came into the building.”

 
 

Z09 » 23 Jul 2023, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 11:53 am

She was on the plane....
And I think she called her husband at the time....

Remarkable...
The deeper they go there's more and more people that are part of the conspiracy....

A cruise missile hit the Pentagon from "1000 miles away"....

And nobody saw it?

        This is from an interview with  Forensic Anthropologist Dr. Robert Mann who was brought from Hickam Air Base in Hawaii to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware as part of the team tasked with identifying the the deceased remains & body parts of the passengers & crew recovered from Flight 77 at the Pentagon.... He must be part of this massive conspiracy & cover-up as well...

      https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/390 ... on-attack/

   Hawaii scientist helped bring closure to families of victims of 9/11 Pentagon attack    HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - Five terrorists killed 184 people when they hijacked and crashed American Airlines flight 77 into the Pentagon on Sept.11, 2001.Forensic anthropologist Robert Mann dealt with the aftermath.
    "You never forget it and I don't want to go through it again," he said.Mann was working at the Central Identification Laboratory at Hickam Air Force Base when he and a small team of anthropologists were summoned to Dover Air Force Base, the site of a makeshift mortuary.

      "As soon as we get to the mortuary we can smell decomposition. We can smell jet fuel. It's like part of the Pentagon had been moved to Delaware," he said.For eight days, Mann and other scientists examined human remains from victims who could not be easily identified."We're dealing with body parts, fragments, a finger, a hand or arm, a foot, anything, anything that can come off the body," he said.He remembers seeing wedding rings on severed hands and watches on wrists, and tables covered with the victims' belongings.
       "You're looking at sweatshirts. There's prescription vials. There's melted phones. There's keys," he said.Mann and the other forensic anthropologists and identification experts who worked on the Pentagon site managed to identify all but five of the victims from the Pentagon and the airplane.

   Mann has worked on many cases.He identified serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer's first victim. He identified remains of U.S. soldiers killed in the Vietnam War, and remains of people who died in the 2004 Tsunami in the Indian Ocean.The Pentagon terror attack was different."You can't experience this, you can't do it without somehow being affected by it," he said.