9/11 was an inside job. Change my mind.

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By Vegas
22 Jul 2023 12:05 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Vegas » 22 Jul 2023, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑ I have started many threads about this...well, here is another one. 

Pentagon: Where is the **** plane? 
Building 7: What the **** caused that collapse? It wasn't hit. And building fires don't cause a straight down collapse...they just  burn.
Twin Towers: Engineers have repeatedly said that the impacts of the plane and jet fuel could not take down those towers, especially straight down like that. 
Amateur pilots: How the hell can 19 rag heads, with barely any flight experience, fly those gigantic planes with such precision?
They were receiving flight instructions and paying cash money for their instruction ........... odd thing about this instruction is they were not interested in landing only take off ....... 

Where was the GW Bush surveillance team? No where to be found. Clinton had these terrorists under surveillance then GW came along and provided no more funding. Inside job? You bet inside the Bush admin, 
Big brother knew of these nut jobs yet lost funding and they were living within walking distance of NSA headquarters yet still got away with this terrorist activity................. Inside job = the GOP
 
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razoo » 22 Jul 2023, 4:11 pm » wrote: ↑ They were receiving flight instructions and paying cash money for their instruction ........... odd thing about this instruction is they were not interested in landing only take off ....... 

Where was the GW Bush surveillance team? No where to be found. Clinton had these terrorists under surveillance then GW came along and provided no more funding. Inside job? You bet inside the Bush admin, 
Big brother knew of these nut jobs yet lost funding and they were living within walking distance of NSA headquarters yet still got away with this terrorist activity................. Inside job = the GOP

Of course I would expect you to blame the GOP. That's all you do. All of this had to have been planned under the Clinton admin. Duh. Bush was only president for 9 months. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Z09 » 22 Jul 2023, 4:16 pm » wrote: ↑ Clinton had these people under surveillance?

If so why didn't he remove them from the country over 8 years he was in office?

Watch. He will blame the GOP. He always blames the GOP for everything...and I mean everything. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Z09 » 22 Jul 2023, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑ One thing puzzled you that day?

Only one..?
Later on when the smaller tower (WTC 7) fell in where Rudy Gilliani was without ever being touched explained why the two towers collapsed.


Extreme heat.

It weakens the steel structural beams until Pop goes the Daisy.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 428919002/

By then my wife was smiling at Jack while he was mapping out the campaign to bomb the Muslims back into the Stone Age.:)
 
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obviously so many on here do not pay attention ..................

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Nov 13, 2015 — An exclusive look at how the Bush administration ignored warnings, including some that were far more detailed than previously revealed.
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Z09 » 22 Jul 2023, 4:43 pm » wrote: ↑ Razoo...
You said the GOP planned 911?

Show us
I did not say that you said that and you are lying .....


How 9/11 changed us - Washington Post
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https://www.washingtonpost.com › outlook › interactive
Sep 3, 2021 — Draper distills Bush's worldview: “The terrorists' primary objective was to destroy America's freedom. Saddam hated America. Therefore, he hated ...

The Pre-9/11 Warnings Bush's Team Ignored Were Way ...
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https://slate.com › news-and-politics › 2015/11 › geor...
Nov 13, 2015 — The threat warnings that George W. Bush's White House received—and reportedly brushed off—prior to the 9/11 terrorist attacks were more dire ...

After 9/11, the U.S. Got Almost Everything Wrong
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https://www.theatlantic.com › ideas › archive › 2021/09
Sep 8, 2021 — On the Friday after 9/11, President George W. Bush visited the New York City site that the world would come to know as Ground Zero.
 
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22 Jul 2023 6:44 pm
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Vegas » 22 Jul 2023, 4:04 pm » wrote: ↑ Here is my theory:

Planes have had autopilot technology for decades. Plug in the directional coordinates and a pilot literally doesn't even have to fly the plane. They just sit there and make sure all is good. Therefore, it is more plausible that there were no 19 rag headed hijackers. The planes were pre-programmed without the pilot's knowledge. The system was over-rid. Communication to the control tower was also cut off. The planes were locked on autopilot with the twin tower coordinates and wherever the third plane was supposed to go. Maybe the pilots heard what was happening and found a way to crash it. There was no fourth plane, that was a missile that hit the pentagon.

The twin towers falling was a demolition, as well as the other building that wasn't even hit.
OK Alex Jones, were the passengers that called home crisis actors? Were the pilots and air traffic control involved in the plot? Occums Razor, simplest answer is generally the correct answer.
 
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sootedupCyndi » 22 Jul 2023, 4:05 pm » wrote: ↑ OOOO that was the one! i was just trying to remember that!
Im not saying I know what happened.
BUT it looks exactly like a demolition of a building. Perfect free fall.  From just fire? :blink:  
 
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Just months before 911

The Project For A New American Century wrote:

We need a new Pearl Harbor moment.

Google it....very curious

TPNAC was conglomeration of D & R Neocons.
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Neo » 22 Jul 2023, 6:44 pm » wrote: ↑ OK Alex Jones, were the passengers that called home crisis actors? Were the pilots and air traffic control involved in the plot? Occums Razor, simplest answer is generally the correct answer.
WTC7 fell in full free fall...like a demolition. Not hit by a plane.
The Project For a New American Century wrote months before 911 (PFANAC a neocon ***)
""we need a new Pearl Harbor moment""


So, according to Ocuums Razor...seems at least plausible
 
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Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑ Im not saying I know what happened.
BUT it looks exactly like a demolition of a building. Perfect free fall.  From just fire? Image
In the history of true modern steel and glass buildings, until 9-11 none had suffered such intense fires.

You can comprise steel using your kitchen stove burners.  It really does not require all that much heat to get steel girders up over a thousand  degrees or so, and after a period they’ll snap.

When one snaps, they all snap, and the building pan cakes straight down.
 
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Bruce » 22 Jul 2023, 7:46 pm » wrote: ↑ In the history of true modern steel and glass buildings, until 9-11 none had suffered such intense fires.

You can comprise steel using your kitchen stove burners.  It really does not require all that much heat to get steel girders up over a thousand  degrees or so, and after a period they’ll snap.

When one snaps, they all snap, and the building pan cakes straight down.
It was a fire like 1000s of other fires....

wtc7 was not hit with a plane with jet fuel

sorry Sparky, you **** yer pants again :wave:  
 
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Vegas » 22 Jul 2023, 4:20 pm » wrote: ↑ Watch. He will blame the GOP. He always blames the GOP for everything...and I mean everything.
I get so tired of these **** people that pick a party to blame as if they know special information.

If the GOP did it, what is the benefit to the party?
What specific damage was caused to the Dems?
**** morons can't articulate a motive...

Likewise, a motive for the diaperheads wanting to attack us anyway possible.
That is way more plausible than "Republicans" for ****...

Deepstate/globalists/creepy-rich living above political ambitions.
Also, plausible as hell. Probably the most . . .
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Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 7:49 pm » wrote: ↑ It was a fire like 1000s of other fires....

wtc7 was not hit with a plane with jet fuel

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You saw WTC 7 fall

Five hours of raging fires compromised the steel.

Those fires started in WTC 7 because it was so close the the Twin Towers.

Until I understood that modern steel and glass buildings will pan cake straight down when any structural beam snaps, I agree that looked like a controlled demolition,



For proof, look at WTC 7.  Rudy Guallni had to be evacuated.  It was only heat, that took it down.
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Bruce » 22 Jul 2023, 7:58 pm » wrote: ↑ You saw WTC 7 fall

Five hours of raging fires compromised the steel.

Those fires started in WTC 7 because it was so close the the Twin Towers.

Until I understood that modern steel and glass buildings will pan cake straight down when any structural beam snaps, I agree that looked like a controlled demolition,

For proof, look at WTC 7.  Rudy Guallni had to be evacuated.  It was only heat, that took it down.
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22 Jul 2023 8:17 pm
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Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 7:46 pm » wrote: ↑ WTC7 fell in full free fall...like a demolition. Not hit by a plane.
The Project For a New American Century wrote months before 911 (PFANAC a neocon ***)
""we need a new Pearl Harbor moment""

So, according to Ocuums Razor...seems at least plausible
Catastrophic structure failure from a fire that burned for 8 hours. Buildings will fall into their own footprint unless there is resistance strong enough to resist gravity. 
 
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Neo » 22 Jul 2023, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑ Catastrophic structure failure from a fire that burned for 8 hours. Buildings will fall into their own footprint unless there is resistance strong enough to resist gravity.
Actually its highly unusual for that to happen.  
 
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Vegas » 22 Jul 2023, 4:04 pm » wrote: ↑ Here is my theory:

Planes have had autopilot technology for decades. Plug in the directional coordinates and a pilot literally doesn't even have to fly the plane. They just sit there and make sure all is good. Therefore, it is more plausible that there were no 19 rag headed hijackers. The planes were pre-programmed without the pilot's knowledge. The system was over-rid. Communication to the control tower was also cut off. The planes were locked on autopilot with the twin tower coordinates and wherever the third plane was supposed to go. Maybe the pilots heard what was happening and found a way to crash it. There was no fourth plane, that was a missile that hit the pentagon.

The twin towers falling was a demolition, as well as the other building that wasn't even hit.
   So, your theory is that American Airlines Boeing 757 Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon?.... Is it your theory that this Plane magically vanished instead of crashing into the Pentagon --- or that the Plane, it's Passengers & Crew simply never existed?... In either case can you explain how all but 4 of the charred sets of remains and body parts inside the Pentagon from Flight 77 were identified as the Passengers & Crew through DNA by samples provided from the victims families?.... The bodies of the 4 Hijackers were determined by process of elimination since no DNA samples were collected from their Family members.. I would be interested to hear your "theory" on this --- as I imagine so might some of the family members of those on Flight 77.. 

  Here's the Passenger & Crew List for Flight 77.... Keep in mind, one of the Passengers was the well known Conservative News Pundit & Author, who regularly appeared on FOX, CNN, C SPAN etc...  Barbara Olsen.... Her remains were also identified at the crash site through DNA... 
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Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 8:21 pm » wrote: ↑ Actually its highly unusual for that to happen.
For a building to topple it needs lateral force. Something like an earthquake or tsunami or a load bearing wall to remain standing. 
 
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