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9/11 was an inside job. Change my mind.
9/11 was an inside job. Change my mind.
By Vegas
22 Jul 2023 12:05 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
17 Aug 2023 11:10 am
I believe I told you before that's a lot of ****, 85 cameras and only one managed to capture one blurry frame.. lol.. it's the Pentagon, they have spy satellites that can read a number plate from space (even back in 2001) but they can't afford better security cameras than 480p at one frame a second.. lol.. and how come your site doesn't mention the camera almost right above the hole, was that looking the wrong direction too..Kobia2 » 16 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm » wrote: ↑ I have no idea, if you do please explain..... I have no idea what direction they were pointed at, and what they were to surveile, do you?.. I have no idea if it was a motion sensor High-Speed camera system, designed to capture Jets traveling 550 MPH at the building or not do you? --- I've heard you state YOU believe they did, so present you proof... Below is the Link to my source regarding the 85 Cameras at the Pentagon (and the 1 taken from the Gas station across the highway, their positioning, and capabilities
Oh, please.. I posted this a few times before but it's a perfectly reasonable question and somehow it's impossible to get a stright answer..What I do know is if such clear, high resolution pictures or video footage of American Airlines Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon existed and had been released to the public, it would have been denied or dismissed by the Inside-Jobbers / Conspiracy Theorists just like every other single piece of evidence has been... Here's what we most likely would be hearing from your side of the fence on this thread:
In memory of Pumpkins
17 Aug 2023 11:19 am
Well whatever you do, don't ask Z09. She wouldn't answer a question if her life depended on it.Jantje_Smit » 17 Aug 2023, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑
Oh, please.. I posted this a few times before but it's a perfectly reasonable question and somehow it's impossible to get a stright answer..
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
17 Aug 2023 11:54 am
Jantje_Smit » 17 Aug 2023, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑ So you have no answer but at the same time you seem to think that isn't a problem.. don't you find it even a little bit suspicious that there are no pictures when there are cameras clearly visible on top of the Pentagon looking out over the side where the (supposed) plane hit the building.. not to mention that (fake) FBI agents were there in minutes to confiscate the security tapes of buildings overlooking the Pentagon?
And you don't have tons of evidence.. lol.. that's another funny thing, the plane just went op in smoke.. literally..
Oh, and I don't think the earth is flat.. and birds are real.. most of them..
Do I find it suspicious that there are no pics? No. Curious? Sure.
And the plane did, literally, go up in smoke. After it burned up after impact. Most of it anyway. There are several pics of it that have been presented. That you don't believe they're real is a you problem.
17 Aug 2023 11:58 am
Rock » 17 Aug 2023, 11:54 am » wrote: ↑ Do I find it suspicious that there are no pics? No. Curious? Sure.
And the plane did, literally, go up in smoke. After it burned up after impact. Most of it anyway. There are several pics of it that have been presented. That you don't believe they're real is a you problem.
The pics presented doesn't show that they were from the pentagon. We are only told that they were. See the difference yet?
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
17 Aug 2023 3:45 pm
Vegas » 17 Aug 2023, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑ The pics presented doesn't show that they were from the pentagon. We are only told that they were. See the difference yet?
And if you were shown pics that were certified 100% to be from the Pentagon you still would say they were fake. Why do I say that? Because every bit of evidence shown by Kobia has been poo pooed by you. So what are we supposed to do?
17 Aug 2023 3:50 pm
Rock » 17 Aug 2023, 3:45 pm » wrote: ↑ And if you were shown pics that were certified 100% to be from the Pentagon you still would say they were fake. Why do I say that? Because every bit of evidence shown by Kobia has been poo pooed by you. So what are we supposed to do?
No, I wouldn't.
Every pic Kobia has shown me hasn't been shown to come from the pentagon. It has only been "said" to come from the pentagon. This isn't a hard concept to understand. Do you need me to get the crayons out?
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
17 Aug 2023 4:29 pm
Z09 » 17 Aug 2023, 4:15 pm » wrote: ↑ It might be easier for you to show us evidence it was a missile
It would even be easier to show us the evidence that these plane pieces came from the pentagon, rather than just 'hearing' that they did.
Good luck.
Prediction
Testimonies of witnesses in 3...2...1....
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
17 Aug 2023 8:26 pm
Nope. Just like your claims that the pictures you've been shown were misrepresented.Vegas » 15 Aug 2023, 8:54 am » wrote: ↑ Hitting mountains and taking nose dives doesn't validate my claims? Okay.
17 Aug 2023 9:35 pm
I told you before I didn't know with 100% certainty (and neither do you), that's your answer... The information I researched and sourced was the best answer I could find regarding placement and type of cameras which were in use at the Pentagon on 9/11 2001....Jantje_Smit » 17 Aug 2023, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑ I believe I told you before that's a lot of ****, 85 cameras and only one managed to capture one blurry frame.. lol.. it's the Pentagon, they have spy satellites that can read a number plate from space (even back in 2001) but they can't afford better security cameras than 480p at one frame a second.. lol.. and how come your site doesn't mention the camera almost right above the hole, was that looking the wrong direction too..
Oh, please.. I posted this a few times before but it's a perfectly reasonable question and somehow it's impossible to get a stright answer..
If you believe the Pentagon was equipped with different cameras as part of their surveillance system, then that information should be out there for you to find and share with the rest of us... I would be fine with that, and imagine you could find a credible counter-source to support your assertions ... Apparently you believe the Building would have been equipped with HIgh-Altitude Aerial Reconnaissance cameras mounted to its exterior walls, similar to those designed & used by our U2 or SR-71 spy planes that can read 'License Plates" from space... Crying "****" is not an argument, nor is it a substitute for the time spent doing some of your own research...
17 Aug 2023 10:14 pm
I'm just making sure I'm understanding you here regarding the the Victims of Flight 77 --- which you assert were murdered by entities within our Government.... You are saying there were no remains of the Passengers & Crew of Flight 77 at any time at / or recovered from the Pentagon.?Vegas » 17 Aug 2023, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑ 1. Like I said, no remains were found. There was said to be remains from the pentagon. That's a narrative. It's not hard to say that. Keep in mind that it's not difficult to believe that experts, and any other 'trusted authority' to lie. It's sad, yes. However, it's not unreasonable to believe that. For example, look at all the scientists, researchers, and officials who have kept the global warming and Covid hoax alive? 97% of scientists believe that humans are the cause of global warming, etc...Why would 97% of Phd scientists lie? Well...they did lie, and they still are lying.
2. I think America has done this sort of thing many times already, prior to 9/11, and after. It's just usually done to other countries and we don't hear about it.
3. See number 1.
4. See number 1.
Yesterday you acknowledged the Passengers & Crew of Flight 77 were actually real people who existed --- that boarded American Airlines Flight 77, but whom perished when their Plane was shot down over the Atlantic Ocean.... Are you stating those who perished on Flight 77 were never retrieved from the Depths, and were never brought to Dover Air Base for identification? There were over 100 Members of the Forensic Anthropologist team at Dover, who handled these fuel reeking & charred corpses, body parts, and pieces of bone & flesh --- which they used to identify through DNA, from sample collected from family members of the victims.. For your narrative to be true, all involved in the handling & identification of these remains at Dover Air Base are also co-conspirators, complicit in the cover-up of these people's murders by our Government...
2. Al Qaida has also done this sort of thing to us many times ----- Riyadh military training facility in Saudi Arabia killing 5 US Servicemen, injuring 60 others... Khobar Towers Saudi Arabia killing 19 US Servicemen & injuring over 400... The bombings of US Embassies in Kenya & Tanzania killing 224 and injuring 5000... The USS Cole bombing killing 19 American Sailors...
Let's not forget the first World Trade Center attack of 1993 killing 6 Americans and wounded 1000.... It really should be difficult to fathom a terrorist organization attacking a target they had previously targeted, and vowed they would attack again..
18 Aug 2023 4:21 am
lol.. ok, I guess I can't argue with that, there should be pictures but there arent', nothing suspicious about that, just take the government's word for it, did they ever lie to you before?Rock » 17 Aug 2023, 11:54 am » wrote: ↑ Do I find it suspicious that there are no pics? No. Curious? Sure.
Oh, I believe the pictures are real, it's what's not on the pictures that is the problem..And the plane did, literally, go up in smoke. After it burned up after impact. Most of it anyway. There are several pics of it that have been presented. That you don't believe they're real is a you problem.
Planes don't just go up in smoke, especially not the engines, I could ask you if you don't find that a bit suspicious but let's not go there..
In memory of Pumpkins
18 Aug 2023 4:30 am
Jantje_Smit » 18 Aug 2023, 4:21 am » wrote: ↑ lol.. ok, I guess I can't argue with that, there should be pictures but there arent', nothing suspicious about that, just take the government's word for it, did they ever lie to you before?
Oh, I believe the pictures are real, it's what's not on the pictures that is the problem..
Planes don't just go up in smoke, especially not the engines, I could ask you if you don't find that a bit suspicious but let's not go there..
18 Aug 2023 4:57 am
Actually, you didn't.. I could tell you to click back a few posts but you would just ignore that.. you will ignore this too of course but it's just fun to point it out..Z09 » 17 Aug 2023, 12:11 pm » wrote: ↑ Actually..
I was asking Vegas...
You already stated the plane was crashed into the ocean or went to Area 51....
In memory of Pumpkins
18 Aug 2023 5:38 am
I'm not crying ****, I explained why it is ****, I showed you pictures of the cameras on top of the Pentagon on the side where the plane (cruise missile) hit, there is simply no way there couldn't be any pictures.. your 'research' site ignores that fact too.. I still haven't heard a credible explanation for that..Kobia2 » 17 Aug 2023, 9:35 pm » wrote: ↑ I told you before I didn't know with 100% certainty (and neither do you), that's your answer... The information I researched and sourced was the best answer I could find regarding placement and type of cameras which were in use at the Pentagon on 9/11 2001....
If you believe the Pentagon was equipped with different cameras as part of their surveillance system, then that information should be out there for you to find and share with the rest of us... I would be fine with that, and imagine you could find a credible counter-source to support your assertions ... Apparently you believe the Building would have been equipped with HIgh-Altitude Aerial Reconnaissance cameras mounted to its exterior walls, similar to those designed & used by our U2 or SR-71 spy planes that can read 'License Plates" from space... Crying "****" is not an argument, nor is it a substitute for the time spent doing some of your own research...
In memory of Pumpkins
18 Aug 2023 6:00 am
This what a jet engine looks like after a crash, can you spot the differences?
In memory of Pumpkins
18 Aug 2023 6:16 am
I found this one for Rock, funny how the engine size seems to match that engine part they found at the Pentagon..Z09 » 18 Aug 2023, 5:51 am » wrote: ↑ Any witnesses, photos or debris saying it was a missile?
You say the missile was fired off from a military base.
And no one noticed?
Seriously?
In memory of Pumpkins
18 Aug 2023 7:05 am
I get the feeling we have been here before..Z09 » 18 Aug 2023, 6:21 am » wrote: ↑ Simple..
Do you have any evidence it was a missile?
Anything?
Debris
Footage
Reports of a missile being shot off
Witnesses
You stated the missile was shot off from a 1000 miles away...
That would mean a cruise missile was shot off before any hijackings.
And no one noticed a cruise missile for 2 hours??
Norad?
How about Air Traffic Controllers?
Maybe someone just walking their dog?
There's no evidence of any cruise missile.
Period
Jantje_Smit » 17 Aug 2023, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑ So tell me..
Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over again when I already told you a few times?
In memory of Pumpkins
18 Aug 2023 7:12 am
18 Aug 2023 8:44 am
There are the missing pictures and the missing plane wreckage and something clearly made a big hole in the Pentagon, it wasn't a plane so a cruise missile is the logical option, that's what fits the (suspiciously missing) evidence, a plane doesn't..Z09 » 18 Aug 2023, 8:01 am » wrote: ↑ And you still have zero evidence of any cruise missile
Nothing!
Remote controlled airplanes...
Area 51
Now that's funny
I don't have to prove a cruise missile hit the Pentagon, that's not how conspiracy theories work, I only have to make a good case for it, if I could prove it that would make it a conspiracy fact.. you on the other hand, claim that it is a fact a plane hit the Pentagon so you're the one that has to come up with evidence.. or come up with a credible explanation why it is lacking...
In memory of Pumpkins
18 Aug 2023 8:44 am
Again, as I stated before, this is no longer the good old days where experts, scientists, and researchers could be taken seriously and carried serious weight. It's sad, but they have proven to sell out before. I gave examples of that already, such as the 97% scientists on climate change, the docs regarding the Covid hoax, and now even docto0rs justifying genital mutilation of kids. You continue to say 100s of forensic anthropologists, and other scientists, etc...Given that scientists have proven to sell out, I can't take that seriously.Kobia2 » 17 Aug 2023, 10:14 pm » wrote: ↑
Yesterday you acknowledged the Passengers & Crew of Flight 77 were actually real people who existed --- that boarded American Airlines Flight 77, but whom perished when their Plane was shot down over the Atlantic Ocean.... Are you stating those who perished on Flight 77 were never retrieved from the Depths, and were never brought to Dover Air Base for identification? There were over 100 Members of the Forensic Anthropologist team at Dover, who handled these fuel reeking & charred corpses, body parts, and pieces of bone & flesh --- which they used to identify through DNA, from sample collected from family members of the victims.. For your narrative to be true, all involved in the handling & identification of these remains at Dover Air Base are also co-conspirators, complicit in the cover-up of these people's murders by our Government...
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
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