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Z09 » 23 Jul 2023, 11:05 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2023, 11:05 am

Remote controlled 727?

I already posted the evidence, watch that, from 36:00..

The planes were hijacked and there's footage of terrorists getting on the plane...

lol.. there is footage of what you are told are terrorists getting on the plane.. another fun fact, some of those 19 hijackers turned out to be alive and well later..

And now you think a cruise missile hit the Pentagon...
And somehow that was undetected?
And that was covered up?

Nah, I already thought that 20 years ago..

And if know plane hit the Pentagon where did the plane go?

Another who the **** cares, the deep state is good at making things disappear, maybe they dumped it in the ocean, maybe it went to area 51..

"Gee..I don't know"  doesn't help your argument...

Just asking stoopid questions doesn't help your argument.. not that you have one.. how about you answering a simple question for a change.. where are the **** pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon?????


 
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Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 5:20 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 5:20 am

So now you're saying that there wasn't a plane that crashed into the Pentagon and the plan was diverted to Area 51?

Do YOU have footage?

Are you familiar with the concept of irony?

And the terrorists on those planes that day are still alive?
Got a link?

Thanks!

I had plenty of links but I lost them a few computers ago, maybe I could google that one again but I'm not going to bother until you answer some questions in return... the most important one... where are the **** pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon?????


 
 
 
 
 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 5:30 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 5:30 am

Another point...
They removed dead bodies from the crash site and identified them as passengers on the plane.

Who is "they"?

And yes, the next question would be if there are any pictures of the 'removing'

 

 
 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 6:16 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 6:16 am

And you say it was a missile?
Where's the video?
Where was it shot from? 

Damn.. lol... I guess that answers the question..

I know you don't realize it but the only thing you do is prove me right..


 
https://youtu.be/0SL2PzzOiF8
 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 6:16 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 6:16 am

Your complaint is there's not a clear video of the plane hitting the building....
But the evidence is overwhelming that...

Planes were hijacked
Planes were flown into buildings
Bodies were recovered that matched passenger lists...
And these people have never been heard from again

And you say it was a missile?
Where's the video?
Where was it shot from?
Where did the plane go and what happened to the crew and passengers?
Why did everyone lie about bodies and plane wreckage?

And how did they keep all these people quiet over the last 20 years?

Not to mention the plane did not turn off its transponder.  Thousands of faa controllers watched the plane make it's way to the pentagon. A cruise missile at some point in the flight replaced the 747 and the 747 turned its transponder off? Plane was landed elsewhere in secret, all aboard murdered? Not plausible. 
 

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Neo » 24 Jul 2023, 7:05 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 7:05 am

Not to mention the plane did not turn off its transponder.  Thousands of faa controllers watched the plane make it's way to the pentagon. A cruise missile at some point in the flight replaced the 747 and the 747 turned its transponder off? Plane was landed elsewhere in secret, all aboard murdered? Not plausible.
 

They didn't watch the plane make it's way to the Pentagon, they watched a transponder signal on their screen make it's way to the Pentagon.. you don't think it's plausible to fake that but you think it's plausible that there are no pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon, not to mention the wreckage, it's probably the most surveillanced building in the world ffs, hundreds of cameras everywhere.. doesn't that make you wonder even a tiny bit?

 
 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 7:36 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 7:36 am

Then suppose you answer all the other questions...

Where did the plane go?
Where did this missile come from?

You can't fly a small plane around DC without being stopped and suddenly a cruise missile comes from where?

And  how can all these people be lying?

I already answered your questions, then why can't I suppose that you should answer a resonable question from me first?

You claim a plane hit the Pentagon, how hard can it be to prove that... oh, another one of those funny things I forgot about.. now why would the FBI need to confiscate that footage.. maybe because there was something on it that they wouldn't want people to see... like a clear picture of a cruise missile..

 

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Jantje_Smit » 24 Jul 2023, 7:34 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 7:34 am

They didn't watch the plane make it's way to the Pentagon, they watched a transponder signal on their screen make it's way to the Pentagon.. you don't think it's plausible to fake that but you think it's plausible that there are no pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon, not to mention the wreckage, it's probably the most surveillanced building in the world ffs, hundreds of cameras everywhere.. doesn't that make you wonder even a tiny bit?

Correct, they watched the transponder signal take off from the airport, fly towards its destination, change course, and hit the pentagon. Thousands witnessed this in real time. Tens of thousands of aviation experts watched it on computer forensic replay. 

Yes a cruise missile with a transponder could do the same. At what point was the plane seamlessly swapped with a missile? 
 

Neo » 24 Jul 2023, 7:05 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 7:05 am

Not to mention the plane did not turn off its transponder.  Thousands of faa controllers watched the plane make it's way to the pentagon. A cruise missile at some point in the flight replaced the 747 and the 747 turned its transponder off? Plane was landed elsewhere in secret, all aboard murdered? Not plausible.

            
  
  And immediately after the Missile that replaced the Boeing 757 Flight 77 in mid-flight struck the Pentagon ---- 

1. All the Missile debris was simultaneously removed from the impact site, as debris from an American Airlines Boeing 757 including Flight 77's Flight Recorder / Black Box was swapped out in its place... 

2. The charred remains and body parts of the passengers & crew from Flight 77 who were murdered at that secret location elsewhere, were teleported from such site and into the crash scene at the Pentagon... 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 8:52 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 8:52 am

It might be easier of you gave us a list of people that weren't involved in the Pentagon cover up...

As of right now you have hundreds of people that helped carry out your theory

kinda like the list of people that want to get tRump

thats not possible is it?

how do so many people keep a secret like that?

Neo » 24 Jul 2023, 8:39 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 8:39 am

Correct, they watched the transponder signal take off from the airport, fly towards its destination, change course, and hit the pentagon. Thousands witnessed this in real time. Tens of thousands of aviation experts watched it on computer forensic replay. 

Yes a cruise missile with a transponder could do the same. At what point was the plane seamlessly swapped with a missile?

Who cares, that's like asking what the shooter on the grassy knoll had for breakfast...

All I'm asking for is an explanation why there aren't any pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon... it's a reasonable question but somehow no one seems to be able to answer it... well, no one that takes the official story as gospel that is..


 
 

WASH DC still does

acts of terrorism....nothing new.

WASH DC is capable of any act of terrorism or atrocity.

Anything to try and save the crumbling empire.....

USA!
USA!
USA!










 
 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 8:47 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 8:47 am

So now the FBI is part of the coverup as well...! 

They identified themselves as FBI, that doesn't mean they were... but they were there five minutes after the attack to get the tapes, like they were waiting for it.. a bit suspicious, wouldn't you agree...

Again...
Where did the original plane go and where did all the passengers end up? 

I don't know..or care.. where the plane went but the passengers ended up in the morgue.. found those pictures of them being removed from the Pentagon yet?

The FBI confiscated film at Dealey Plaza as well..
Doesn't mean they murdered anyone...

Nah, Kennedy was murdered by the CIA, not the FBI..

You have no answer do you?

You don't do irony, do you?

 


 



 
 
 

Jantje_Smit » 24 Jul 2023, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 9:00 am

Who cares, that's like asking what the shooter on the grassy knoll had for breakfast...

All I'm asking for is an explanation why there aren't any pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon... it's a reasonable question but somehow no one seems to be able to answer it... well, no one that takes the official story as gospel that is..

The plane hit the building at cruising speed. 500 mph. Lights were knocked down on the planes path to the building. That would take pretty large wings for a cruise missile. I haven't seen pictures showing the intact plane prior to hitting the building. I have seen enough evidence that it was a passenger jet rather than a missile. Knocked down parking lights, aluminum debris scattered across the lawn. I guess a 747 shaped cruise missile could be responsible, or perhaps they knocked the parking lot lights over with choreographed controlled demolitions? 

Jantje_Smit » 24 Jul 2023, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 9:00 am

Who cares, that's like asking what the shooter on the grassy knoll had for breakfast...

All I'm asking for is an explanation why there aren't any pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon... it's a reasonable question but somehow no one seems to be able to answer it... well, no one that takes the official story as gospel that is..

I mean it is the Pentagon,

where I assume are HUNDREDS of security cameras....

your question is fair.


 

True actual Conservatives should always question everything the govt says/does.

I mean we were founded on the idea that govt breeds corruption.

More and More though, cons just THROAT the establishment...so weird

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 9:50 am

If the question is fair he should produce a video showing a missile hitting the building....

not a video that "they" would want to share