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9/11 was an inside job. Change my mind.
9/11 was an inside job. Change my mind.
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22 Jul 2023 12:05 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
24 Jul 2023 8:53 am
Neo » 24 Jul 2023, 7:05 am » wrote: ↑ Not to mention the plane did not turn off its transponder. Thousands of faa controllers watched the plane make it's way to the pentagon. A cruise missile at some point in the flight replaced the 747 and the 747 turned its transponder off? Plane was landed elsewhere in secret, all aboard murdered? Not plausible.
And immediately after the Missile that replaced the Boeing 757 Flight 77 in mid-flight struck the Pentagon ----
1. All the Missile debris was simultaneously removed from the impact site, as debris from an American Airlines Boeing 757 including Flight 77's Flight Recorder / Black Box was swapped out in its place...
2. The charred remains and body parts of the passengers & crew from Flight 77 who were murdered at that secret location elsewhere, were teleported from such site and into the crash scene at the Pentagon...
24 Jul 2023 8:56 am
kinda like the list of people that want to get tRumpZ09 » 24 Jul 2023, 8:52 am » wrote: ↑ It might be easier of you gave us a list of people that weren't involved in the Pentagon cover up...
As of right now you have hundreds of people that helped carry out your theory
thats not possible is it?
how do so many people keep a secret like that?
24 Jul 2023 9:00 am
Who cares, that's like asking what the shooter on the grassy knoll had for breakfast...Neo » 24 Jul 2023, 8:39 am » wrote: ↑ Correct, they watched the transponder signal take off from the airport, fly towards its destination, change course, and hit the pentagon. Thousands witnessed this in real time. Tens of thousands of aviation experts watched it on computer forensic replay.
Yes a cruise missile with a transponder could do the same. At what point was the plane seamlessly swapped with a missile?
All I'm asking for is an explanation why there aren't any pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon... it's a reasonable question but somehow no one seems to be able to answer it... well, no one that takes the official story as gospel that is..
In memory of Pumpkins
24 Jul 2023 9:00 am
24 Jul 2023 9:01 am
WASH DC is capable of any act of terrorism or atrocity.
Anything to try and save the crumbling empire.....
Anything to try and save the crumbling empire.....
24 Jul 2023 9:02 am
24 Jul 2023 9:31 am
They identified themselves as FBI, that doesn't mean they were... but they were there five minutes after the attack to get the tapes, like they were waiting for it.. a bit suspicious, wouldn't you agree...
I don't know..or care.. where the plane went but the passengers ended up in the morgue.. found those pictures of them being removed from the Pentagon yet?Again...
Where did the original plane go and where did all the passengers end up?
Nah, Kennedy was murdered by the CIA, not the FBI..The FBI confiscated film at Dealey Plaza as well..
Doesn't mean they murdered anyone...
You don't do irony, do you?You have no answer do you?
In memory of Pumpkins
24 Jul 2023 9:40 am
The plane hit the building at cruising speed. 500 mph. Lights were knocked down on the planes path to the building. That would take pretty large wings for a cruise missile. I haven't seen pictures showing the intact plane prior to hitting the building. I have seen enough evidence that it was a passenger jet rather than a missile. Knocked down parking lights, aluminum debris scattered across the lawn. I guess a 747 shaped cruise missile could be responsible, or perhaps they knocked the parking lot lights over with choreographed controlled demolitions?Jantje_Smit » 24 Jul 2023, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑ Who cares, that's like asking what the shooter on the grassy knoll had for breakfast...
All I'm asking for is an explanation why there aren't any pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon... it's a reasonable question but somehow no one seems to be able to answer it... well, no one that takes the official story as gospel that is..
24 Jul 2023 9:47 am
I mean it is the Pentagon,Jantje_Smit » 24 Jul 2023, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑ Who cares, that's like asking what the shooter on the grassy knoll had for breakfast...
All I'm asking for is an explanation why there aren't any pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon... it's a reasonable question but somehow no one seems to be able to answer it... well, no one that takes the official story as gospel that is..
where I assume are HUNDREDS of security cameras....
your question is fair.
24 Jul 2023 9:49 am
True actual Conservatives should always question everything the govt says/does.
I mean we were founded on the idea that govt breeds corruption.
More and More though, cons just THROAT the establishment...so weird
I mean we were founded on the idea that govt breeds corruption.
More and More though, cons just THROAT the establishment...so weird
24 Jul 2023 9:51 am
not a video that "they" would want to shareZ09 » 24 Jul 2023, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑ If the question is fair he should produce a video showing a missile hitting the building....
24 Jul 2023 9:53 am
911 as a false flag is far outside of the competency or capabilities of our government. They can kill a sex trafficker with dirt on political elites while he was in prison. They can make revenge for leaking documents to wikileaks look like a botched robbery. They cannot fake a terrorist attack involving 4 hijacked jetliners with literally billions of real time witnesses.Sumela » 24 Jul 2023, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑ True actual Conservatives should always question everything the govt says/does.
I mean we were founded on the idea that govt breeds corruption.
More and More though, cons just THROAT the establishment...so weird
24 Jul 2023 9:58 am
[img]blob:b4e0e82f-d7b5-4c42-a236-5b1e4c804615[/img]Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑ Why not?
And why would they LIE about a plane hitting the building?
What purpose ?
And like I've asked before...
Where did the plane go?
no answer?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECoWG3eUYAIUNwS.jpg
24 Jul 2023 10:04 am
The hijacking was not planned in DC, why would you claim it was?Z09 » 22 Jul 2023, 4:23 pm » wrote: ↑ So Razoo...
Suppose you tell us how you plan a mass hijacking and keep it secret in a town like DC?
24 Jul 2023 10:10 am
No way a boeing 727 does 500mph an hour at ground level, a cruise missile could though.. but that doesn't really matter.. that's another thing, those knocked down lamp posts... got any pictures of that, they seem to be perfectly fine from what I can see?Neo » 24 Jul 2023, 9:40 am » wrote: ↑ The plane hit the building at cruising speed. 500 mph. Lights were knocked down on the planes path to the building. That would take pretty large wings for a cruise missile. I haven't seen pictures showing the intact plane prior to hitting the building. I have seen enough evidence that it was a passenger jet rather than a missile. Knocked down parking lights, aluminum debris scattered across the lawn. I guess a 747 shaped cruise missile could be responsible, or perhaps they knocked the parking lot lights over with choreographed controlled demolitions?
In memory of Pumpkins
24 Jul 2023 10:13 am
It does seem a daunting task. So is blowing an underwater pipeline that belongs to an allyNeo » 24 Jul 2023, 9:53 am » wrote: ↑ 911 as a false flag is far outside of the competency or capabilities of our government. They can kill a sex trafficker with dirt on political elites while he was in prison. They can make revenge for leaking documents to wikileaks look like a botched robbery. They cannot fake a terrorist attack involving 4 hijacked jetliners with literally billions of real time witnesses.
But I do not believe the govt story - there is more to the story.
Its possible they knew and just allowed to unfold. """PEARL HARBOR MOMENT"""
24 Jul 2023 10:19 am
Skans » 23 Jul 2023, 9:20 am » wrote: ↑ Read the 911 Commission Report. I did. It explains in great detail how the towers were destroyed. In great detail. Did I leave out "great detail". Read it. So show me how your generic "Engineers" refute the details of the Report, and only then will I be willing to further the discussion. BTW, "refuting" does not mean putting forth some alternate-universe scenario and completely ignoring what was investigated and reported. I have seen no such valid alternative report which debunks the 911 Commission report, without resorting to alternative-universe wack-job theories.
Yeah, I'm familiar with the claim that some Israelis were seen in the vicinity of the 911 attacks. Why was this not in the 911 Commission Report? Actually, it is. It is mentioned in the footnotes to Chapter 5 of the Report, but details were left out. It eventually was discovered and reported in the news. https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1. Nothing shows that the Israelis were doing anything other than observing what happened. I do believe, however, that they had advanced knowledge that "something" was going to take place that day. Did Israeli authorities report this to any American agency? No one knows. Because, this information is classified. Again, IMHO, nothing should be classified - the American people have a right to know.
https://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf
https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1
FYI, in the 911 report, they name in detail names of people involved in making the report. In your OP, you mention no names at all. Just generic "Engineers".
I actually did read it. It was incomplete. The "great detail" is incomplete. It's not hard to take a few pieces of a puzzle, then go into "great detail" about those few pieces, and present it as he whole picture. I am referring to these guys: https://www.c-span.org/video/?320748-5/ ... -911-truth#
It's a group of 2200 architects and engineers who have all concluded that it was a controlled demolition.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
24 Jul 2023 10:20 am
I may be wrong, but I don't think there is a video of anything, which is quite odd.Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑ If the question is fair he should produce a video showing a missile hitting the building....
24 Jul 2023 10:25 am
So many questions. I had a theory that the planes were simply put on autopilot. That tech has been around for decades. There were probably passengers and pilots. However, the pilots were not in on it. They had no idea. The pilots flew the planes, as usual, then were locked out of their system, and cut off from the control tower. The system was hacked. The pilots had no idea what was happening. The plane that went down in the field was after the towers were hit. The pilots found out what was going on, through cell phone communication, so maybe they found a way to take it crash it in a area that wasn't close to residents.Jantje_Smit » 23 Jul 2023, 4:02 am » wrote: ↑ I don't want to change your mind.. lol.. I totally agree..
The Pentagon is the most obvious but there are so many other questions, it was long time ago, I lost all the stuff I had on that a few computers ago but I still remember some things..
Like the guy that leased the WTC buying terrorism insurance just a few weeks before 9/11...
Did I mention he was jewish (Silverstein) and that no joos died in the towers because it was a jewish holiday.. and there was the video of the dancing joos, celebrating with the burning towers in the background..
The undamaged passports of the hijackers found on the street.. lol.. that was a nice touch..
Then there was the gold in the vault of the WTC that disappeared without a trace
The debris of the WTC that was shipped of to China in a hurry so it couldn't be analyzed for traces of explosives
The hole in the ground in Pensylvania that looked nothing like a plane crash..
Etc. etc. etc..
I don't have all the links anymore but I still have this one, I forgot what it was about, stock trades and coverups I think, I have to watch that again myself but there should be some good stuff in it, I must have saved it for a reason..
Edit: oh, I remember now, from 36:00, that was why I saved it.. the planes were remote controlled and they weren't passenger planes..
https://youtu.be/n_fp5kaVYhk
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
24 Jul 2023 10:29 am
My question is simple. Very simple. If you can answer it, then I will retract.Kobia2 » 22 Jul 2023, 8:45 pm » wrote: ↑ So, your theory is that American Airlines Boeing 757 Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon?.... Is it your theory that this Plane magically vanished instead of crashing into the Pentagon --- or that the Plane, it's Passengers & Crew simply never existed?... In either case can you explain how all but 4 of the charred sets of remains and body parts inside the Pentagon from Flight 77 were identified as the Passengers & Crew through DNA by samples provided from the victims families?.... The bodies of the 4 Hijackers were determined by process of elimination since no DNA samples were collected from their Family members.. I would be interested to hear your "theory" on this --- as I imagine so might some of the family members of those on Flight 77..
Here's the Passenger & Crew List for Flight 77.... Keep in mind, one of the Passengers was the well known Conservative News Pundit & Author, who regularly appeared on FOX, CNN, C SPAN etc... Barbara Olsen.... Her remains were also identified at the crash site through DNA...
https://archive.boston.com/news/package ... ight77.htm
Question: Where is the **** plane?
Those pics that you see of plane parts were taken a couple days after the explosion. Look at the footage on that day. Where is the **** plane?
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
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