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Neo » 22 Jul 2023, 6:44 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 6:44 pm

OK Alex Jones, were the passengers that called home crisis actors? Were the pilots and air traffic control involved in the plot? Occums Razor, simplest answer is generally the correct answer.

I literally just answered that in what you quoted me on. Go back and reread it, then come get me. I am not going to repeat it because you didn't feel like reading it all. 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 10:19 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 10:19 am

Seriously?

 


 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 10:30 am

A group of terrorists hijacked numerous planes and flew them into buildings.

Not that complicated.

How could our government have videos of these terrorists getting on the planes that day if they had nothing to do with it...?

There's one guy here that says the terrorists are still alive.....
However, when asked for a link to such a crazy claim he can't produce anything...

911 went down just about as it was planned....
By Muslim terrorists...
Not by our government or any deep state...

There were no terrorists. **** box cutters? Seriously? No. There were no 19 hijackers. Tell me which theory seems more plausible:

Theory A: The pilots and passengers load the plane like any other day. They take off like any other day. Nothing unusual, it happens everyday. When in the air, the autopilot tech gets hacked. Autopilot tech can be pre-programmed. Once hacked, the pilots are locked out and are cut off from ground control. The autopilot tech had the coordinates programmed already. The pilots were helpless. No ability to control the plane nor communicate. The planes flew into the buildings. 

Theory B:   19  ragheads with box cutters, who were amateur pilots that barely had any flight time, were mostly trained on simulations, had the expertise to fly 747s with precision, into the twin towers causing the towers to collapse exactly like a demolition, not to mention magically making another building collapse, like a demolition, that they never hit. 



 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 10:39 am

Check the photos of FLT 93 that crashed in a field...

I am referring to the pentagon one. 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 10:50 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 10:50 am

I know you are...
My point is planes disinegrate on impact many times....

I think people expected to see a plane in pieces but that's not necessary true....

No they don't. The one in the field never disintegrated. It was easy to see the plane. Yes, in pieces, but it was obvious that there was a plane there. 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 10:41 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 10:41 am

Flight 93....

Gee...
I don't see any plane...

Must have been a lie huh?

Wait a minute...you got me thinking. I could have sworn I recalled seeing the plane before. Now I can't find it, at least not the one I was thinking about. There still pieces of planes in a crash. Just Google 747 crashes and you will see. It;s not hard to find examples. However, there is just a deep hole there. I wonder if there was a plane at all then. 

 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 10:22 am

Where's the plane ?

They found pieces of the plane, dead bodies and the plane vanished....

If it were a missile then why wasn't it detected?
If it were a missile where is the plane?

Planes were flown into buildings that day but somehow our government got together and lied about this plane and the Pentagon?
And somehow they keep it a secret for 22 years?

Those are all valid points, but the other side also has valid points.
I think we will never know the whole story.

What is known and is fact is that one year prior to this some of the most powerful war *** in WASH DC
formed the Project For a New American Century and discussed that some of the middle east countries
with oil were thinking of nationalizing their oil OR selling it in gold only.  And that....
"""WE NEED A NEW PEARL HARBOR MOMENT""

And they got it in spades.  Sorry, but its very very curious
 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 10:52 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 10:52 am

Pentagon security cameras outside the building captured the plane crashing into the building. The plane is barely visible as it hits the building and an explosion erupts. The security camera footage was made public after a conservative group, Judicial Watch, filed a Freedom of Information request seeking it in December 2004.

The Associated Press reported on the footage released in 2006, saying that the plane can be seen as a “thin white blur” before it plows into the Pentagon at ground level. At the time, Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch told the AP that he hoped the video would end conspiracy theories that the U.S. government was involved in the attack.

On Sept. 11, 2001, the hijacked American Airlines plane struck the southwest side of the Pentagon about 9:45 a.m. after two other hijacked planes hit the World Trade Center towers. The Pentagon attack killed 125 people in the building and the 59 passengers and crew on board the airplane.

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Did you see that video? It was a joke. Nobody can make out what that was. 

Vegas » 24 Jul 2023, 10:29 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 10:29 am

My question is simple. Very simple. If you can answer it, then I will retract. 

Question: Where is the **** plane? 

Those pics that you see of plane parts were taken a couple days after the explosion. Look at the footage on that day. Where is the **** plane?

You won't get an answer from the true believers, they are wedded to the official propaganda story, it simply has to be true..

As Mark Twain said, it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

 


 

Why did GW Bush ignore warnings from his national security team and the military?

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 10:40 am

Yes...
Why don't you check the photos of Flt 93....

And ask out loud....!

"I don't see a plane!.."

I already did, it's in my first post...

But I never bothered with the how and why of that one, the towers and the Pentagon were much more interesting, no one cares about an empty hole in the ground..


 
 

I choose to believe that my government loves me. They would never harm innocent civilians! I believe in MURICA.

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 10:55 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 10:55 am

These pics were taken a couple days after the incident. I am asking for pics of the plane on that day. At least the tail would be out somewhere. 
 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 9:50 am

If the question is fair he should produce a video showing a missile hitting the building....

Why would there be a video released from the government shooting a missile into the pentagon?

Neo » 24 Jul 2023, 9:53 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 9:53 am

911 as a false flag is far outside of the competency or capabilities of our government. They can kill a sex trafficker with dirt on political elites while he was in prison. They can make revenge for leaking documents to wikileaks look like a botched robbery. They cannot fake a terrorist attack involving 4 hijacked jetliners with literally billions of real time witnesses.

What witnesses saw these hijackers? Billions of witnesses saw planes fly into two towers, they saw no hijackers. That would be impossible. Pre-programming autopilot is a common thing. I recall pilots saying that technically pilots can just sit on their *** the whole flight, from take off to landing, and not do a damn thing. I see no reason how it couldn't be plausible that autopilot was preprogrammed to the established coordinates without the pilot's knowledge. Communication could easily be cut off as well. It seems quite easy. Much more plausible than ragheads, who barely had any flight time, and mostly learned from simulators, could take over a plane with box cutters, and fly them with precision. 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 11:33 am

There was none...
No missile was shot into the Pentagon...

Anyone making such a claim really needs to back it up with facts rather than just theories....

That day...
Numerous planes were hijacked...
We have video of terrorists getting on the planes...
"Something" flew into the Pentagon and pieces of an airplane were found...
Dead bodies were recovered and sent to Dover Base for identification...
Some of the bodies matched the people on the plane ..

And the people on the planes have never been heard from again...
And if it was a missile then where is the friggin plane?

Isn't that a good question?

If it WAS a missile what happened to the plane and why lie about it?

I can't decipher what you are getting at. However, your question about where is the plane is the same question I have. 

Jantje_Smit » 24 Jul 2023, 11:06 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 11:06 am

You won't get an answer from the true believers, they are wedded to the official propaganda story, it simply has to be true..

As Mark Twain said, it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

True. However, Kobia is pretty level headed. There is hope for him.

Heres the real deal

19 goat **** camel jockeys from Saudi Arabia came to the US and took pilot training in Florida. Their classes were paid for by the CIA, who funneled money to Mohammed Atta thru Pakistani intel agencies.

The CIA was only trying to help these immigrants get marketable skills to prosper in the US. Thats why they went to the same Miami flight school where CIA used to land planes filled with cocaine to cause the crack epidemic in the 1980s.

After recieving training, these young Muslims were prepared to go to work. But they had trouble finding gainful employment as pilots, because they skipped the day of training that teaches how to safely LAND A PLANE.

With no job prospects, these ambitious young pilots sought to prove their skills by hijacking 4 planes However, they were so inept, that once they took over the cockpit , they accidentally crashed into various buildings which caused them to explode.

Now, some people make a big deal of it because thousands of planes have crashed into thousands of buildings throughout history, and the buildings burned, but THEY NEVER COLLAPSED AND THEY NEVER WILL AGAIN.

I think there was an enchantment over the country that day, somehow the laws of physics were temporarily altered. Thats the magic of AMERICA.
 
 
 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 11:25 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 11:25 am

You claim Clinton had these terrorists under surviellence....
Why didn't he?

They had not broken any laws yet .......had GW continued the surveillance he could have intervened however 
he apparently thought these terrorists were of no concern thus he dropped the tax dollar support that covered 
the surveillance = yes the president must approve these matters. Could be he was not fully aware of his duties yet.......................... he was a green horn about then.

 

Why would the buildings fall anywhere but straight down? If you drop an apple from a tree, is it going to levitate sideways and end up under the next tree?
The massive weight of the concrete floors and interior contents would follow the laws of gravity....not to mention the steel framing that enveloped the exterior of the structure directing the material in a straight path to the ground, floor after floor.