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Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 12:31 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 12:31 pm

What laws did these men break when they boarded the planes that am?

Before praising Allah and crashing an airliner into the buildings, they managed to spend some time in strip clubs. I find that rather humorous,  though there was nothing funny about the deaths of innocent people and the family's grief.

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 12:31 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 12:31 pm

What laws did these men break when they boarded the planes that am? 

they had tickets to ride ......  Why did the GW admin ignore warnings?
 

 

The Pre-9/11 Warnings Bush’s Team Ignored Were Way More Intense Than We ThoughtBY JEREMY STAHL
NOV 13, 20151:25 PM


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... eveal.html
 
 
 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 11:46 am

I'm looking at what we know and the evidence....

And it's very clear there's a plane missing on that day and people that died on the plane were found at the Pentagon....
Along with plane wreckage ....

But because there's not a perfect video of the plane crashing we're being led to believe it was a missile...??

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It would make more sense. The hole in the pentagon looks like a missile could have done that, not a 747, it was too small. The bodies found could be the staff.

RebelGator » 24 Jul 2023, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 12:37 pm

Before praising Allah and crashing an airliner into the buildings, they managed to spend some time in strip clubs. I find that rather humorous,  though there was nothing funny about the deaths of innocent people and the family's grief.

Allah won't like that

I'm guessing their 76 virgins are gonna be guys

 

Vegas » 24 Jul 2023, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 10:46 am

There were no terrorists. **** box cutters? Seriously? No. There were no 19 hijackers. Tell me which theory seems more plausible:

Theory A: The pilots and passengers load the plane like any other day. They take off like any other day. Nothing unusual, it happens everyday. When in the air, the autopilot tech gets hacked. Autopilot tech can be pre-programmed. Once hacked, the pilots are locked out and are cut off from ground control. The autopilot tech had the coordinates programmed already. The pilots were helpless. No ability to control the plane nor communicate. The planes flew into the buildings. 

Theory B:   19  ragheads with box cutters, who were amateur pilots that barely had any flight time, were mostly trained on simulations, had the expertise to fly 747s with precision, into the twin towers causing the towers to collapse exactly like a demolition, not to mention magically making another building collapse, like a demolition, that they never hit.

        Theory A.... I'm really at a loss how you are unaware of the existence of, or simply deny the validity of the many recorded calls from passengers, and flight attendants that were made to loved ones and others from those Airplanes after they were violently hijacked by the terrorists... There are scores of them available, both via posted video, or written transcript which are available online.... These witnesses describe other passengers & crew being stabbed by the Terrorists as the planes are taken over... There's also recordings of one of the Hijackers piloting Flight 11 Mohammed Atta warning the passengers to remain still .... Below are just a few of these recordings.....  

       Theory B.... See my reply to Theory A. 
You're the one that asked to be convinced otherwise that 9/11 was not an inside job.... You're insisting there were no Al Qaeda Terrorists armed with Box Cutters, when overwhelming evidence proves in fact there were.... A "Theory" is something based on what you think -- it is not necessarily based on what is hard evidence... I'm really not intending to be insulting, but you'd have been more accurate titling your Thread nothing could ever change your belief or convince you otherwise that 9/11 was not an inside job, instead of inviting other people to try... 

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4nNhTQt5EM

         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m9_HVdIeQM

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oswEHFUI1Ok

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gulhkfAjTko

       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RM5HM37CwI&t=12s

 
 

Vegas » 24 Jul 2023, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 12:40 pm

It would make more sense. The hole in the pentagon looks like a missile could have done that, not a 747, it was too small. The bodies found could be the staff.

The wings would have folded back along the fuselage before the paint was even damaged on the building. Now it's the size of your missile.

razoo » 24 Jul 2023, 12:39 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 12:39 pm

The Pre-9/11 Warnings Bush’s Team Ignored Were Way More Intense Than We ThoughtBY JEREMY STAHL
NOV 13, 20151:25 PM

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... eveal.html

 

This is when George W. Bush learned that the U.S. was under attack, but way after his White House learned an attack was likely to happen.

The threat warnings that George W. Bush’s White House received—and reportedly brushed off—prior to the 9/11 terrorist attacks were more dire than previously known, Politico reported on Thursday.


In a blockbuster account by Chris Whipple, based on interviews he did for a Showtimedocumentary, former chief of the CIA’s counterterrorism center Cofer Black and former CIA director George Tenet described how they spent the months leading up to 9/11 trying to warn the White House that a spectacular attack was imminent and that the country needed to take urgent action, but to no avail.


Here’s how Politico describes part of the account: 

The drama of failed warnings began when Tenet and Black pitched a plan, in the spring of 2001, called “the Blue Sky paper” to Bush’s new national security team. It called for a covert CIA and military campaign to end the Al Qaeda threat—“getting into the Afghan sanctuary, launching a paramilitary operation, creating a bridge with Uzbekistan.” “And the word back,” says Tenet, “‘was ‘we’re not quite ready to consider this. We don’t want the clock to start ticking.’” (Translation: they did not want a paper trail to show that they’d been warned.)

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... eveal.html
 
 

Vegas » 24 Jul 2023, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 11:33 am

What witnesses saw these hijackers? Billions of witnesses saw planes fly into two towers, they saw no hijackers. That would be impossible. Pre-programming autopilot is a common thing. I recall pilots saying that technically pilots can just sit on their *** the whole flight, from take off to landing, and not do a damn thing. I see no reason how it couldn't be plausible that autopilot was preprogrammed to the established coordinates without the pilot's knowledge. Communication could easily be cut off as well. It seems quite easy. Much more plausible than ragheads, who barely had any flight time, and mostly learned from simulators, could take over a plane with box cutters, and fly them with precision.

I am a licensed pilot.  Yes autopilot makes 99.95% of flights routine to the level of boring. Yes theoretically the planes could have been programmed to fly into the buildings. When a plane has an unexpected flight change mid course the crew would be contacting atc and disabling the autopilot in pretty short order. Finding the autopilot locked they would take failsafe measures to manually disable it. All while screaming to air traffic control. None of that occurred. 

Dozens of passengers called home and described middle eastern men with box cutters. Deep fakes? Crisis actors? 
 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 12:47 pm

Correct...
Tenet warned Clinton for months and minths

is that so ................clinton had these terrorists under surveillance ........... the terrorists did not make a move under clinton.......they did under GW. GW screwed up .............  just as he did when the second home loan scam
hit the USA.  GW is a **** up .......


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... eveal.html
 

ZO9 you ask a lot of stupid questions ........

GW has these **** up's to his name:

1. 9/11

2. 2008 home loan scam

3. Iraq war = https://apjjf.org/-William-E.-Odom/2335/article.html

4. the 2008 USA economy on the rocks
 

RebelGator » 22 Jul 2023, 1:53 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 1:53 pm

I found it plausible that one floor collapsing on another would cause an increasing domino effect. The floors would fall straight down to the bottom.
I also find it plausible the Pennsylvania crash was caused by a missile strike (shot down).

What could be more plausible than conspiracy dimwits still dreaming 9/11 theories twenty plus years later?

razoo » 24 Jul 2023, 12:52 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 12:52 pm

is that so ................clinton had these terrorists under surveillance ........... the terrorists did not make a move under clinton.......they did under GW. GW screwed up .............  just as he did when the second home loan scam
hit the USA.  GW is a **** up .......

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... eveal.html

        You're dead wrong.... They made several moves under Clinton, including numerous attacks targeting US people or American interests.. 
The same Terrorist Organization Al Qaeda that attacked us on 9/11,  also attacked the same target (the World Trade Center) in 1993 under Clinton.... The Khobar Towers complex housing  US Military personnel in Saudi Arabia was attacked with a massive car bomb by Al Qaeda in 1996 under Clinton, killing 19 US Airmen... The US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were attacked by Al Qaeda under Clinton in 1998 killing 214, and injuring over 5000.. 

Vegas » 24 Jul 2023, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 12:40 pm

It would make more sense. The hole in the pentagon looks like a missile could have done that, not a 747, it was too small. The bodies found could be the staff.

Flight 77 wasn't a 747.

Kobia2 » 24 Jul 2023, 1:11 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 1:11 pm

        You're dead wrong.... They made several moves under Clinton, including numerous attacks targeting US people or American interests.. 
The same Terrorist Organization Al Qaeda that attacked us on 9/11,  also attacked the same target (the World Trade Center) in 1993 under Clinton.... The Khobar Towers complex housing  US Military personnel in Saudi Arabia was attacked with a massive car bomb by Al Qaeda in 1996 under Clinton, killing 19 US Airmen... The US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were attacked by Al Qaeda under Clinton in 1998 killing 214, and injuring over 5000.. 

says who........ BTW the topic here is 9/11/01............................ that's all I have been addressing. The Saudi Arabian 9/11 terrorists had a free ride under Bush BECAUSE who knows why he ignored the warnings what came to be 9/11/01. Bin Laden family and GHW Bush family socialized .................

 The 9/11 terrorists were not Al Qaeda or the Taliban. THE 9/11/01 TERRORISTS " didn't make a move under Clinton"..

Clinton could not bust the 9/11 terrorists because they had yet to commit a crime. Even criminals have rights.....
Trump is the prime example.


FYI:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/terror/

 
 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 2:58 pm

We were attacked numerous times under Clinton you God Damn idiot
 

Remember this like nobody ever told you before, Intellectual humans created the humanities to silence instinctive awareness while actually evolving in real time genetics eternally separate ancestors occupying space now.

My point is statistical averaging space time historically in current events repeats the same corruption techniques added since dawn of civilization started using language as psychological class warfare between generation gaps.

You know that thing that delivers each ancestor since inception to conceiving one's replacement or not that compounds DNA results to never duplicating a previous lifetime left alive here.

So your reality is as corrupted as any other governing people like typecast contextual roles on a world stage demanding to allow stereotyping each other as human rights to believe anything is possible just to ignore the one thing that never happens here.

Evolving exceeds adapting to space timed apart now. Never has, never will. That is the great intellectual secret of all time. Instinctive brain naturally navigates around it without a word.

razoo » 24 Jul 2023, 2:53 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 2:53 pm

says who........ BTW the topic here is 9/11/01............................ that's all I have been addressing. The Saudi Arabian 9/11 terrorists had a free ride under Bush BECAUSE who knows why he ignored the warnings what came to be 9/11/01. Bin Laden family and GHW Bush family socialized .................

 The 9/11 terrorists were not Al Qaeda or the Taliban. THE 9/11/01 TERRORISTS " didn't make a move under Clinton"..

Clinton could not bust the 9/11 terrorists because they had yet to commit a crime. Even criminals have rights.....
Trump is the prime example.

FYI:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/terror/

        All of the logistics, planning and and most of the training for the 9/11 attacks happened while Bill Clinton was in Office... Do I blame Clinton for the attack?---No... Where I do fault Clinton is that he was very mistaken to view Islamic Terrorism against US interests & personnel  as a Justice Department / Legal issue, rather than the Geo-Political Military one that it was..... 

        

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 5:24 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 5:24 pm

After being attacked numerous times while Clinton was in office I think we should have taken a different approach....

It was obvious these terrorists weren't going away...

      Agreed...
especially after Bin Laden publicly announced his organization's Jihad against the United States in 1996, which was a declaration of war.. ...