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Just months before 911

The Project For A New American Century wrote:

We need a new Pearl Harbor moment.

Google it....very curious

TPNAC was conglomeration of D & R Neocons.

Neo » 22 Jul 2023, 6:44 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 6:44 pm

OK Alex Jones, were the passengers that called home crisis actors? Were the pilots and air traffic control involved in the plot? Occums Razor, simplest answer is generally the correct answer.

WTC7 fell in full free fall...like a demolition. Not hit by a plane.
The Project For a New American Century wrote months before 911 (PFANAC a neocon ***)
""we need a new Pearl Harbor moment""


So, according to Ocuums Razor...seems at least plausible
 

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 7:39 pm

Im not saying I know what happened.
BUT it looks exactly like a demolition of a building. Perfect free fall.  From just fire?

In the history of true modern steel and glass buildings, until 9-11 none had suffered such intense fires.

You can comprise steel using your kitchen stove burners.  It really does not require all that much heat to get steel girders up over a thousand  degrees or so, and after a period they’ll snap.

When one snaps, they all snap, and the building pan cakes straight down.
 

Bruce » 22 Jul 2023, 7:46 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 7:46 pm

In the history of true modern steel and glass buildings, until 9-11 none had suffered such intense fires.

You can comprise steel using your kitchen stove burners.  It really does not require all that much heat to get steel girders up over a thousand  degrees or so, and after a period they’ll snap.

When one snaps, they all snap, and the building pan cakes straight down.

It was a fire like 1000s of other fires....

wtc7 was not hit with a plane with jet fuel

sorry Sparky, you **** yer pants again  
 

Vegas » 22 Jul 2023, 4:20 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 4:20 pm

Watch. He will blame the GOP. He always blames the GOP for everything...and I mean everything.

I get so tired of these **** people that pick a party to blame as if they know special information.

If the GOP did it, what is the benefit to the party?
What specific damage was caused to the Dems?
**** morons can't articulate a motive...

Likewise, a motive for the diaperheads wanting to attack us anyway possible.
That is way more plausible than "Republicans" for ****...

Deepstate/globalists/creepy-rich living above political ambitions.
Also, plausible as hell. Probably the most . . .

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 7:49 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 7:49 pm

It was a fire like 1000s of other fires....

wtc7 was not hit with a plane with jet fuel

sorry Sparky, you **** yer pants again

You saw WTC 7 fall

Five hours of raging fires compromised the steel.

Those fires started in WTC 7 because it was so close the the Twin Towers.

Until I understood that modern steel and glass buildings will pan cake straight down when any structural beam snaps, I agree that looked like a controlled demolition,



For proof, look at WTC 7.  Rudy Guallni had to be evacuated.  It was only heat, that took it down.

Bruce » 22 Jul 2023, 7:58 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 7:58 pm

You saw WTC 7 fall

Five hours of raging fires compromised the steel.

Those fires started in WTC 7 because it was so close the the Twin Towers.

Until I understood that modern steel and glass buildings will pan cake straight down when any structural beam snaps, I agree that looked like a controlled demolition,

For proof, look at WTC 7.  Rudy Guallni had to be evacuated.  It was only heat, that took it down.

blah blah blah...CUCK

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 7:46 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 7:46 pm

WTC7 fell in full free fall...like a demolition. Not hit by a plane.
The Project For a New American Century wrote months before 911 (PFANAC a neocon ***)
""we need a new Pearl Harbor moment""

So, according to Ocuums Razor...seems at least plausible

Catastrophic structure failure from a fire that burned for 8 hours. Buildings will fall into their own footprint unless there is resistance strong enough to resist gravity. 
 

Neo » 22 Jul 2023, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 8:17 pm

Catastrophic structure failure from a fire that burned for 8 hours. Buildings will fall into their own footprint unless there is resistance strong enough to resist gravity.

Actually its highly unusual for that to happen.  
 

Vegas » 22 Jul 2023, 4:04 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 4:04 pm

Here is my theory:

Planes have had autopilot technology for decades. Plug in the directional coordinates and a pilot literally doesn't even have to fly the plane. They just sit there and make sure all is good. Therefore, it is more plausible that there were no 19 rag headed hijackers. The planes were pre-programmed without the pilot's knowledge. The system was over-rid. Communication to the control tower was also cut off. The planes were locked on autopilot with the twin tower coordinates and wherever the third plane was supposed to go. Maybe the pilots heard what was happening and found a way to crash it. There was no fourth plane, that was a missile that hit the pentagon.

The twin towers falling was a demolition, as well as the other building that wasn't even hit.

   So, your theory is that American Airlines Boeing 757 Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon?.... Is it your theory that this Plane magically vanished instead of crashing into the Pentagon --- or that the Plane, it's Passengers & Crew simply never existed?... In either case can you explain how all but 4 of the charred sets of remains and body parts inside the Pentagon from Flight 77 were identified as the Passengers & Crew through DNA by samples provided from the victims families?.... The bodies of the 4 Hijackers were determined by process of elimination since no DNA samples were collected from their Family members.. I would be interested to hear your "theory" on this --- as I imagine so might some of the family members of those on Flight 77.. 

  Here's the Passenger & Crew List for Flight 77.... Keep in mind, one of the Passengers was the well known Conservative News Pundit & Author, who regularly appeared on FOX, CNN, C SPAN etc...  Barbara Olsen.... Her remains were also identified at the crash site through DNA... 

https://archive.boston.com/news/package ... ight77.htm

   

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 8:21 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 8:21 pm

Actually its highly unusual for that to happen.

For a building to topple it needs lateral force. Something like an earthquake or tsunami or a load bearing wall to remain standing. 
 

Neo » 22 Jul 2023, 8:48 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 8:48 pm

For a building to topple it needs lateral force. Something like an earthquake or tsunami or a load bearing wall to remain standing.

'''''we need a new Pearl Harbor moment''''   sorry, its simply curious
 

                 Can any of the 9/11 Inside Job 'Theorists" explain how a Building that had people & security personnel working in it 24/7 would not notice the Demo Crew and machinery required for the massive undertaking of preparing those Buildings for a controlled Implosion ---- which would have included a roaring symphony of Saws, Jackhammers, etc to remove walls to access and weaken the Building's Support Columns?...  
 

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 8:21 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 8:21 pm

Actually its highly unusual for that to happen.

Unless I’m mistaken it’s never happened except on 9-11.

Here’s why.

Huge steel and glass towers are only put up in dense metro areas where there are incredible fire departments.

Are there fires in the towers?

Probably very common. Here comes the fire department and puts out the fire.

But only on 9-11, there’s two jet liners almost full of fuel hit two huge towers way high up, the fires implode both, then all the twin towers become huge bon fires which feed WTC 7 until it becomes an inferno, and it pan cakes.

The worst sneak attack since Pearl Harbor overwhelmed the fire fighters.

I don’t know that’s ever happened before or since 9-11

 

Kobia2 » 22 Jul 2023, 8:57 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 8:57 pm

                 Can any of the 9/11 Inside Job 'Theorists" explain how a Building that had people & security personnel working in it 24/7 would not notice the Demo Crew and machinery required for the massive undertaking of preparing those Buildings for a controlled Implosion ---- which would have included a roaring symphony of Saws, Jackhammers, etc to remove walls to access and weaken the Building's Support Columns?...  

Its simply odd that wtc7, not hit by a plane, fell in complete perfect free fall.....from just fire.  Its curious

Bruce » 22 Jul 2023, 9:01 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:01 pm

Unless I’m mistaken it’s never happened except on 9-11.

Here’s why.

Huge steel and glass towers are only put up in dense metro areas where there are incredible fire departments.

Are there fires in the towers?

Probably very common. Here comes the fire department and puts out the fire.

But only on 9-11, there’s two jet liners almost full of fuel hit two huge towers way high up, the fires implode both, then all the twin towers become huge bon fires which feed WTC 7 until it becomes an inferno, and it pan cakes.

The worst sneak attack since Pearl Harbor overwhelmed the fire fighters.

I don’t know that’s ever happened before or since 9-11

awwww lil guy,

in inferno...

INFERNO? 

HAHAHA










 


 

'''''''we NEED a new Pearl Harbor moment"""

Gen Wesley Clark....

https://youtu.be/6Knt3rKTqCk

              Can any of the 9/11 "Inside Job" theorists explain how all the credible witnesses who saw the American Airlines Boeing 757 Flight 77 hit the Pentagon were all mistaken or lying?... 

          https://www.wctv.tv/2021/09/07/i-was-as ... tagon-911/ 
  ‘I was astounded’: U.S. Marshal describes seeing plane crash into the Pentagon on 9/11     

       https://www.cbsnews.com/news/september- ... witnesses/Three witnesses to the September 11 attack at the Pentagon tell their stories

        https://iangoddard.com/pentagon_witnesses.htm

   Flight 77 Eyewitnessesat the Pentagon on 911 ELAINE McCUSKER: "Traffic is normally slow right around the Pentagon [...]. I don't know what made me look up, but I did and I saw a very low-flying American Airlines plane that seemed to be accelerating. My first thought was just 'No, no, no, no,' because it was obvious the plane [...] was going to crash."MIKE WALTER: "I saw this plane, a jet, an American Airline's jet [...it] slammed right into the Pentagon."OMAR CAMPO: "It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane. I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire."RYAN JAMES: "When I looked up on my left [...] I see an American Airline plane. A silver plane. I can see 'AA' on the tail. I noticed that the landing gear were up. [...then] he hit full gas [...] and went straight in [to the Pentagon ...] I recognized it immediately as a passenger plane."JAMES CISSELL: "Out of my peripheral vision I saw this plane coming in and it was low - and getting lower. I thought, 'This isn't really happening. That is a big plane.' Then I saw the faces of some of the passengers on board."STEVE RISKUS: "I took these pictures seconds after the plane hit the pentagon. I was traveling on route 27 towards 395 when the plane crossed my path from the right about 100ft in front of me and crashed into the pentagon."
                                     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boAfbXhvSUo
 
 

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 9:06 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:06 pm

awwww lil guy,

in inferno...

INFERNO? 

HAHAHA

The inferno was at the bottom of WTC-7

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On September 11, 2001, the structure was substantially damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower of the World Trade Center collapsed. The debris ignited fires on multiple lower floors of the building, which continued to burn uncontrolled throughout the afternoon. The building's internal fire suppression system lacked water pressure to fight the fires. The collapse began when a critical internal column buckled and triggered cascading failure of nearby columns throughout, which was first visible from the exterior with the crumbling of a rooftop penthouse structure at 5:20:33 pm. This initiated progressive collapse of the entire building at 5:21:10 pm, according to FEMA,[5]: 23  while the 2008 NIST study placed the final collapse time at 5:20:52 pm.[6]: 19, 21, 50–51  The collapse made the old 7 World Trade Center the first steel skyscraper known to have collapsed primarily due to uncontrolled fires.[7][8]

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Yes, it looked odd.

But it’s the first and maybe the last steel and glass tower to pan cake due to structural failure of the steel from only heat.

The Twin Towers got smacked by two huge planes, plus lots of heat.
 

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 9:06 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:06 pm

awwww lil guy,

in inferno...

INFERNO? 

HAHAHA

now is that the third building? There was a third one right?
I've only heard there was. But never saw a pic of that on the tv. Which i thought suspicious.